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  • John Priest
    Dave: From what I can gather the cabin was on the property where the big horse farm is, west of the crossroad to Reno Monument Road and south of the toll house
    Message 1 of 6 , Jul 19, 2001
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      Dave:

      From what I can gather the cabin was on the property where the big horse
      farm is, west of the crossroad to Reno Monument Road and south of the toll
      house on the National Pike.

      Mike Priest


      -----Original Message-----
      From: David Lutton <dunkerch@...>
      To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:55 PM
      Subject: [TalkAntietam] Battery B at South Mountain


      >As the Iron Brigade advanced up the National Road at South Mountain, a
      >section of Battery B, 4th US ( incidentally my favorite CW unit) was
      brought
      >forward in support. A. Buell in his history of the battery, THE CANNONEER,
      >and Col. Meredith of the 19th Indiana mention a cabin that was occupied by
      >numerous rebels. The section opened on the cabin and sent one round into
      >the upper story which quickly flushed out the said cabin of its southern
      >occupants.
      >
      >Does anyone have any idea where this cabin would have been located?
      >
      >David Lutton
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: Tom Clemens <clemens@...>
      >To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:50 AM
      >Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Carman-Cope
      >
      >
      >> TR,
      >> I am probably telling you things you already know, but I hope you have
      the
      >> revised 1908 version of the 1904 atlas. Carman made significant changes
      >in
      >> 1908 and reissued the maps. As Kevin mentioned earlier, I have finished
      a
      >> complete transcription of his 1,800 page manuscript and am working on
      >> editing, notating and publishing it.
      >>
      >> TR Livesey wrote:
      >>
      >> > Brian Downey wrote:
      >> > >
      >> > > Hi group,
      >> > >
      >> > > I have been wondering for years, but never asked, is there a
      >> > > published source for the Antietam Battlefield Board Papers and/or
      >> > > maps? I gather from the grapevine that they may reside in the secret
      >> > > back-room at the Battlefield Visitor's Center, but I'm ashamed to
      >> > > admit I've never actually asked to see.
      >> > >
      >> >
      >> > As far as I know, there is only the 1904 edition of the Atlas,
      >> > of which I am lucky enough to have a copy. It is quite spectacular
      >> > (elephant folio) and in color.
      >> >
      >> > I am currently in the process of geo-referencing the troop placements,
      >> > a task which will take quite some time to complete. Geo referencing
      >> > is assigning earth coordinates to features on maps, aerial photographs,
      >> > or satellite images.
      >> >
      >> > Here is a sample from plate 1 "Daybreak":
      >> >
      >> > http://www.enteract.com/~westwood/atlasClose.jpg
      >> >
      >> > Regards,
      >> > TR Livesey
      >> > westwood@...
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
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    • David Lutton
      Tom and Mike thanks for the help. I will use the info on my next trip down to Md. David Lutton ... From: Tom Clemens To:
      Message 2 of 6 , Jul 21, 2001
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        Tom and Mike thanks for the help. I will use the info on my next trip down
        to Md.

        David Lutton
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Tom Clemens <clemens@...>
        To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:49 PM
        Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Battery B at South Mountain


        > David,
        > There was an article published in 1956 entitled Augustus Buell - Fradulent
        > Historian, that says it all. he was never in Battery B, but passed
        himself off
        > as though he was, and got lots of guys memoirs, which he published. Brian
        > Pohanka and I agree thatthere must be some validity to what he says, but
        little
        > if any from personal experience. BTW, in 1993 a fellow in G-burg magazine
        > refuted the 1956 article, so take your choice.
        > The house is on the Fox's Gap road, about 350 yards downhill from where it
        > strikes the National Road. I don't think the same house is there today,
        but
        > that is best left to the reaal South Mt. scholars.
        >
        >
        > David Lutton wrote:
        >
        > > Tom,
        > >
        > > I was under the impression that Buell joined the Battery in August of
        '63.
        > > I knew he was not at South Mountain and his account of same is derived
        from
        > > others. That aside, his account is collaborated by Solomon Meredith in
        his
        > > report of the action at South Mountain. I believe Lt. Stewart's
        section
        > > was called up to support the advance as the 19th Indiana and the 2nd
        > > Wisconsin moved up the southside of the National Road and the 6th and
        7th
        > > Wisconsin advanced to the North of the road. Col. Meredith mentions a
        round
        > > from the section going through the cabin and dislodging confederates.
        But
        > > looking at various maps of the Gorge area, I couldn't find a clue as to
        > > where Buell and Meredith were speaking. The cabin was supposed to be
        > > somewhere in the front of the 19 Indiana. Any thoughts?
        > >
        > > David Lutton
        > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > From: Tom Clemens <clemens@...>
        > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:13 AM
        > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Battery B at South Mountain
        > >
        > > > Wow Dave you have picked two myths to focus on.
        > > > Myth One - the Iron Brigade - there were three units fighting at South
        Mt.
        > > that
        > > > thought they were THE Iron Brigade, which one do you mean?
        > > > Myth Two - Buell NEVER served in Battery B 4th US. I know, he wrote a
        > > book, but
        > > > look at his servicerecord sometime. While the letters to him from
        > > "comrades"
        > > > may be factual, he is not to be trusted.
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > David Lutton wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > As the Iron Brigade advanced up the National Road at South Mountain,
        a
        > > > > section of Battery B, 4th US ( incidentally my favorite CW unit) was
        > > brought
        > > > > forward in support. A. Buell in his history of the battery, THE
        > > CANNONEER,
        > > > > and Col. Meredith of the 19th Indiana mention a cabin that was
        occupied
        > > by
        > > > > numerous rebels. The section opened on the cabin and sent one round
        > > into
        > > > > the upper story which quickly flushed out the said cabin of its
        > > southern
        > > > > occupants.
        > > > >
        > > > > Does anyone have any idea where this cabin would have been located?
        > > > >
        > > > > David Lutton
        > > > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > > > From: Tom Clemens <clemens@...>
        > > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
        > > > > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:50 AM
        > > > > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Carman-Cope
        > > > >
        > > > > > TR,
        > > > > > I am probably telling you things you already know, but I hope you
        have
        > > the
        > > > > > revised 1908 version of the 1904 atlas. Carman made significant
        > > changes
        > > > > in
        > > > > > 1908 and reissued the maps. As Kevin mentioned earlier, I have
        > > finished a
        > > > > > complete transcription of his 1,800 page manuscript and am working
        on
        > > > > > editing, notating and publishing it.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > TR Livesey wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > > Brian Downey wrote:
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Hi group,
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > I have been wondering for years, but never asked, is there a
        > > > > > > > published source for the Antietam Battlefield Board Papers
        and/or
        > > > > > > > maps? I gather from the grapevine that they may reside in the
        > > secret
        > > > > > > > back-room at the Battlefield Visitor's Center, but I'm ashamed
        to
        > > > > > > > admit I've never actually asked to see.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > As far as I know, there is only the 1904 edition of the Atlas,
        > > > > > > of which I am lucky enough to have a copy. It is quite
        spectacular
        > > > > > > (elephant folio) and in color.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > I am currently in the process of geo-referencing the troop
        > > placements,
        > > > > > > a task which will take quite some time to complete. Geo
        referencing
        > > > > > > is assigning earth coordinates to features on maps, aerial
        > > photographs,
        > > > > > > or satellite images.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Here is a sample from plate 1 "Daybreak":
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > http://www.enteract.com/~westwood/atlasClose.jpg
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Regards,
        > > > > > > TR Livesey
        > > > > > > westwood@...
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
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