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  • Taran Rampersad
    David, You may actually have a better solution than wxWindows available to you. At one point I was discussing with my dentist a manner in which to do the same
    Message 1 of 9 , Apr 2, 2004
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      David,

      You may actually have a better solution than wxWindows available to you.
      At one point I was discussing with my dentist a manner in which to do
      the same thing, and I was thinking along the path you presently are.
      (Incidentally, wxWindows is now wxWidgets due to a settlement with
      Microsoft).

      Here's what I'll toss at you now: http://www.drupal.org/ and
      http://drupal.org/project/image

      You'll have to break a few current 'thinking molds' in IT. But it's
      possible. Consider this:

      (1) Each user is actually a dental patient.
      (2) A server can be a local server; a server can be on local machine -
      not necessarily *a* local machine.

      This particular solution is almost completely platform independant. I'm
      all for a C++ solution myself, but - I think you can get this off the
      ground with a minimum of programming, as well as training of office
      staff - a big issue, especially in Trinidad and Tobago.

      My two cents, your mileage may vary.

      If you do use this approach, please let me know.


      David McKen wrote:

      > I want to archive MANY images of scanned material (mainly
      > textual/forms).
      >
      > What would be a good software manager for this?
      >
      > My requirements are:
      > Free <- I would be willing to settle for cheap.
      > Relatively portable <- Win/Lin.
      > Allows multiple (possibly user defined) fields of text that can be
      > used
      > later when searching the images. I could code all the info into the
      > filename
      > but that would get annoying.
      > Compression of entire database (not really a requirement but would be
      > quite
      > useful if implemented.
      >
      > If it will help here is a full description of my problem. My uncle
      > runs a
      > dental office and we have patient records from 6-7 years ago (that is
      > how
      > long since we have last seen them) and the filing cabinets are
      > becoming
      > quite full, we have removed all patients that haven't come back in
      > the past
      > 3 years and stored them in a seperate location and now that is
      > getting
      > packed, we want to convert them to electronic format and I want some
      > way to
      > manage the resultant images. We want to be able to search by first or
      > last
      > name as well as social security # and possibly date we last saw them.
      >
      > Does anyone know any software that could meet this need. I was
      > considering
      > code it myself using wxWindows and coupling it with a mySQL database
      > but if
      > such a product does exist then why start from scratch?
      >
      > Thanks in Advance
      > David McKen


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    • Allan Samaroo
      You can use a Photo Album.........i ve just installed Gallery as part of my Intranet. It comes with a java-based client for both Mac OSX and Windows where you
      Message 2 of 9 , Apr 2, 2004
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        You can use a Photo Album.........i've just installed Gallery as part of my
        Intranet. It comes with a java-based client for both Mac OSX and Windows
        where you actually drag and drop pictures from source to the client app!!!!
        It is really one of the higher quality open source apps out there!!!! It
        does require a PHP enabled web server though which is not a problem on
        windows as you can use IIS, apache, xitami or even PWS.......PHP is
        auto-configuring for IIS, xitami and PWS......no database software required.

        See: http://gallery.menalto.com

        There is another one called Greenstone which is UN-funded and also
        GPL'ed..........and comes with it's own built-in web server but I think it's
        harder to maintain a collection........well after seeing how easy Gallery
        is.

        See: http://www.greenstone.org

        Both allows you to categorise pictures and give them names, descriptions,
        and people can even enter their comments when they view pictures.........the
        names, descriptions and comments are all searchable as well.

        There are others which may be better fit your bill.......do a search for
        "photo album" at freshmeat or sourceforge.

        HTH, and as usual please post whatever solution you may use. Not many
        people do and that takes away from the list.

        Allan.




