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Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'

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  • G E Mayers
    Dear Jeff, While Rafuse might follow much the same methods as Harsh, and been taught by him, shouldn t that make you want to see if you can agree or disagree
    Message 1 of 90 , Jul 11 8:06 AM
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      Dear Jeff,

      While Rafuse might follow much the same methods as Harsh, and been taught by
      him, shouldn't that make you want to see if you can agree or disagree with
      him?

      Or, should I say that at South Mountain "Tardy George" did something
      right???

      Very respectfully,
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      "As an American citizen I prize the Union very highly
      and know of no personal sacrifice that I would not make
      to preserve it, save that of honour."
      --Robt. E. Lee, Letter to Rooney Lee, 3 December 1860

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Jeff Beckner (PWC Magazine)" <jbeckner@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:02 AM
      Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'


      > Because I don't think it'll be interesting. I think it'll be bogus, and
      > since I can't argue with the guy in person, it'll only make me want to
      > throw the book across the room. (And I'm saying that not based on the
      > horrible thought that Mac MIGHT not be as bad as I think, but on Jim's
      > and Steve's reviews, and the ugly fact that Rafuse is a Harsh disciple.)
      >
      > I have enough things in my that can do that to me; I don't need to go
      > searching for them!
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]
      > On Behalf Of G E Mayers
      > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:58 AM
      > To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'
      >
      > Jeff,
      >
      > why not buy a book because it might be interesting, rather than worrying
      > if
      > someone else might want to p___ you off?
      >
      > Very respectfully,
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > "As an American citizen I prize the Union very highly
      > and know of no personal sacrifice that I would not make
      > to preserve it, save that of honour."
      > --Robt. E. Lee, Letter to Rooney Lee, 3 December 1860
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Jeff Beckner (PWC Magazine)" <jbeckner@...>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:50 AM
      > Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'
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      >> Steve says he's taking the contrary view, apparently more or less for
      >> the sake of taking it....if I buy it, I know it'll only p--s me off.
      > I'm
      >> getting old and wise enough now to know better on such things.
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
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      >> On Behalf Of Thomas Clemens
      >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:41 AM
      >> To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      >> Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'
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      >> Read the book Jeff, read the book. Then comment.
      >> Tom
      >>
      >> Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
      >> Professor of History
      >> Hagerstown Community College
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    • Jeff Beckner (PWC Magazine)
      OK. Thanks. ... From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Clemens Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:35 PM To:
      Message 90 of 90 , Jul 12 12:37 PM
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        OK. Thanks.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com]
        On Behalf Of Thomas Clemens
        Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:35 PM
        To: TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [TalkAntietam] McClellan has the 'fasts'

        I read the book too, and thought the mention of the K-N Act was
        tangental to the theme. Rafuse was discussing McClellan's shift from a
        tradtional Whig to a Douglas Democrat, and IIRC, Jim wanted a discussion
        of the inconsistency of that shift due to Douglas' sponsoring of the K-N
        Act. Rafuse does talk about it later, in the context of Lincoln, but it
        cannot be fairly said that Rafuse ignores or leaves it out. It just was
        not as emphasized as Jim thought it should be. Fair criticism, but not
        an indictment of the author.

        Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
        Professor of History
        Hagerstown Community College


        >>> jbeckner@... 07/12/05 10:53 AM >>>
        OK....are they dealt with in any detail? One of Jim's criticisms (he
        READ the book, you know) was that Rafuse didn't raise some questions on
        some topics that probably should have been raised.




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