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  • Tom Shay
    Gerry, Another spot that I visited on a ranger-led tour was the rock ledge where the12th Georgia left so many dead. Walker noticed they most of them did not
    Message 1 of 5 , May 19 6:50 PM
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      Gerry,

      Another spot that I visited on a ranger-led tour was the rock ledge where
      the12th Georgia left so many dead. Walker noticed they most of them did not
      advance when ordered, and discovered that every man who could go forward
      had. The remainder lay dead behind the ledge. I posted a clip from Carman
      map and excerpt from the manuscript that I hope can serve as focus for
      others to agree or dispute on the location of this ledge. The tick marks on
      the map denote rock outcroppings.

      http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/12ga.htm

      Tom Shay

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      From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:37 AM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites and
      question


      Dear Ron,

      Thank you for the excellent suggestion! I will make contact at ANBP
      with one of the rangers to arrange for a copy of that brochure to be
      sent.

      Is there also a brochure of the NW corner of the West Woods where
      Pelham had his artillery?

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
      one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
      passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
      God. --Anonymous
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      From: "dickeyr46" <dickeyr46@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:03 AM
      Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites and
      question


      > Gerry,
      >
      > The suggestion of the area around the Locher cabin and the Hauser
      > Ridge are excellent. Do not miss the NW portion of the West Woods
      > where the 1st Minn was greeted with Pelham's artillery as they
      > emeged
      > from the woods. This NW corner tree line appears to be fairly true
      > to
      > the Carmen-Cope maps.
      >
      > Here's a suggestion for another easy to get to spot... it is the
      > northeast corner of the Cornfield. If you get the NPS broucher "The
      > Cornfield Trail," this location is marked as stop 4. It is easily
      > reached by walking from Auto Tour Stop 4, north through the
      > Cornfield
      > using the trail, and then east along the northern Cornfield fence to
      > where the Cornfield meets the East Woods. This spot trully is a
      > location of "serenity and sacrifice." This spot is peaceful, with no
      > vehicle traffic and little foot traffic. Yet, this corner of the
      > Cornfield equaled or exceeded the violence of the western side where
      > Gibbons fought. From the initial passing of Duryea's brigade at 6
      > am,
      > to the attacks by Hay's Tigers, Hartsuff's men, and Law's Brigade,
      > the
      > stand by the Penn. Reserves, Ripley and Gordon facing each other,
      > and
      > finally Tyndale rolling up Colquitt's flank, this corner overlooked
      > 3
      > hours of back-and-forth sacrifice. This location is also neat in
      > that
      > most of the states had units in action in this vicinity. This corner
      > was described as "...dead men literally piled upon and across each
      > other" by one of Tyndale's regimental commanders. Of note is what
      > you
      > can't see from here... you can't see Miller's farm house, nor can
      > you
      > see the West Woods. This is a fantastic spot to appreciate how
      > restrictive the terrain could be.
      >
      > Well, that's a suggestion as a way to appreciate the Cornfield from
      > other than the "standard" read from Auto Stop 4.
      >
      > Ron Dickey
      >
      > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
      > wrote:
      >>
      >> Gang,
      >>
      >> In October (October 15th) I will be hosting a tour at Sharpsburg
      >> (Antietam) battlefield for the Civil War Discussion Group Fall 2006
      >> Muster. I realize some members of this board are also members of
      >> the
      >> other board.... but this is not a cross posting.
      >>
      >> I write with three main requests:
      >> 1. In addition to the remaining portion of the West Woods between
      >> the
      >> Philadelphia Brigade park and the SR 64 bypass, what other off the
      >> beaten path areas in the park are there in the area of the Morning
      >> Phases of the battle that can be visited with needing special
      >> permission to do so?
      >>
      >>
      >
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    • G E Mayers
      Tom, Thanks! Would you be willing to join the CWDG Fall Muster attendees at Sharpsburg on Sunday, October 15th, to lend your expertise? Yr. Obt. Svt. G E
      Message 2 of 5 , May 22 2:28 PM
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        Tom,

        Thanks! Would you be willing to join the CWDG Fall Muster attendees at
        Sharpsburg on Sunday, October 15th, to lend your expertise?