        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: David McKen [mailto:cic_3_b@...]
        > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:58 PM
        > To: Mailing List, TTLUG
        > Subject: [TTLUG] Image database manager
        >
        > I want to archive MANY images of scanned material (mainly
        > textual/forms).
        >
        > What would be a good software manager for this?
        >
        > My requirements are:
        > Free <- I would be willing to settle for cheap.
        > Relatively portable <- Win/Lin.
        > Allows multiple (possibly user defined) fields of text that
        > can be used later when searching the images. I could code all
        > the info into the filename but that would get annoying.
        > Compression of entire database (not really a requirement but
        > would be quite useful if implemented.
        >
        > If it will help here is a full description of my problem. My
        > uncle runs a dental office and we have patient records from
        > 6-7 years ago (that is how long since we have last seen them)
        > and the filing cabinets are becoming quite full, we have
        > removed all patients that haven't come back in the past
        > 3 years and stored them in a seperate location and now that
        > is getting packed, we want to convert them to electronic
        > format and I want some way to manage the resultant images. We
        > want to be able to search by first or last name as well as
        > social security # and possibly date we last saw them.
        >
        > Does anyone know any software that could meet this need. I
        > was considering code it myself using wxWindows and coupling
        > it with a mySQL database but if such a product does exist
        > then why start from scratch?
        >
        > Thanks in Advance
        > David McKen
        >
        >
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      • nphillip@hotmail.com
        What type of storage would something like this require? I ask because i have recently begun taking digital pictures using a 3.2mp camera and i m up to 1gb
        Message 3 of 9 , Apr 2, 2004
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          What type of storage would something like this require?

          I ask because i have recently begun taking digital
          pictures using a 3.2mp camera and i'm up to 1gb already.
          You are talking about scanning xrays from 6-7 to the present
          along with forms. Then you have to consider backups, etc.

          --- In TTLUG@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Samaroo" <samaroo@g...> wrote:
          > You can use a Photo Album.........i've just installed Gallery as
          part of my
          > Intranet. It comes with a java-based client for both Mac OSX and
          Windows
          > where you actually drag and drop pictures from source to the client
          app!!!!
          > It is really one of the higher quality open source apps out
          there!!!! It
          > does require a PHP enabled web server though which is not a problem
          on
          > windows as you can use IIS, apache, xitami or even PWS.......PHP is
          > auto-configuring for IIS, xitami and PWS......no database software
          required.
          >
          > See: http://gallery.menalto.com
          >
          > There is another one called Greenstone which is UN-funded and also
          > GPL'ed..........and comes with it's own built-in web server but I
          think it's
          > harder to maintain a collection........well after seeing how easy
          Gallery
          > is.
          >
          > See: http://www.greenstone.org
          >
          > Both allows you to categorise pictures and give them names,
          descriptions,
          > and people can even enter their comments when they view
          pictures.........the
          > names, descriptions and comments are all searchable as well.
          >
          > There are others which may be better fit your bill.......do a
          search for
          > "photo album" at freshmeat or sourceforge.
          >
          > HTH, and as usual please post whatever solution you may use. Not
          many
          > people do and that takes away from the list.
          >
          > Allan.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: David McKen [mailto:cic_3_b@y...]
          > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:58 PM
          > > To: Mailing List, TTLUG
          > > Subject: [TTLUG] Image database manager
          > >
          > > I want to archive MANY images of scanned material (mainly
          > > textual/forms).
          > >
          > > What would be a good software manager for this?
          > >
          > > My requirements are:
          > > Free <- I would be willing to settle for cheap.
          > > Relatively portable <- Win/Lin.
          > > Allows multiple (possibly user defined) fields of text that
          > > can be used later when searching the images. I could code all
          > > the info into the filename but that would get annoying.
          > > Compression of entire database (not really a requirement but
          > > would be quite useful if implemented.
          > >
          > > If it will help here is a full description of my problem. My
          > > uncle runs a dental office and we have patient records from
          > > 6-7 years ago (that is how long since we have last seen them)
          > > and the filing cabinets are becoming quite full, we have
          > > removed all patients that haven't come back in the past
          > > 3 years and stored them in a seperate location and now that
          > > is getting packed, we want to convert them to electronic
          > > format and I want some way to manage the resultant images. We
          > > want to be able to search by first or last name as well as
          > > social security # and possibly date we last saw them.
          > >
          > > Does anyone know any software that could meet this need. I
          > > was considering code it myself using wxWindows and coupling
          > > it with a mySQL database but if such a product does exist
          > > then why start from scratch?
          > >
          > > Thanks in Advance
          > > David McKen
          > >
          > >
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        • David McKen
          I was more looking for a way to archive old patient records (the current set numbers 500 and are scheduled for destruction). This poses another posibility, we
          Message 4 of 9 , Apr 2, 2004
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            I was more looking for a way to archive old patient records (the
            current set
            numbers 500 and are scheduled for destruction).

