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5143Re: [TalkAntietam] Sept 18 Truce

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  • Thomas Clemens
    Oct 7, 2008
      I'd argue not proposed, it just happened. Front line commanders allowed this at times for a variety of reasons, but for an army to commander to ask his opposing commander for a truce was taken as a sign of defeat. Lee didn't ask McClellan, it just happened in a few isolated spots.
      On the other hand, a number people got shot on the 18th a active skirmishing continued in some spots.


      Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
      Professor of History
      Hagerstown Community College




      >>> "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> 10/7/2008 7:56 AM >>>

      Then that makes it all the more amazing.................that it
      was "unofficially" proposed and was actually carried out...

      Yr. Obt. Svt.
      G E "Gerry" Mayers

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
      To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:50 AM
      Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Sept 18 Truce

      > Um, unofficially, of course.
      >
      >
      > Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
      > Professor of History
      > Hagerstown Community College
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >>>> "G E Mayers" <gerry1952@...> 10/6/2008 10:32 PM >>>
      >
      > Dear Tom,
      >
      > Then how did that famous incident behind the Dunkerd Church
      > happen?
      >
      > Yr. Obt. Svt.
      > G E "Gerry" Mayers
      >
      > To Be A Virginian, either by birth, marriage, adoption, or even
      > on one's mother's side, is an introduction to any state in the
      > Union, a passport to any foreign country, and a benediction
      > from
      > the Almighty God. --Anonymous
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Thomas Clemens" <clemenst@...>
      > To: <TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:25 PM
      > Subject: Re: [TalkAntietam] Sept 18 Truce
      >
      > No offical truces. To ask for one would be seen as an admission
      > of being beaten. Lee didn't want to do that. Same thing
      > ahppened with Grant after the debacle at Cold Harbor.
      >
      > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
      > Professor of History
      > Hagerstown Community College
      >
      >>>> Dave <gewehr@...> 10/06/08 5:08 PM >>>
      > Thanks for all the responses to my questions about tactical
      > movements.
      > I will get Carman and just keep studying the maps.
      >
      > Thanks also to Brian for the Shepherdstown ford pictures and
      > research.
      > Excellent work.
      >
      > On the topic of O. Norton, I was reading one of his letters
      > home
      > where
      > he said the truce of the 18th allowed the ANV time to pack up
      > and
      > prepare to escape. I also read this charge in another letter
      > (soldierstudies.org). Harsh states that there was no official
      > truce.
      > Hancock writes in the OR that there was an unofficial truce
      > made
      > between
      > the pickets that allowed some retrieval (presumably on both
      > sides) and
      > that Hancock had himself rejected a truce flag, and had even
      > fired on
      > and captured some ANV under a truce flag.
      >
      > Why would a truce be rejected? Were there any official truces
      > at
      > all on
      > any parts of the field?
      >
      > Dave
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      >
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