        Yr. Obt. Svt.
        G E "Gerry" Mayers

        To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
        one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
        passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
        God. --Anonymous
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Tom Shay" <RoteBaron@...>
        To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites


        > Gerry,
        >
        > Another spot that I visited on a ranger-led tour was the rock ledge
        > where
        > the12th Georgia left so many dead. Walker noticed they most of them
        > did not
        > advance when ordered, and discovered that every man who could go
        > forward
        > had. The remainder lay dead behind the ledge. I posted a clip from
        > Carman
        > map and excerpt from the manuscript that I hope can serve as focus
        > for
        > others to agree or dispute on the location of this ledge. The tick
        > marks on
        > the map denote rock outcroppings.
        >
        > http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/12ga.htm
        >
        > Tom Shay
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
        > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:37 AM
        > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites
        > and
        > question
        >
        >
        > Dear Ron,
        >
        > Thank you for the excellent suggestion! I will make contact at ANBP
        > with one of the rangers to arrange for a copy of that brochure to be
        > sent.
        >
        > Is there also a brochure of the NW corner of the West Woods where
        > Pelham had his artillery?
        >
        > Yr. Obt. Svt.
        > G E "Gerry" Mayers
        >
        > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
        > one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
        > passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
        > God. --Anonymous
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "dickeyr46" <dickeyr46@...>
        > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:03 AM
        > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites and
        > question
        >
        >
        >> Gerry,
        >>
        >> The suggestion of the area around the Locher cabin and the Hauser
        >> Ridge are excellent. Do not miss the NW portion of the West Woods
        >> where the 1st Minn was greeted with Pelham's artillery as they
        >> emeged
        >> from the woods. This NW corner tree line appears to be fairly true
        >> to
        >> the Carmen-Cope maps.
        >>
        >> Here's a suggestion for another easy to get to spot... it is the
        >> northeast corner of the Cornfield. If you get the NPS broucher "The
        >> Cornfield Trail," this location is marked as stop 4. It is easily
        >> reached by walking from Auto Tour Stop 4, north through the
        >> Cornfield
        >> using the trail, and then east along the northern Cornfield fence
        >> to
        >> where the Cornfield meets the East Woods. This spot trully is a
        >> location of "serenity and sacrifice." This spot is peaceful, with
        >> no
        >> vehicle traffic and little foot traffic. Yet, this corner of the
        >> Cornfield equaled or exceeded the violence of the western side
        >> where
        >> Gibbons fought. From the initial passing of Duryea's brigade at 6
        >> am,
        >> to the attacks by Hay's Tigers, Hartsuff's men, and Law's Brigade,
        >> the
        >> stand by the Penn. Reserves, Ripley and Gordon facing each other,
        >> and
        >> finally Tyndale rolling up Colquitt's flank, this corner overlooked
        >> 3
        >> hours of back-and-forth sacrifice. This location is also neat in
        >> that
        >> most of the states had units in action in this vicinity. This
        >> corner
        >> was described as "...dead men literally piled upon and across each
        >> other" by one of Tyndale's regimental commanders. Of note is what
        >> you
        >> can't see from here... you can't see Miller's farm house, nor can
        >> you
        >> see the West Woods. This is a fantastic spot to appreciate how
        >> restrictive the terrain could be.
        >>
        >> Well, that's a suggestion as a way to appreciate the Cornfield from
        >> other than the "standard" read from Auto Stop 4.
        >>
        >> Ron Dickey
        >>
        >> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...>
        >> wrote:
        >>>
        >>> Gang,
        >>>
        >>> In October (October 15th) I will be hosting a tour at Sharpsburg
        >>> (Antietam) battlefield for the Civil War Discussion Group Fall
        >>> 2006
        >>> Muster. I realize some members of this board are also members of
        >>> the
        >>> other board.... but this is not a cross posting.
        >>>
        >>> I write with three main requests:
        >>> 1. In addition to the remaining portion of the West Woods between
        >>> the
        >>> Philadelphia Brigade park and the SR 64 bypass, what other off the
        >>> beaten path areas in the park are there in the area of the Morning
        >>> Phases of the battle that can be visited with needing special
        >>> permission to do so?
        >>>
        >>>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> SPONSORED LINKS Civil war history Civil war battles Civil war
        >>
        >>
        >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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        >>
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        >>
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        >>
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        >
        >
        >
        >
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        >
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      • RoteBaron@comcast.net
        Message 3 of 5 , May 26 11:25 AM
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          <<Tom,