            This poses another posibility, we pay a pretty penny for our billing
            software might be possible to replace it with this.

            I will keep you informed as to whether or not we use it. Got to run
            it by my
            uncle first.

            By the way I am in Maryland,USA at the moment, most of our staff are
            computer savy (I dare not say literate).

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Taran Rampersad
            To: TTLUG@yahoogroups.com

            <snip>

            Here's what I'll toss at you now: http://www.drupal.org/ and
            http://drupal.org/project/image

            <snip>


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          • Anil Ramnanan
            Here is some software you might want to take a look at Open Source http://www.open-dent.com/ Anil.
            Message 5 of 9 , Apr 2, 2004
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              Here is some software you might want to take a look at

              Open Source
              http://www.open-dent.com/


              Anil.

              On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 23:40, David McKen wrote:
              > I was more looking for a way to archive old patient records (the
              > current set
              > numbers 500 and are scheduled for destruction).
              >
              > This poses another posibility, we pay a pretty penny for our billing
              > software might be possible to replace it with this.
              >
              > I will keep you informed as to whether or not we use it. Got to run
              > it by my
              > uncle first.
              >
              > By the way I am in Maryland,USA at the moment, most of our staff are
              > computer savy (I dare not say literate).
              >
            • Taran Rampersad
              ... This would be a superb use of Drupal. I m actually looking over the code in the Book module right now, but a billing plug-in could probably be based off of
              Message 6 of 9 , Apr 3, 2004
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                David McKen wrote:

                > I was more looking for a way to archive old patient records (the
                > current set
                > numbers 500 and are scheduled for destruction).

                This would be a superb use of Drupal. I'm actually looking over the code
                in the Book module right now, but a billing plug-in could probably be
                based off of other modules in there. I've been considering other uses as
                well...

                >
                > This poses another posibility, we pay a pretty penny for our billing
                > software might be possible to replace it with this.

                There's another part of this as well. Consider sharing of medical
                records between dental offices; from specialists such as the surgeons
                (Crack, ow) and so on. I was considering the synergy between medical
                offices and dental offices and even hospitals as well. The MySQL back
                end makes a lot possible, as do others.

                I have found some stumbling blocks to some of my thoughts, such as the
                issue of large revisions in Drupal (thus the reason I am looking into
                the Book module at this time).

                The front end is simply nice with Drupal, at least to start with, and
                gives an existing code base to work with. Hardware has become cheaper,
                and to do many things, an adaptable CMS is quite useful. Consider that
                an RSS feed to a cellular phone is the *perfect* replacement for a
                Doctor's pager/Dentist.

                >
                > I will keep you informed as to whether or not we use it. Got to run
                > it by my
                > uncle first.

                If you do, I'd be happy to assist as time permits. As it is, I've become
                a journeyman Drupal person. wxWindows has it's uses as well.

                Properly adapted, Drupal could probably even handle.... hehehe... credit
                union software. :P

                >
                > By the way I am in Maryland,USA at the moment, most of our staff are
                > computer savy (I dare not say literate).

                Maryland? Hehe... been through there a few times on the way down to DC
                from NY. Do they have Cracker Barrels on the interstate in Maryland? I
                never got to find out... Always ended up eating further South, it seems.

                --
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              • David McKen
                ... Yep. There is one about 15 minutes from my uncle s place. ... Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today [Non-text
                Message 7 of 9 , Apr 3, 2004
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                  > Maryland? Hehe... been through there a few times on the way down to DC
                  > from NY. Do they have Cracker Barrels on the interstate in Maryland? I
                  > never got to find out... Always ended up eating further South, it seems.

                  Yep. There is one about 15 minutes from my uncle's place.



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                • Allan Samaroo
                  A complete installation of the software is about 3-15MB depending on libraries installed..........the size of the photo albums themselves really depends on
                  Message 8 of 9 , Apr 7, 2004
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                    A complete installation of the software is about 3-15MB depending on
                    libraries installed..........the size of the photo albums themselves really
                    depends on number of photos, the resolution (size), quality, format, etc
                    etc..........a 3.2 megapixel is good enough unless you also want to make
                    large prints..............

