RE: [XTalk] OT: What "those in the pew" think they are praying for
Comments below. And based on lots of teaching of the Lord's Prayer. And I might note most recently in a highly educated congregation where I asked, as I often do, what the first three petitions mean:
>What they think they are praying for when they say "May your name beI actually don't think most people even think it says "may your name be hallowed" They think this is a simple statement of fact. "Hallowed be thy name" means, for most, "your name is holy"
>hallowed" is either that God will act in such a way that everyone
>will recognize him for the holy being that he is or, working from
>the impression that "to be hallowed" means "to be praised", that
>all everyone, and not just Christians, will eventually give him the
>honour and respect and the kinds of worship he deserves.
> What they think they are praying for when they say "May your kingdomAgain, I don't see most translating the KJV or RSV or NRSV to "may your kingdom come". For them the term "thy kingdom come" is either:
>come" is either a profound inner personal and individualized
>experience of God's love, forgiveness, or empowering presence or it
>is the hurrying of God's establishment on earth of something that
>they have been taught properly belongs to the world's future -- a
> promised end of all earthly misery and injustice, a reign of peace
>and well being, the experience of heaven on earth.
a. Your kingdom is coming
b. Your kingdom has come.
Mark A. Matson