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  • mojca_belak
    Hello everybody! I m the newest member in the group. I have this question and would really like to know what others think. There are lots of teacher training
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 25, 2006
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      Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
      I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

      There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
      people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
      are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
      beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
      THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

      Regards

      Mojca
    • Taylor, Linda
      In my experience they attend short events or they do professional training such as DELTA or the new Level 4 government endorsed certificate for ESOL subject
      Message 2 of 6 , Sep 25, 2006
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        In my experience they attend short events or they do professional
        training such as DELTA or the new Level 4 government endorsed
        certificate for ESOL subject specialists.

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        From: TDSIG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TDSIG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        mojca_belak
        Sent: 25 September 2006 11:05
        To: TDSIG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [TDSIG] A burning question


        Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
        I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

        There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
        people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
        are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
        beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
        THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

        Regards

        Mojca






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      • Diarmuid Fogarty
        It s a very good question, Mojca, and should be asked alongside the question, Why are the training requirements for NNS usually far more rigourous and
        Message 3 of 6 , Sep 25, 2006
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          It's a very good question, Mojca, and should be asked alongside the question, "Why are the training requirements for NNS usually far more rigourous and connected to pedagogy than the training requirements for NS?"
           
          In answer to your question, I refresh my teaching through online discussion groups, reading journals and research books, attending local conferences and international ones (when the college pays). I've also done a PGCE in teaching and am currently embarking on a Master's course in TESOL I try to vary my activities too, doing some teacher training, taking responsibilities for teacher development within my department, varying the levels that I teach, focusing on certain areas of my teaching that I feel are weaker than others (last year I set out to improve my knowledge about the teaching of writing). I know a number of people who keep reflective diaries/blogs. And I go to workshops and courses held at my college.
           
          Diarmuid


          >>> "mojca_belak" <mojca.belak@...> 09/25/06 11:04 am >>>

          Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
          I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

          There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
          people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
          are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
          beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
          THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

          Regards

          Mojca


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        • Maria de los Angeles
          Hi Mojca: I don t know where you are from and the context you teach so I am not sure my answer will really somehow help you. I think that if what you are
          Message 4 of 6 , Sep 25, 2006
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            Hi Mojca:
             
            I don't know where you are from and the context you teach so I am not sure my answer will really somehow help you.
             
            I think that if what you are looking for some professional development, courses meant for that (at least the ones in my country - Argentina) make no difference between native and non-native teachers of English since this distinction seems not to be relevant in the field of methods and education in general. Nowadays, I am about to finish a one and a half -year university course where I have had subjects such as Literature, Educational Research, Discourse Analysis among others and I guess both native and non-native teachers of English can profit from all this; in fact nothing is stated in the requirements for enrollment in such respect.
             
            Hope you find this humble contribution useful
             
            Best regards,
            Maria de los Angeles  Rodr√≠guez
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:04 AM
            Subject: [SPAM][TDSIG] A burning question

            Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
            I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

            There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
            people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
            are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
            beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
            THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

            Regards

            Mojca

          • Maria Nilce
            Hi, Mojca, Have you tried taking a CELTA/ ICELT or even a DELTA? I think Native Speakers are welcome! M Nilce (Brazil) ... From: Maria de los Angeles To:
            Message 5 of 6 , Sep 25, 2006
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              Hi, Mojca,
              Have you tried taking a CELTA/ ICELT or even a DELTA? I think Native Speakers are welcome!
              M Nilce
              (Brazil)
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              Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM
              Subject: Re: [TDSIG] A burning question

              Hi Mojca:
               
              I don't know where you are from and the context you teach so I am not sure my answer will really somehow help you.
               
              I think that if what you are looking for some professional development, courses meant for that (at least the ones in my country - Argentina) make no difference between native and non-native teachers of English since this distinction seems not to be relevant in the field of methods and education in general. Nowadays, I am about to finish a one and a half -year university course where I have had subjects such as Literature, Educational Research, Discourse Analysis among others and I guess both native and non-native teachers of English can profit from all this; in fact nothing is stated in the requirements for enrollment in such respect.
               
              Hope you find this humble contribution useful
               
              Best regards,
              Maria de los Angeles  Rodr√≠guez
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:04 AM
              Subject: [SPAM][TDSIG] A burning question

              Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
              I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

              There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
              people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
              are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
              beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
              THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

              Regards

              Mojca

            • BREWSTER, Jean Mabel
              Dear Mojca, I m sure a lot of teachers, native and non-native alike, update their skills and knowledge doing Masters degree courses in ELT/TESOL /App
              Message 6 of 6 , Sep 27, 2006
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                Dear Mojca,

                I'm sure a lot of teachers, native and non-native alike, update their skills
                and knowledge doing Masters degree courses in ELT/TESOL /App linguistics;
                Content based teaching and the like. I taught on several Masters at Thames
                Valley University, Ealing London and Nottingham University and many teachers
                report either having their ideas and practice 'confimed' or are stimulated
                to try out new ideas and apply theories. Many MAs these days are on -line,
                with or without a face-to-face component. Look some up on the Internet.

                Best wishes,

                Jean Brewster PhD
                Dept of English
                Hong Kong Institute of Education

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                Taylor, Linda
                Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:46 PM
                To: TDSIG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [TDSIG] A burning question


                In my experience they attend short events or they do professional training
                such as DELTA or the new Level 4 government endorsed certificate for ESOL
                subject specialists.

                -----Original Message-----
                From: TDSIG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TDSIG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                mojca_belak
                Sent: 25 September 2006 11:05
                To: TDSIG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [TDSIG] A burning question


                Hello everybody! I'm the newest member in the group.
                I have this question and would really like to know what others think.

                There are lots of teacher training courses around aimed at refreshing
                people's methodology and the like. But in my experience these courses
                are attended by non-native speaker teachers of English only, so I'm
                beginning to wonder WHERE NATIVE SPEAKER TEACHERS OF ENGISH REFRESH
                THEIR TEACHING. Surely not at conferences only?

                Regards

                Mojca






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