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Re: [Synoptic-L] 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script

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  • Horace Jeffery Hodges
    Mark, thanks for posting that. It fills in the gaps. Jeffery Hodges ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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      Mark, thanks for posting that. It fills in the gaps.

      Jeffery Hodges

      On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Mark Goodacre <Goodacre@...> wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > "Ariel Shisha-Halevy, Professor of Linguistics at Hebrew University,
      > Jerusalem, was sent those high resolution digital photographs, a
      > transcription of the fragment, and (with the permission of the editors
      > of Harvard Theological Review) a copy of the third reviewer�s detailed
      > evaluation, and was asked to offer his judgement about the fragment�s
      > authenticity with regard to his area of expertise, Coptic linguistics"
      > (from King's draft article at
      >
      > http://www.hds.harvard.edu/sites/hds.harvard.edu/files/attachments/faculty-research/research-projects/the-gospel-of-jesuss-wife/29865/King_JesusSaidToThem_draft_0920.pdf
      > ). All best, Mark
      >
      > On 21 September 2012 15:51, Horace Jeffery Hodges
      > <horacejeffery@...> wrote:
      > > I'm at my home computer now and can provide a link to the *NYT* article
      > > that cites Shisha-Halevi:
      > >
      > >
      > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/historian-says-piece-of-papyrus-refers-to-jesus-wife.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www
      > >
      > > Ariel Shisha-Halevy, an eminent Coptic linguist at Hebrew University in
      > > Jerusalem, was consulted, and said in an e-mail in September, �I believe
      > --
      > > on the basis of language and grammar -- the text is authentic.�
      > >
      > > Unclear is whether he held the actual fragment in his hands. He may only
      > > have seen a photo.
      > >
      > > Jeffery Hodges
      > >
      > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Jack Kilmon <jkilmon@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > >> **
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> If Ariel Shisha-Halevi thinks it genuine, that is good enough for me. He
      > >> has held it in his hands and that makes all the difference.
      > >>
      > >> Jack Kilmon
      > >>
      > >> -----Original Message-----
      > >> From: Horace Jeffery Hodges
      > >> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:53 PM
      > >> To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > >> Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th
      > Century
      > >> script
      > >>
      > >> Shisha-Halevy, a Coptic expert at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, has
      > >> examined the fragment and considers it genuine. I don't know his
      > reasons,
      > >> however.
      > >>
      > >> Jeffery Hodges
      > >>
      > >> Ewha Womans University
      > >>
      > >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Jack Kilmon <jkilmon@...>
      > >> wrote:
      > >>
      > >> > **
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > A papyrus fragment that is cut with scissors, unprovenanced and an
      > >> > anonymous
      > >> > owner. The non-scribal Coptic hand is the worst I have ever seen. I
      > will
      > >> > wait for the forensic and paleographic examination before putting the
      > >> seal
      > >> > of certainty on my conclusion this is a fake.
      > >> >
      > >> > Jack Kilmon
      > >> >
      > >> > -----Original Message-----
      > >> > From: Greg Crawford
      > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:55 AM
      > >> > To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > >> > Subject: RE: [Synoptic-L] 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th
      > Century
      > >> > script
      > >> >
      > >> > How does one decide that a fragment of papyrus 4 x 8 cms is part of a
      > >> > "Gospel"?
      > >> > Or is anything that mentions Jesus a "Gospel" these days?
      > >> >
      > >> > Greg Crawford
      > >> >
      > >> > From: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Synoptic@yahoogroups.com] On
      > >> > Behalf
      > >> > Of
      > >> > David Inglis
      > >> > Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 1:48 AM
      > >> > To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > >> > Subject: [Synoptic-L] 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century
      > >> > script
      > >> >
      > >> > Anyone know any more about this?
      > >> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19645273
      > >> >
      > >> > David Inglis, Lafayette, CA, 94549, USA
      > >> >
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