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  • RoteBaron@comcast.net
    I also have a clip of the firing in which one cannon misfired. I can post it later. Only anti-rally people were allowed onto Mumma Farm via Smoketown Road. The
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 12, 2006
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      I also have a clip of the firing in which one cannon misfired. I can post it later.

      Only anti-rally people were allowed onto Mumma Farm via Smoketown Road. The NPS police asked each person whether they were pro- and anti- rally. Anyone supporting the rally had to go to elsewhere to some designated spot, then they were brought in via white vans to the opposite side. I had to go thru a metal-detector and was required to stand in a specific marked-off area across from Mumma Barn. There was also a media-only area, which was between pro- and anti- areas. The press were there in force, solicitinging everyone for anyone quotes.

      On a nicer note, I was chatting with the NPS policeman, when I noticed via his badge id that it was Rory Moore, former ranger at Antietam. He's now at Gettysburg.

      Tom Shay

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      From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>

      > Tom,
      > I could download the video clips, they look great. Thank you. No
      > Gerry, I was wearing a Confederate uniform. In one of Tom's photos I
      > show up wearing a red cap and sky blue trousers, red sash.
      > Good to see you there Tom. I never went over to look at the KKK rally,
      > just decided not to let them count me as a supporter by showing up.
      >
      >
      > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
      > Professor of History
      > Hagerstown Community College
      >
      >
      > >>> RoteBaron@... 06/11/06 8:49 PM >>>
      > Gerry,
      >
      > The two short videos from Artillery Day are at:
      > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns1.avi
      > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns3.avi
      >
      > They are big files, so it may take you 2+ minutes to load each of them.
      > Someone please advise that they can access them.
      >
      > In addition to KKK, there were neo-Nazis and Anarchists at the rally.
      > Full
      > story at:
      > http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=140085&format=html
      >
      > I did get you the two brochures, which I will mail soon. There is no
      > special
      > handout for the SE corner of Cornfield you requested. but the Cornfield
      > brochure features a stop there.
      >
      > NPS does plan to make the brochures available (in color!) on their
      > website
      > as PDF files, but no date yet announced.
      >
      > I walked the entire length of the new AP Hill trail and it's even longer
      > than the route we used on recent ranger hikes. So anyone planning to
      > make
      > the hike is advised to be ready for a great but lengthy trek.
      >
      > Tom Shay
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "G E Mayers"
      > To:
      > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:45 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
      >
      >
      > > Dear Tom,
      > >
      > > For some reason the link to the two videos would not download via my
      > > browser. Is there any other link which can be accessed?
      > >
      > > Was Tom Clemens dressed in a ranger uniform for the artillery
      > > demonstration or no?
      > >
      > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > >
      > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      > > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
      > > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
      > > God. --Anonymous
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Tom Shay"
      > > To:
      > > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:25 AM
      > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
      > >
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      > > > Great day at Antietam today. I hiked the entire field and will post
      > > > more info later.
      > > >
      > > > Due to the KKK rally, there was a massive force of well over 200+
      > > > police and NPS manpower present throughout the day. A chopper
      > > > circled above during the afternoon, several horse units patrolled, a
      > > > Park Service Police high-tech command center vehicle was parked near
      > > > Mumma Farm, NPS personnel from many other parks assisted; MD state,
      > > > sheriff, and local police were everywhere, plus SWAT team was
      > > > present. Traffic on Smoketown Road and in Mumma Farm area was
      > > > prohibited all afternoon. The cost for all that law enforcement must
      > > > have been tremendous.
      > > >
      > > > The artillery demo was well-attended and provided the crowd with
      > > > excellent education in how a battery operates, the ordnance it
      > > > fires, and several live firings. I put some photos and 2 short
      > > > videos onto a webpage at:
      > > >
      > > > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/artillery.htm
      > > >
      > > > Tom Shay
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    • G E Mayers
      Dear Tom C; Ah, so you were an officer this time! Were you the battery commander for the purpose of the demonstrations? Finally saw the videos...took a very
      Message 2 of 9 , Jun 12, 2006
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        Dear Tom C;

        Ah, so you were an officer this time! Were you the battery commander
        for the purpose of the demonstrations?