          Thanks! Would you be willing to join the CWDG Fall Muster attendees at
          Sharpsburg on Sunday, October 15th, to lend your expertise?
          Yr. Obt. Svt. G E "Gerry" Mayers>>

          Gerry,

          I'll certainly make it a point to keep that date open. I always enjoy stomping those fields.
          Is there any itinerary yet? How many attendees are you estimating?

          Tom Shay

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        • Stephen Recker
          Rededication Ceremony Planned for Maryland Monument at Antietam Governor’s Commission on Maryland Military Monuments will celebrate the $300,000 restoration
          Message 4 of 5 , May 26 6:36 PM
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            Rededication Ceremony Planned for Maryland Monument at Antietam
            Governor�s Commission on Maryland Military Monuments will celebrate the
            $300,000 restoration project

            ANNAPOLIS � On Saturday, June 3 Maryland historians, military veterans,
            and Civil War enthusiasts are welcome to attend the rededication of the
            Maryland Monument at Antietam National Battlefield in Sharpsburg,
            Maryland. The ceremony will honor the history of the 106 year-old
            monument and celebrate its recent renovation and repairs that reopened
            it to the public.

            WHO: ����������� Brian M. Thacker, Medal of Honor Recipient
            ����������������������� William Donald Schaefer, Comptroller of Maryland
            ����������������������� Major General Bruce Tuxill, Maryland National
            Guard Adjutant General
            ����������������������� Mary D. Kane, Secretary of State
            ����������������������� George Owings, Secretary of Veterans Affairs
            ����������������������� Senator Donald F. Munson, Maryland General
            Assembly
            ����������������������� Governor�s Commission on Maryland Military
            Monuments
            ����������������������� Maryland National Guard Band and Honor Guard
            ����������������������� A host of elected officials

            WHEN:����������Saturday, June 3, 2006
            ����������������������� 1:00 p.m. �������� Ceremony & Ribbon Cutting

            WHERE:�������Maryland Monument at Antietam
            ����������� ������������Antietam National Battlefield
            ����������� ������������Sharpsburg, Maryland 21782


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          • G E Mayers
            Dear Tom, Please go to the CWDG Online Forums and look for the Musters category. The MMFL, aka Allan Shikhvarg, is in charge of the Gettysburg Fall Muster each
            Message 5 of 5 , May 29 8:06 PM
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              Dear Tom,

              Please go to the CWDG Online Forums and look for the Musters category.
              The MMFL, aka Allan Shikhvarg, is in charge of the Gettysburg Fall
              Muster each year and has posted a schedule for the weekend in
              question.

              Seeing that you are also no slouch with Gettysburg, perhaps you might
              be interested??

              Yr. Obt. Svt.
              G E "Gerry" Mayers

              To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even on
              one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the Union, a
              passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from the Almighty
              God. --Anonymous
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: <RoteBaron@...>
              To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:25 PM
              Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Battlefield off beaten path sites


              > <<Tom,
              >
              > Thanks! Would you be willing to join the CWDG Fall Muster attendees
              > at
              > Sharpsburg on Sunday, October 15th, to lend your expertise?
              > Yr. Obt. Svt. G E "Gerry" Mayers>>
              >
              > Gerry,
              >
              > I'll certainly make it a point to keep that date open. I always
              > enjoy stomping those fields.
              > Is there any itinerary yet? How many attendees are you estimating?
              >
              > Tom Shay
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > SPONSORED LINKS Civil war history Civil war battles Civil war
              >
              >
              > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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              >
              > a.. Visit your group "TalkAntietam" on the web.
              >
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