Re: [Synoptic-L] Why not Mt used Lk?
My reconstruction implies no particular elapsed time. In fact a compressed time frame would make it more likely that Mt and Lk would have a stage 3 document (collected sayings that had not been placed into any thematic order) at their disposal.
Rev. Chuck Jones
Chuck Jones wrote:
> It seems to me that a natural trajectory of gathering and retaining memoriesBruce replied:
> from the career of Jesus would be something like (1) the community told,
> retold and created stories about the sayings and deeds of Jesus, (2) they
> began to write the stories down, (3) the stories were gathered into
> collections, (4) at some point those collections were arranged thematically,
> and then (4), evidently with Mark, they were arranged into a career/life-of
> narrative framework.
> If Mt and Lk drew from a document produced at stage (3), is it fair to call
> that document a mess?
I'm not happy with your trajectory, for it seems to me to demand a leisurely
timescale which would not fit into the time available. Don't forget that
Paul had met Peter, and Mark was probably written less than ten years after
Paul's death. Another problem is that the death and destruction associated
with the Jewish rebellion would have cut across any chain of oral tradition.
Finally another barrier becomes apparent when we take together the fact that
Paul showed relatively little interest in the sayings of Jesus, and the fact
that Pauline Christianity rapidly became the norm. It seems to me that the
only way a large number of Jesus' sayings could have been reliably
transmitted to posterity is if the twelve committed them to writing before
ca. 60 CE whilst Jerusalem was at peace (which indeed is just what I am
proposing). Furthermore I would expect them to put in the requisite
expertise and effort to make a good job of it right from the start, once
they had decided that Jesus' return was not quite so imminent as to make the
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