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  • Harry Smeltzer
    I think the rebels had something to do with it. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of G E Mayers Sent:
    Message 1 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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      I think the rebels had something to do with it.



      -----Original Message-----
      From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of G E Mayers
      Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:41 PM
      To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports



      Tom;

      I will. Any reason for why Doubleday went west rather than south, if
      Hooker wanted him to advance on the Potomac side of the Hagerstown
      Turnpike toward the Dunkard Church?

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@comcast. <mailto:RoteBaron%40comcast.net> net>
      To: <TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports

      > Gerry,
      > I would encourage you to read the cited TAF pages in this matter. I
      > didn't check the footnotes for his sources. Admittedly, Harsh's
      > theory as to Mac's original intentions certainly was one I hadn't
      > recall seeing proposed by others. He also goes on to describe how
      > the plan went afoul when Doubleday moved westward rather than
      > southward.
      >
      > Tom Shay
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Harry Smeltzer
      > To: TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:31 PM
      > Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      >
      >
      > I think Steve already posted the August description, Gerry. And it
      > does not
      > jive with what Tom posted.
      >
      > Harry
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
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      > [mailto:TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of G E Mayers
      > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:27 PM
      > To: TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      >
      > Was that the actual original plan or what Mac wrote in August 1863,
      > when he was trying to defend himself against charges of mis
      > management
      > of the AoP during the battle?
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union,
      > a
      > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
      > Almighty
      > God. --Anonymous
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@comcast.
      > <mailto:RoteBaron%40comcast.net> net>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:05 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan's after action reports
      >
      > > Here are some excerpts from TAF that corroborate what I had
      > stated
      > > about Mac's plan:
      > >
      > > Pages 347-348:
      > > "The opening attack would not continue westward after crossing
      > the
      > > Antietam to discover the end of the Confederate line approaching
      > the
      > > river. Instead, it would bear to its own left (east), keeping
      > near
      > > the creek and aim for the end of the heights at the point where
      > > Lee's line turned west in front of the Piper farm. Thus,
      > McClellan's
      > > object on the left was the hinge in the Confederate line, where
      > D.H.
      > > Hill's division bent from facing the Antietam and ran westward to
      > > join the Hagerstown Pike."
      > >
      > > Tom Shay
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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    • Stephen Recker
      I think this is amazing. It sure isn t talked about much. Stephen
      Message 35 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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        I think this is amazing. It sure isn't talked about much.

        Stephen

        On Thursday, February 1, 2007, at 08:54 PM, Tom Shay wrote:

        > Harsh explains the westward movements of I Corps on page 351. Here are
        > two excerpts pertaining to this topic:
        >
        > "....Meade turned left into the open country, but the contours of the
        > ground carried him southwest, rather than south, and the lead brigade
        > under Truman Seymour eventually struck the Smoketown Road".
        >
        > "Instead of turning left and filling the interval to the creek,
        > Doubleday's division continued westward."
        >
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