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5321Re: re Hospital site identification in CS Army

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  • eighth_conn_inf
    Feb 3, 2009
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      Dave,

      Excellent info on that link, thank you. I now have another bookmark,
      too.

      Larry F.

      --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "flagflop" <dwgaddy@...> wrote:
      >
      > Gerry and T'other Dave,
      >
      > Check out two postings by Tom Martin (Piedmont Flag Company) on the
      > Civil War Flags Message Board, his 8665 of 3 Dec and his follow-up,
      > msg 8670 of 5 Dec 2008, the latter at http://history-sites.com/cgi-
      > bin/bbs53x/cwflags/webbbs_config.pl?read=8670--- Per his extensive
      > research, he points out all of the complications -- that red
      > (probably from European precedent) had been specified in regs, and
      > that yellow was the quarantine flag. He goes on to note variations
      in
      > usage by area, time period, commanding general, military vs.
      civilian
      > doctors, hospital organization vs. ambulance corps, and other
      facets.
      >
      > Dave Gaddy
      > -----------------------------
      > In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, Dave <gewehr@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Gerry and Dave, the citations I found for the yellow flag were
      for
      > a
      > > field hospital, and were very early in the war. I did find a
      > citation
      > > for a red flag on a ANV hospital ambulance. The quote I cited
      > > previously, that any soldier would recognize the yellow flag as a
      > > hospital, leads me to think that yellow was the normal flag color
      > at
      > > that time. But, it's only a guess. Since one of the quotes was
      > from
      > > Sumter, was the yellow flag standard for a field hospital in the
      > pre-war
      > > army, and later changed by both sides? Would a field hospital
      and
      > a
      > > main hospital have different color flags?
      > >
      > > Maybe you could contact the folks at the Pry house. The
      gentleman
      > in
      > > there is very helpful and may have connections with the main ACW
      > medical
      > > museum. I spent an enjoyable hour picking his brain in October,
      > but
      > > never caught his name.
      > >
      > > Dave McGowan
      > >
      > > G E Mayers wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Dear Dave,
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for all the info. I do have a facsimile copy of the 1863
      > > > revision of the "Regulations for the Army of the Confederate
      > > > States" and was fairly sure the specific color was indeed red. I
      > > > also have an electronic copy of the respective US Army
      > > > Regulations.
      > > >
      > > > However, there is documentation the Union Army used a yellow
      > > > rectangular flag with a large green H in the center. And, as you
      > > > cite Phil Katcher (who is truly quite knowledgeable about the
      > > > ANVa), that sounds pretty convincing to me.
      > > >
      > > > Would wonder if there were any General Orders from the War
      > > > Department in Richmond, either via the Adjutant and Inspector
      > > > General 's Office or the Medical Bureau modifying the stated
      > > > regulations?
      > > >
      > > > I also have a copy of J. Boone Bartholmees's excellent
      work "Buff
      > > > Facings and Gilt Buttons: Staff and Headquarters Operations in
      > > > the Army of Northern Virginia: 1861-1865", which does state the
      A
      > > > & IGO _did_ modify the regulations as published in the official
      > > > regulations books by means of General Orders.
      > > >
      > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > >
      > > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      > > > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      > > > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction from
      > > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "flagflop" <dwgaddy@ <mailto:dwgaddy%40verizon.net>>
      > > > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TalkAntietam%
      > 40yahoogroups.com>>
      > > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:55 PM
      > > > Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: re Hospital site identification in
      CS
      > > > Army
      > > >
      > > > Gerry,
      > > >
      > > > 1862 and 1863 CS Army Regs, para 714, specify red. (Same in US
      > > > Army
      > > > Revised Regs 1861, para 736 as marker for "the ambulance
      depot.")
      > > > However, I see in Philip Katcher's 1994 "The Army of Robert E.
      > > > Lee,"
      > > > p. 170, citing J.O. Casler of Stonewall Brigade, that in the ANV
      > > > hospitals were marked with yellow, rather than red.
      > > >
      > > > Dave Gaddy
      > > >
      > > > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com
      > > > <mailto:TalkAntietam%40yahoogroups.com>, "G E Mayers"
      > > > <gerry1952@>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Gang,
      > > > >
      > > > > Can anyone tell me quickly what the CS Army would have used as
      > > > > a
      > > > > flag to identify a hospital? IIRC the Union Armies used a
      > > > > yellow
      > > > > flag with a green H in the center; however, I am not sure what
      > > > > the Confederacy would have used.
      > > > >
      > > > > If the information is in the relevant CS Regulations, just
      > > > > point
      > > > > me to where and I can go look therein.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks!
      > > > >
      > > > > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > > > > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      > > > >
      > > > > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or
      even
      > > > > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      > > > > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction
      > > > > from
      > > > > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
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