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  • G E Mayers
    May 25, 2009
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      Dear Tom,

      What would such a project cost? Would it be something SHAF could
      offer at a discount to members?

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

      To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
      the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:11 PM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: CC Map Question


      > Somewhere in the papers from Carman I found a listing of the
      > changes.
      > Will see if I can find it for you. We have 8 x10 color
      > negatives of the
      > 1908 maps. Maybe I should look into printing them poster-size?
      >
      > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
      > Professor of History
      > Hagerstown Community College
      >
      >
      >>>> T.R.Livesey <tlivesey@...> 05/24/09 3:08
      >>>> PM >>>
      > Larry,
      >
      > I have never had access to a 1908 version to compare. My guess
      > is that
      > the
      > differences between the 2 are minor. A hint of possible changes
      > can be
      > extracted
      > from 1906 correspondence from Carman reprinted in the
      > commemorative
      > volume of the
      > Pennsylvania Reserves (pp 95-8). There is a dispute between the
      > Antietam
      > Battlefield Commission of Pennsylvania and Carman about the
      > proposed
      > placement of
      > the monuments for the 8th, 7th, 4th, and 3rd PR: they want the
      > order to
      > be 8th
      > 7th 4th and 3rd, whereas Carman's map shows 8th 3rd 4th 7th.
      > After
      > making his
      > case, Carman laments : ”It is unfortunate that this matter was
      > not
      > discussed
      > earlier. My atlas has been published two years, and a copy sent
      > to each
      > regimental organization with the request that any apparent
      > errors might
      > be
      > reported, but not a criticism has been made of any position of
      > the First
      > Corps,
      > and but one or two trifling ones in other corps.” I don't know
      > if the
      > 1908
      > edition was altered to reflect the commission's version. The
      > monuments
      > were
      > placed as per Carman's recommendation. Whatever the case, as
      > late as
      > 1906, Carman
      > was unaware of 'non-trifling' discrepancies of the 1904
      > version.
      >
      > BTW, the fold-out map that accompanies the PR volume is a real
      > gem: a
      > beautiful
      > depiction of the battlefield at the turn of the century (before
      > the
      > various
      > bypasses were built) in color and wonderful topographical
      > detail (20 ft
      > interval
      > contour lines). One of the nicest maps out there.
      >
      > T.R. Livesey
      > tlivesey@...
      >
      > On Sun 05/24/09 12:51 PM , "eighth_conn_inf"
      > eighth_conn_inf@...
      > sent:
      >> TR,
      >>
      >> I looked at some of your flybys and they are interesting;
      >> thanks for
      >> sharing them. I will be instructive to see what Stephen comes
      >> up with
      > for
      >> Virtual Antietam.
      >> I've never heard that anyone owns the 1908 CC version let
      >> alone
      > listing the
      >> differences between the two. Maybe Tom Clemens who is writing
      >> about
      > Carman
      >> may have that version copied or at least talk about the
      >> differences. I
      >> recall someone--Jake Pierro--mentioned that the LOC has both
      >> 1904 and
      > 1908
      >> versions but only has the 1904 on its website.
      >> Someday someone may have a good printing done of the the 1908
      >> version
      > and
      >> maybe even some done of some of the original prints of the OR
      >> maps but
      > my
      >> guess is neither is likely to happen unless CWPT or some
      >> wealthy CW
      > fan
      >> ponies up the required funds since neither will be best
      >> sellers.
      >> Larry
      >>
      >>
      >
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      >
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