4168Re: [TalkAntietam] Re: ANVa Supply Trains
- Feb 1, 2008Dean;
Some of the artillery was left at Williamsport and some was left
near Shepherdstown. Shepherdstown also was where the hospitals,
He was also protecting his only retreat route.
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G E "Gerry" Mayers
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----- Original Message -----
From: "dean_essig" <dean_essig@...>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: [TalkAntietam] Re: ANVa Supply Trains
Tom it is... glad to meet you, sir!
Excellent information, that helps me spot the trains on the map.
The artillery problem is an issue I'll need to resolve. I don't
recall Reilly (who at least
mentioned going back to look) or anyone else suggesting they had
to ford the Potomac to
get a re-supply of artillery ammunition. So, this indirectly
suggests that what stocks they
had available were in the Md side trains.
Leaving me wondering what it was Lee was protecting across the
Do you know of any other battery commanders recollections about
the rather mundane
matters of ammunition resupply on that day?
--- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens"
> I keep meaning to tell you, nobody calls me Thomas, Tom is just
> fine. I think you have it
correctly stated. Location of the Artillery Reserve trains, such
as they were with the loss of
many near Williamsport, is likely across the river, however I
think some of it was forwarded
on the 18th as Lee called for gathering stragglers and ammo
resupply. Going from
memory, but in Lee's comments about his HQ tent he describes it
as 1 & 1/4 miles from
Cemetery Hill, (I think) making the two miles just about on Mt.
Airy, the Grove family farm.
That would also be logical for there was access to water and lots
of fields to park a wagon
> Dr. Thomas G. Clemens
> Professor of History
> Hagerstown Community College
> >>> "dean_essig" <dean_essig@...> 2/1/2008 1:55 PM >>>
> Reviewed the cited sections. All seems to be resolved but one
> What we know:
> 1) The non-Ammunition trains are in Shepherdstown. Getting
> there at various dates.
> Hood's were escorted to his division so the Texans could get
> some food.
> 2) Small arms ammuntion trains were ordered back into Md and
> positioned "2 miles to
> rear" (that distance is mentioned in several places, but w/o a
> reference as to rear of
> or who).
> The one thing (two parts) that we don't know is:
> 1a) Were the Army Reserve Ammunition trains still in Virgina?
> Harsh believes so.
> 1b) Was there artillery ammunition in the trains that were sent
> back into Md? This is
> interesting because it seems that Lee kept the Reserve Trains
> across the river to avoid
> losing artillery ammunition.
> Am I off on any of the above and is there any answer to the
> --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens"
> <clemenst@> wrote:
> > Dean,
> > The info on the trains is mentioned in Chapter 8 of Taken at
> > the Flood, pp. 338-9
> footnotes 34 & 37 and also in Sounding the Shallows, pp. 193-4.
> Let me know if you
> not have access to those books.
> > Thomas G. Clemens D.A.
> > Professor of History
> > Hagerstown Community College
> > >>> "dean_essig" <dean_essig@> 01/30/08 11:18 AM >>>
> > Excellent info, Thomas!
> > That would bring all the loose ends together (no mean feat),
> > if I can impose (and
> > get a chance) please dig out some sources on the "but ammo"
> > exception.
> > You may not have earned a free game yet, but you will by the
> > time this project is done
> > Doesn't matter if you don't have time to play it, you'll want
> > a copy of a product that
> > name in the research credits I would think. ;-)
> > --- In TalkAntietam@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Clemens"
> > <clemenst@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dean,
> > > I am at work and away from sources, but it is my
> > > understanding that all trains
> > ammo were sent across the river. Thus Hood, looking for
> > food, had to go find his and
> > them forward, while Reilly etc. looking for ammo found theirs
> > near Sharpsburg.
> > loss was the Reserve Artillery ammo for his command, not all
> > of his trains.
> > > Hope this helps. Do I get a free copy of the game? :-)
> > > just kidding, I don't have
> > play them.
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