        Finally saw the videos...took a very long while to download as I have
        dialup. But impressive!

        Yr. Obt. Svt.
        G E "Gerry" Mayers

        To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
        one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
        passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
        God. --Anonymous
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
        To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:53 AM
        Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10


        > Tom,
        > I could download the video clips, they look great. Thank you. No
        > Gerry, I was wearing a Confederate uniform. In one of Tom's photos
        > I
        > show up wearing a red cap and sky blue trousers, red sash.
        > Good to see you there Tom. I never went over to look at the KKK
        > rally,
        > just decided not to let them count me as a supporter by showing up.
        >
        >
        > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
        > Professor of History
        > Hagerstown Community College
        >
        >
        >>>> RoteBaron@... 06/11/06 8:49 PM >>>
        > Gerry,
        >
        > The two short videos from Artillery Day are at:
        > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns1.avi
        > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns3.avi
        >
        > They are big files, so it may take you 2+ minutes to load each of
        > them.
        > Someone please advise that they can access them.
        >
        > In addition to KKK, there were neo-Nazis and Anarchists at the
        > rally.
        > Full
        > story at:
        > http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=140085&format=html
        >
        > I did get you the two brochures, which I will mail soon. There is no
        > special
        > handout for the SE corner of Cornfield you requested. but the
        > Cornfield
        > brochure features a stop there.
        >
        > NPS does plan to make the brochures available (in color!) on their
        > website
        > as PDF files, but no date yet announced.
        >
        > I walked the entire length of the new AP Hill trail and it's even
        > longer
        > than the route we used on recent ranger hikes. So anyone planning to
        > make
        > the hike is advised to be ready for a great but lengthy trek.
        >
        > Tom Shay
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
        > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:45 PM
        > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
        >
        >
        >> Dear Tom,
        >>
        >> For some reason the link to the two videos would not download via
        >> my
        >> browser. Is there any other link which can be accessed?
        >>
        >> Was Tom Clemens dressed in a ranger uniform for the artillery
        >> demonstration or no?
        >>
        >> Yr. Obt. Svt.
        >> G E "Gerry" Mayers
        >>
        >> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
        >> one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union,
        >> a
        >> passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
        >> Almighty
        >> God. --Anonymous
        >> ----- Original Message -----
        >> From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@...>
        >> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        >> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:25 AM
        >> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
        >>
        >>
        >> > Great day at Antietam today. I hiked the entire field and will
        >> > post
        >> > more info later.
        >> >
        >> > Due to the KKK rally, there was a massive force of well over 200+
        >> > police and NPS manpower present throughout the day. A chopper
        >> > circled above during the afternoon, several horse units
        >> > patrolled, a
        >> > Park Service Police high-tech command center vehicle was parked
        >> > near
        >> > Mumma Farm, NPS personnel from many other parks assisted; MD
        >> > state,
        >> > sheriff, and local police were everywhere, plus SWAT team was
        >> > present. Traffic on Smoketown Road and in Mumma Farm area was
        >> > prohibited all afternoon. The cost for all that law enforcement
        >> > must
        >> > have been tremendous.
        >> >
        >> > The artillery demo was well-attended and provided the crowd with
        >> > excellent education in how a battery operates, the ordnance it
        >> > fires, and several live firings. I put some photos and 2 short
        >> > videos onto a webpage at:
        >> >
        >> > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/artillery.htm
        >> >
        >> > Tom Shay
        >> >
        >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >> >
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      • Thomas Clemens
        Gerry, We rotate. I narrated two programs, served as battery commander for one, and commanded the left section for two. Tom C. Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
        Message 3 of 9 , Jun 13, 2006
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          Gerry,
          We rotate. I narrated two programs, served as battery commander for
          one, and commanded the left section for two.
          Tom C.

          Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
          Professor of History
          Hagerstown Community College


          >>> gerry1952@... 06/12/06 4:20 PM >>>
          Dear Tom C;

          Ah, so you were an officer this time! Were you the battery commander
          for the purpose of the demonstrations?

          Finally saw the videos...took a very long while to download as I have
          dialup. But impressive!

          Yr. Obt. Svt.
          G E "Gerry" Mayers

          To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
          one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
          passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
          God. --Anonymous
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
          To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:53 AM
          Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10


          > Tom,
          > I could download the video clips, they look great. Thank you. No
          > Gerry, I was wearing a Confederate uniform. In one of Tom's photos
          > I
          > show up wearing a red cap and sky blue trousers, red sash.
          > Good to see you there Tom. I never went over to look at the KKK
          > rally,
          > just decided not to let them count me as a supporter by showing up.
          >
          >
          > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
          > Professor of History
          > Hagerstown Community College
          >
          >
          >>>> RoteBaron@... 06/11/06 8:49 PM >>>
          > Gerry,
          >
          > The two short videos from Artillery Day are at:
          > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns1.avi
          > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/guns3.avi
          >
          > They are big files, so it may take you 2+ minutes to load each of
          > them.
          > Someone please advise that they can access them.
          >
          > In addition to KKK, there were neo-Nazis and Anarchists at the
          > rally.
          > Full
          > story at:
          >
          http://www.herald-mail.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=140085&format=html
          >
          > I did get you the two brochures, which I will mail soon. There is no
          > special
          > handout for the SE corner of Cornfield you requested. but the
          > Cornfield
          > brochure features a stop there.
          >
          > NPS does plan to make the brochures available (in color!) on their
          > website
          > as PDF files, but no date yet announced.
          >
          > I walked the entire length of the new AP Hill trail and it's even
          > longer
          > than the route we used on recent ranger hikes. So anyone planning to
          > make
          > the hike is advised to be ready for a great but lengthy trek.
          >
          > Tom Shay
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
          > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:45 PM
          > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
          >
          >
          >> Dear Tom,
          >>
          >> For some reason the link to the two videos would not download via
          >> my
          >> browser. Is there any other link which can be accessed?
          >>
          >> Was Tom Clemens dressed in a ranger uniform for the artillery
          >> demonstration or no?
          >>
          >> Yr. Obt. Svt.
          >> G E "Gerry" Mayers
          >>
          >> To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
          >> one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union,
          >> a
          >> passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the
          >> Almighty
          >> God. --Anonymous
          >> ----- Original Message -----
          >> From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@...>
          >> To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
          >> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:25 AM
          >> Subject: [TalkAntietam] Trip report from Artillery Day June 10
          >>
          >>
          >> > Great day at Antietam today. I hiked the entire field and will
          >> > post
          >> > more info later.
          >> >
          >> > Due to the KKK rally, there was a massive force of well over 200+
          >> > police and NPS manpower present throughout the day. A chopper
          >> > circled above during the afternoon, several horse units
          >> > patrolled, a
          >> > Park Service Police high-tech command center vehicle was parked
          >> > near
          >> > Mumma Farm, NPS personnel from many other parks assisted; MD
          >> > state,
          >> > sheriff, and local police were everywhere, plus SWAT team was
          >> > present. Traffic on Smoketown Road and in Mumma Farm area was
          >> > prohibited all afternoon. The cost for all that law enforcement
          >> > must
          >> > have been tremendous.
          >> >
          >> > The artillery demo was well-attended and provided the crowd with
          >> > excellent education in how a battery operates, the ordnance it
          >> > fires, and several live firings. I put some photos and 2 short
          >> > videos onto a webpage at:
          >> >
          >> > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/artillery.htm
          >> >
          >> > Tom Shay
          >> >
          >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >> >
          >> >
          >> >
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          >> >
          >> >
          >> >
          >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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