                    The thing with photos is that they're kept a really really long
                    time.........an 80GB hard drive is relatively cheap these days so I'd
                    recommend getting one of those to start with.

                    Have you joined a photography club yet? I think another (very dormant) LUG
                    member wanted to start one.......

                    Allan.


                    > -----Original Message-----
                    > From: nphillip@... [mailto:nphillip@...]
                    > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:17 PM
                    > To: TTLUG@yahoogroups.com
                    > Subject: [TTLUG] Re: Image database manager
                    >
                    > What type of storage would something like this require?
                    >
                    > I ask because i have recently begun taking digital pictures
                    > using a 3.2mp camera and i'm up to 1gb already.
                    > You are talking about scanning xrays from 6-7 to the present
                    > along with forms. Then you have to consider backups, etc.
                    >
                    > --- In TTLUG@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Samaroo" <samaroo@g...> wrote:
                    > > You can use a Photo Album.........i've just installed Gallery as
                    > part of my
                    > > Intranet. It comes with a java-based client for both Mac OSX and
                    > Windows
                    > > where you actually drag and drop pictures from source to the client
                    > app!!!!
                    > > It is really one of the higher quality open source apps out
                    > there!!!! It
                    > > does require a PHP enabled web server though which is not a problem
                    > on
                    > > windows as you can use IIS, apache, xitami or even PWS.......PHP is
                    > > auto-configuring for IIS, xitami and PWS......no database software
                    > required.
                    > >
                    > > See: http://gallery.menalto.com
                    > >
                    > > There is another one called Greenstone which is UN-funded and also
                    > > GPL'ed..........and comes with it's own built-in web server but I
                    > think it's
                    > > harder to maintain a collection........well after seeing how easy
                    > Gallery
                    > > is.
                    > >
                    > > See: http://www.greenstone.org
                    > >
                    > > Both allows you to categorise pictures and give them names,
                    > descriptions,
                    > > and people can even enter their comments when they view
                    > pictures.........the
                    > > names, descriptions and comments are all searchable as well.
                    > >
                    > > There are others which may be better fit your bill.......do a
                    > search for
                    > > "photo album" at freshmeat or sourceforge.
                    > >
                    > > HTH, and as usual please post whatever solution you may use. Not
                    > many
                    > > people do and that takes away from the list.
                    > >
                    > > Allan.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > > From: David McKen [mailto:cic_3_b@y...]
                    > > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:58 PM
                    > > > To: Mailing List, TTLUG
                    > > > Subject: [TTLUG] Image database manager
                    > > >
                    > > > I want to archive MANY images of scanned material (mainly
                    > > > textual/forms).
                    > > >
                    > > > What would be a good software manager for this?
                    > > >
                    > > > My requirements are:
                    > > > Free <- I would be willing to settle for cheap.
                    > > > Relatively portable <- Win/Lin.
                    > > > Allows multiple (possibly user defined) fields of text
                    > that can be
                    > > > used later when searching the images. I could code all
                    > the info into
                    > > > the filename but that would get annoying.
                    > > > Compression of entire database (not really a requirement
                    > but would
                    > > > be quite useful if implemented.
                    > > >
                    > > > If it will help here is a full description of my problem.
                    > My uncle
                    > > > runs a dental office and we have patient records from
                    > > > 6-7 years ago (that is how long since we have last seen them) and
                    > > > the filing cabinets are becoming quite full, we have removed all
                    > > > patients that haven't come back in the past
                    > > > 3 years and stored them in a seperate location and now that is
                    > > > getting packed, we want to convert them to electronic
                    > format and I
                    > > > want some way to manage the resultant images. We want to
                    > be able to
                    > > > search by first or last name as well as social security # and
                    > > > possibly date we last saw them.
                    > > >
                    > > > Does anyone know any software that could meet this need. I was
                    > > > considering code it myself using wxWindows and coupling it with a
                    > > > mySQL database but if such a product does exist then why
                    > start from
                    > > > scratch?
                    > > >
                    > > > Thanks in Advance
                    > > > David McKen
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > __________________________________
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                    > in the
                    > > > subject matter or would otherwise benefit from joining
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                    > > > list.
                    > > >
                    > > > Trinidad and Tobago Linux Users Group
                    > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ttlug
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                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Help build TTLUG by forwarding this to anyone who is
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