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  • Harry Smeltzer
    I think Richard may have combined two or more meetings into one. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of G E
    Message 1 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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      I think Richard may have combined two or more meetings into one.



      -----Original Message-----
      From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of G E Mayers
      Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:50 AM
      To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: Richardson was son of Israel Putnam?



      Dear Tom,

      I was using the nickname from The Movie as a shortcut instead of
      typing out the entire name.....but like you, do not know if he was
      actually referred to as that.

      The moniker "Superb" was indeed given to Hancock after the Battle of
      Williamsburg by Little Mac........

      As to the September 16th bogus story, it is news to me. As to the
      other, I only know that he was in that meeting with Franklin, Sumner
      and Mac about continuing the momentum Richardson had gained until his
      unfortunate wounding.

      Hope this all helps!

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
      passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
      God. --Anonymous
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@hagerstown
      <mailto:clemenst%40hagerstowncc.edu> cc.edu>
      To: <TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:25 PM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: Richardson was son of Israel Putnam?

      > Whoa Gerry and Richard, a few questions please.
      > First off, the nickname of Hancock as "Winnie Boy" is only found in
      > Maxwell's Gettysburg movie, not even in Shaara's novel. Are you
      > being
      > sarcastic, or do you truly believe that nickname was used for him?
      > Also, while he was a brigade commander in the Sixth Corps he may
      > have
      > witnessed the argument between Sumner and Franklin, and may have
      > been
      > there when McCllelan rode over to the East Woods to settle it, but I
      > find no record of him being anywheere near Porter and McClellan
      > during
      > their conversation about sending in the Fifth Corps. How do you
      > know
      > this happened?
      > And McCllean did not call Hancock "superb" until after the fight at
      > Williamsburg, where Hancock demonstrated that trait.
      > BTW, the anecdote in Tucker's book about Hancock and a regimental
      > commander on the evening of Sept. 16 is bogus. Hancock spent the
      > night
      > ofthe 16th at Crampton's Gap, a loooong way from any cannon fire.
      > Tom Clemens
      >
      > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
      > Professor of History
      > Hagerstown Community College
      >
      >
      >>>> <richard@rcroker. <mailto:richard%40rcroker.com> com> 01/31/07 7:43 PM
      >>>
      > There was a fondness there. It was Mac who dubbed Winnie Boy "The
      > Supurb" before he had ever seen his first fight.
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: G E Mayers
      > To: TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:30 AM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: Richardson was son of Israel
      > Putnam?
      >
      >
      > Richard,
      >
      > You are absolutely correct. And if you really want to know, that
      > action by Mac to place Winnie Boy in command of Richardson's
      > division
      > set him on the track towards his undying fame merited at
      > Gettysburg.
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union,
      > a
      > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
      > Almighty
      > God. --Anonymous
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: <richard@rcroker. <mailto:richard%40rcroker.com> com>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:29 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: Richardson was son of Israel
      > Putnam?
      >
      > >I believe Winfield Scott Hancock took over for Richardson and
      > >desperately wanted to push forward. He witnessed the conversation
      > >between Mac, Sumner, Franklin and (famously) Porter.
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Scott Mingus
      > > To: TalkAntietam@ <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:51 AM
      > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: Richardson was son of Israel Putnam?
      > >
      > >
      > > There are a number of period biographies of Putnam available on
      > the
      > > internet (published between 1818 and 1900). I scanned through a
      > > number
      > > of them, but find no direct connection between the Putnam family
      > > and
      > > the Richardsons, although, as Teej correctly stated, there are
      > > secondary sources that do claim a relationship, although I have
      > yet
      > > to
      > > see one that purports the actual lineage.
      > >
      > > Richardson's death seemed to "take the starch out" of the Federal
      > > attack around the Piper Farm. One wonders how different Antietam
      > > (and
      > > perhaps history) would have been if he had not been struck down?
      > >
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    • Stephen Recker
      I think this is amazing. It sure isn t talked about much. Stephen
      Message 35 of 35 , Feb 1, 2007
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        I think this is amazing. It sure isn't talked about much.

        Stephen

        On Thursday, February 1, 2007, at 08:54 PM, Tom Shay wrote:

        > Harsh explains the westward movements of I Corps on page 351. Here are
        > two excerpts pertaining to this topic:
        >
        > "....Meade turned left into the open country, but the contours of the
        > ground carried him southwest, rather than south, and the lead brigade
        > under Truman Seymour eventually struck the Smoketown Road".
        >
        > "Instead of turning left and filling the interval to the creek,
        > Doubleday's division continued westward."
        >
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