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  • G E Mayers
    Ok,. I was wondering if Harsh gave any reasons for why Doubleday continued west rather than south? Yr. Obt. Svt. G E Gerry Mayers To Be A Virginian, either
    Message 1 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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      Ok,. I was wondering if Harsh gave any reasons for why Doubleday
      continued west rather than south?

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
      passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
      God. --Anonymous
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports


      > Gerry,
      >
      > Harsh explains the westward movements of I Corps on page 351. Here
      > are two excerpts pertaining to this topic:
      >
      > "....Meade turned left into the open country, but the contours of
      > the ground carried him southwest, rather than south, and the lead
      > brigade under Truman Seymour eventually struck the Smoketown Road".
      >
      > "Instead of turning left and filling the interval to the creek,
      > Doubleday's division continued westward."
      >
      > Tom Shay
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: G E Mayers
      > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:41 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      >
      >
      > Tom;
      >
      > I will. Any reason for why Doubleday went west rather than south,
      > if
      > Hooker wanted him to advance on the Potomac side of the Hagerstown
      > Turnpike toward the Dunkard Church?
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union,
      > a
      > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
      > Almighty
      > God. --Anonymous
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@...>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:02 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      >
      > > Gerry,
      > > I would encourage you to read the cited TAF pages in this matter.
      > I
      > > didn't check the footnotes for his sources. Admittedly, Harsh's
      > > theory as to Mac's original intentions certainly was one I hadn't
      > > recall seeing proposed by others. He also goes on to describe how
      > > the plan went afoul when Doubleday moved westward rather than
      > > southward.
      > >
      > > Tom Shay
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Harry Smeltzer
      > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:31 PM
      > > Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      > >
      > >
      > > I think Steve already posted the August description, Gerry. And
      > it
      > > does not
      > > jive with what Tom posted.
      > >
      > > Harry
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
      > > Behalf Of G E Mayers
      > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:27 PM
      > > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      > >
      > > Was that the actual original plan or what Mac wrote in August
      > 1863,
      > > when he was trying to defend himself against charges of mis
      > > management
      > > of the AoP during the battle?
      > >
      > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > >
      > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      > on
      > > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      > Union,
      > > a
      > > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
      > > Almighty
      > > God. --Anonymous
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@comcast.
      > > <mailto:RoteBaron%40comcast.net> net>
      > > To: <TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:05 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      > >
      > > > Here are some excerpts from TAF that corroborate what I had
      > > stated
      > > > about Mac's plan:
      > > >
      > > > Pages 347-348:
      > > > "The opening attack would not continue westward after crossing
      > > the
      > > > Antietam to discover the end of the Confederate line
      > approaching
      > > the
      > > > river. Instead, it would bear to its own left (east), keeping
      > > near
      > > > the creek and aim for the end of the heights at the point where
      > > > Lee's line turned west in front of the Piper farm. Thus,
      > > McClellan's
      > > > object on the left was the hinge in the Confederate line, where
      > > D.H.
      > > > Hill's division bent from facing the Antietam and ran westward
      > to
      > > > join the Hagerstown Pike."
      > > >
      > > > Tom Shay
      > > >
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    • Stephen Recker
      I think this is amazing. It sure isn t talked about much. Stephen
      Message 35 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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        I think this is amazing. It sure isn't talked about much.

        Stephen

        On Thursday, February 1, 2007, at 08:54 PM, Tom Shay wrote:

        > Harsh explains the westward movements of I Corps on page 351. Here are
        > two excerpts pertaining to this topic:
        >
        > "....Meade turned left into the open country, but the contours of the
        > ground carried him southwest, rather than south, and the lead brigade
        > under Truman Seymour eventually struck the Smoketown Road".
        >
        > "Instead of turning left and filling the interval to the creek,
        > Doubleday's division continued westward."
        >
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