Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions about Antietam
- Dear Tom,
I was going strictly from memory....... thanks.
Your Humble and Obdt. Servant,
G. E. "Gerry" Mayers
Confederate Signal Corps,
"It is Well that WAR is so Terrible;
else we shall grow too fond of it."
--Robert E. Lee
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Questions about Antietam
> My further comments to your responses are in caps below (except Carman in
> lower case):
> Q: Did AP Hll's men actually display the US Flag (Stars & Stripes)?
> Good question. But I think to do so would be to risk being fired upon by
> their own men as they came up......
> LT. COL.CURTIS OF 4TH RI DESCRIBES: "AS THE ENEMY SHOWED THE NATIONAL FLAG
> [STARS AND STRIPES]..." Source: Murfin's The Gleam of Bayonets Pg 284
> Q: Were a significant number of Rebs actually in The Cornfield as Hooker's
> dawn attack began?
> What is a significant number? From what I have read, it appears (IIR) that
> Lawton's men were the ones hidden in the corn as Hooker's lead brigades came up.
> LAWTON'S DIVISION FORMED ON JONES' EXTREME RIGHT WITH HIS OWN AND TRIMBLE'S
> BRIGADES TO THE EXTREME RIGHT ASTRIDE THE SMOKETOWN ROAD FACING A NORTHEASTERLY
> CARMAN NOTES AS FOLLOWS:
> Lawton's Brigade, commanded by Colonel Marcellus Douglass, 13th Georgia, had
> six Georgia regiments--the 13th, 26th, 31st, 38th, 60th, and 61st--numbering
> 1150 men. When first in position, and until the battle had fairly opened, the
> left of the brigade was about 120 yards east of the Hagerstown road, and the
> three left regiments--the 26th, 38th, and 61st, in order named from left to
> right-- from 225 to 230 yards south of the Miller cornfield and practically
> parallel to it; the right wing of the brigade was refused and faced northeast. The
> 31st Georgia was thrown to the front and left of the right wing, and to within
> 120 yards of the, its right about 100 yards from the East Woods fence. When
> taking position, during the night of the 16th, two companies of the 31st, under
> command of Lieutenant W.H. Harrison, were advanced as pickets 50 feet into the
> corn, their right at the edge of the East Woods, their left extending to the
> Hagerstown road. Before daybreak of the 17th Harrison inadvertently stumbled
> upon the Union picket line, a few shots were fired, Harrison was captured, and
> his pickets were withdrawn from the corn and formed along its south border.
> The ground held by the brigade was somewhat lower than the cornfield, and, in
> nearly its entire length, was covered by low stone ledges, and small
> protuberances, which afforded some protection and, in places, a rail fence was thrown
> down and piled as a breastwork. In other places there was no protection, either
> of rock-ledge, inequality of the ground, or fence rails, but as the action
> progressed and the line rapidly thinned, those exposed positions were abandoned
> for the sheltered ones.
> Q: Some books really emphasize a counterattack by Rodes that reached near the
> Roulette Farm. Just how serious was this attack?
> WHEN RODES' UNIDENTIFIED TROOPS (TWO BRIGADES) REACHED THE ROULETTE FARM...
> Source: Murfin's The Gleam of Bayonets Pg 256
> Tom Shay
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- One of Tom's questions concerns whether the right flank of the Irish
Brigade reached as far as Roulette Lane. I don't believe that it did.
It is my understanding that the Irish Brigade came in on the left of the
8th Ohio. The 8th was situated with it's right flank anchored at Roulette
Lane. In "The Valiant Hours" by Thomas Galwey(Stackpole, 1961) he twice
mentions that the Irish Brigade moves in on the left of the 8th. At the
time, Galwey was a Sgt. in Co. B of the 8th OVI. Both his statements and
his drawn map indicate the position of the 8th at the Lane.
Galwey was an Irish born resident of Cleveland at the time of the
war. Most of the men in Co. B of the 8th were of Irish birth or
heritage. These men apparently had a great relationship with those in the
The Valiant Hours is a great read, but also a bit hard to find. I haven't
read my copy about 5 years, so I guess it's about time to dust it off read
it again for the 4th time.