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  • lmbarre@gmail.com
    Jan 2, 2013
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      Well, my evidence for pMark argues that he did. Evidence, I think, that
      simply has been overlooked and which simply faded with time. There was a
      time, when the theory of "Ur-Markus" was in vogue, mostly in German
      scholarship. Indeed, some solutions to the the Synoptic Problem at one time
      included pMark.

      As for the list, the evidence has been presented, and I would be gratified
      to see someone meet my arguments.

      There is also the literary-critical work of PN, which does not seem to have
      filtered beyond it. This is something I need to look into further.

      LM Barré
      -------Original Message-------

      From: Chuck Jones
      Date: 1/2/2013 4:48:06 PM
      To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] A case for pMark


      I agree with that, LM. But I think I am one of very few on this list that
      takes the position that Mk worked from sources as did Mt and Lk.

      Chuck

      Rev. Chuck Jones
      Atlanta, Georgia

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:10 PM, "lmbarre@..." <lmbarre@...> wrote:

      > Yes, but if Mark did expand pMark, he is very much like Mt and Lk.
      >
      > LM Barré
      >
      >
      > -------Original Message-------
      >
      > From: Chuck Jones
      > Date: 1/2/2013 12:11:31 PM
      > To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] A case for pMark
      >
      >
      > Richard,
      >
      > Thanks for your insight--this is why I asked for clarification. I struggle
      > with terminology here. By "free composed" I didn't mean "made up from his
      > imagination;" but rather that he did not act as a writer-editor as Mt and
      Lk
      > did.
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Chuck
      >
      > Rev. Chuck Jones
      > Atlanta, Georgia
      >
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      > From: Richard Godwin <meta@...>
      > To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:58 AM
      > Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] A case for pMark
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      > Not free composed, but rather based on tradition. Since probably there
      were
      > different traditions during this time of the following generation of
      > followers, this might be considered only one of the traditions, not
      > necessarily the "best." Your logical fallacy overlooks that lack of a
      claim
      > does not support an opposite claim. I don't think Ron intended a complete
      > presentation there.
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Chuck Jones
      > To: Synoptic@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:29 AM
      > Subject: Re: [Synoptic-L] A case for pMark
      >
      > Ron,
      >
      > Excellent comments. This snip caught my eye due to its minimalism--you
      wrote
      >
      >
      > "Of course the gospel story is built on a core of historical events, but
      as
      > I see it the evidence indicates that Mark had only one written source
      > document originating in the first century, namely a collection of
      aphorisms
      > attributed to Jesus. This collection has a patristic mention, a
      > distinguishable literary style, and a clear Sitz im Leben."
      >
      > Are you saying that Mark free-composed everything in his gospel except for
      > the (handful of) aphorisms? He composed the parables, for example? And all
      > of the scenes, characters and dialogue in the passion narrative?
      >
      > I'd appreciate hearing more about your thoughts on this.
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Chuck
      >
      > Rev. Chuck Jones
      > Atlanta, Georgia
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