RE: [Synoptic-L] The Achilles heel of the Farrer Theory?
- To: Synoptic
In Response To: Ron
On: Mt Doublets
I had said that Mt/Lk bidirectionality was really the only evidence for Q.
Ron has reminded me that . . .
Ron: Schnelle and Fleddermann, to name but two, still think the
(source) doublets constitute important evidence.
Bruce: Right. Fleddermann in his book gives them more space than he devotes
to bidirectionality. But to repeat my clarification question to Joe Weaks,
would you mind citing one example of a "source" doublet (I waive the fact
that the label prejudges the interpretation) that you find especially
E Bruce Brooks
Warring States Project
University of Massachusetts at Amherst
- Jeffrey Gibson wrote:
> How do you know for certain that 1 Cor 1:22 is an allusion to Mt 12:39Jeffrey,
> // Mt 16:4 c.f. Mk 8:12? After all, as we see in Josephus, "Jews"
> /did/ seek "signs". So Paul may be making a statement about his
> co-religionists that is based upon his experience/knowledge of them
> rather than upon anything Jesus said, just as his statement about what
> Greeks seek is based upon his experience of Greek culture and not
> anything Jesus said.
I don't know for certain.
But there are two arguments that indicate a *probable* link.
The first involves the immediate context. 1 Cor 1:21-22 includes 'SOFIAS
..... KHRUGMATOS ..... IOUDAIOI SHMEIA AITOUSIN .....',
with which we can compare the logia saying C5 (c.f. Q 11:29-32):
'... H GENEA AUTH ... SHMEION ZHTEI ..... SOFIAN ..... KHRUGMA .....'
Thus we have Jews (implicit in the original context of "this generation")
requesting signs, and we have wisdom and preaching, all three together in
both Paul and the logia.
The second involves the wider context of 1 Cor chs. 1-4. This contains a
cluster of apparent allusions to the logia.
In addition to 1:21-22 there is 1:26-29 in which Paul wrote "consider your
call" followed by the threefold repetition of "not many" and "God chose"
(c.f. the logia saying C2, Mt 22:14).
Then 1 Cor 2:4 refers to PEIQOIS SOFIAS LOGOIS (persuasive words of wisdom),
which aptly describes the whole collection of wisdom sayings attributed to
Then there are several echoes of the logia: laying a foundation (1 Cor
3:10-13, c.f. saying A22 'Rock/sand'); being filled, becoming rich and
reigning (1 Cor 4:8, c.f. saying A1, Blessings); when reviled we bless (1
Cor 4:12, c.f. saying A8 about loving enemies); kingdom of God associated
with power (EN DUNAMEI, 1 Cor 4:20, c.f. saying C12, Mk 9:1). [For the first
three of these Paul/synoptic echoes I am indebted to the section "Paul and
Q" in Allison's "The Jesus Tradition in Q". Dale Allison surveys several
possible links, but in the end is not convinced.]
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