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  • ...discussion of Synoptic Gospels. The Excavating Q seminar is now closed. -------------------------------------- Dr Mark Goodacre mailto:M.S.Goodacre@^$1 Dept of Theology tel: +44 121 414 7512 University of Birmingham fax: +44 121 414 6866 Birmingham B15 2TT United Kingdom http...
    Mark Goodacre Nov 10, 2000
  • This is the final message and response for the ExQ Seminar. I'd like to express by deep gratitude to Mark Goodacre and Stephen Carlson for all of the work that they've done in arranging the seminar in the first place and in moderating everything so well. I appreciate very much the conversation, the kind words that some of you have had, and the challenges that you all have offered...
    John Kloppenborg Nov 10, 2000
  • Dear Prof. Kloppenborg Verbin, Many thanks for the thorough review of the evidence from which Sanders argued that, contrary to the consensus, Matthew and Mark do on occasion agree in order against Mark -- and also for the useful tabular summary of Sanders's evidence. I agree that pericopae differently placed in all three Synoptics, along with those relocated from their Marcan...
    Jeff Peterson Nov 9, 2000
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  • Prof. Kloppenborg, Re the historical Jesus, I fully agree with your position that literary history cannot be used as any simple indicator of historicity (just because it's early doesn't mean it's authentic Jesus material and just because it's late doesn't mean it's inauthentic). But that does not entail that the stratification of Q into earlier and later layers cannot be a rough...
    Robert J. Miller Nov 9, 2000
  • Robert J. Miller writes: Prof. Kloppenborg, Please, Bob--Dear John! RJM: Re the historical Jesus, I fully agree with your position that literary history cannot be used as any simple indicator of historicity (just because it's early doesn't mean it's authentic Jesus material and just because it's late doesn't mean it's inauthentic). But that does not entail that the stratification...
    John Kloppenborg Nov 9, 2000
  • Jeff Peterson writes: JP: I agree that pericopae differently placed in all three Synoptics, along with those relocated from their Marcan context by one Evangelist and omitted by the other, do not constitute proof of a direct literary relationship between Mt and Lk (though FWIW they do qualify the common assessment that the Marcan order is _always_ followed by at least one of the...
    John Kloppenborg Nov 8, 2000
  • Kevin Johnson asks about the the similarities and differences between Q and the Gospel of Thomas? This is a very big question, and I'm not sure where to begin or where to end. When I began FORMATION I had thought that GThom would play a much bigger role in the discussion of Q's literary history and genre than in the end it did. This is because (a) I rejected Koester's procedure of...
    John Kloppenborg Nov 7, 2000
  • Mark Goodacre, who is "not yet fully persuaded of the existence of Q" inquires about my argument on p. 41 on Luke's general failure to reproduce features of Matthew which, on the 2DH and FGH, Matthew has added to Mark. He asks the hypothetical question, if Luke *had* included Matthew's additions to Mark, how would advocates of the 2DH treat this. The question is a bit moot, since...
    John Kloppenborg Nov 7, 2000
  • First of all I would like to thank Mark Goodacre and Stephen Carlson for hosting the seminar and Prof. Kloppenborg Verbin for participating in it. I am enjoying it very much. I have a question for Prof. Kloppenborg Verbin and it is simply this - In your view, what are some of the similarities and differences between Q and the Gospel of Thomas? Regards, - Kevin Johnson This is the...
    Kevin Johnson Nov 7, 2000
  • ...t you have done the same if you were Luke? With many thanks Mark -------------------------------------- Dr Mark Goodacre mailto:M.S.Goodacre@^$1 Dept of Theology tel: +44 121 414 7512 University of Birmingham fax: +44 121 414 6866 Birmingham B15 2TT United Kingdom http...
    Mark Goodacre Nov 6, 2000