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  • sidewaysgaze
    Well that sucks about Yahoo deleting your restaurant reviews! I keep wondering whether it was a good idea to put my music fanzine here at Yahoo Groups, but at
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      Well that sucks about Yahoo deleting your restaurant reviews!  I keep wondering whether it was a good idea to put my music fanzine here at Yahoo Groups, but at the time it was free and a sorta easy to use space...
       
      Okay, sorry to continue the Suede thread, but do you want to know how crazy I was for Suede way back when?  Well, let me tell you... I was at a Goodwill and they had a laminated magazine cover (Sky magazine?) and Brett was on the cover - and I bought it!!  Well, it was only $1, but I bought it... and still have it to this day, somewhere amid my other music-related uncollectibles...
       
      I'm usually the opposite where I don't like to decipher all the lyrics and meanings behind a song.  Too much thought involved.  LOL
       
      Oh, yes, I know.  I don't know why Bloody Knives is pushing the violent titles and imagery... If I get around to writing up a review, I might make mention of that, because to me it's off-putting, although not enough to not listen to the music.
       
      Must run - thanks for your comments!  :D
       
      Jen
       
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      From: thrillracer1 <thrillracer@...>
      To: Stratosphere_Fanzine <Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2013 1:32 am
      Subject: [Stratosphere_Fanzine] Re: Bloodsports by Suede, Morrissey, Bloody Knives, QOTSA...

       
      Yahoo is insane the way it fails to appreciate people's contributions. I noticed sometimes they delete my Yahoo Local restaurant reviews when they should be grateful that anyone uses it since most people use Yelp and Yahoo Local doesn't always work on all computers. Yes, Satan rejected Mozzer's soul and mine.

      I think I don't go for music that has swamped out vocals because I pay so much attention to the lyrics and psycho-analyze the writer/singer.

      "Peeling Back the Skin" is such a gross song title. I'm too squeemish. That's why I didn't go into the medical field. I'm sure if I had wanted to be a nurse I would have had no problem finding work. But it would be gross.

      --- In Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com, jdloc4@... wrote:
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      > You make a good point about Morrissey's songs and how it's the melodies, lyrics, and his voice that make it, and usually not the musical accompaniment. I guess that's why I prefer The Smiths over solo Morrissey though; because the band (mainly Johnny Marr) added that prime musical element to it all...
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      > It's interesting you mention the sound swamping the vocals and I think that's why some people aren't into the shoegazer style of music, which usually features distorted/swirling guitars that drown out the singer's vocals.
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      > I was just listening to a band out of Austin called Bloody Knives. The band's sound is self-described as punk/industrial/shoegazer, etc... and I'm loving about 4 out of 6 songs on the new Death EP (streaming on AOL Spinner through Friday). But you can barely hear a word the singer is singing!
      > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebloodyknives
      > The awesomely dreamy and distorted "Peeling Back the Skin" at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4GqPy3Bs50 (I haven't watched the video yet; looks too bloody...)
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      > Yes about Brett and his addiction. I didn't include that in my Suede album review because I really haven't read about that online and don't know the history of it all. I also didn't think I needed that kind of info in my review, although his usage obviously affected him and the other band members and consequently the music...
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      > So Morrissey wrote "Satan Rejected My Soul", right? Well, Yahoo! Contributor Network rejected my Queens Of The Stone Age news blurb I sent them about the band's upcoming album. They don't want that kind of material... :( So I submitted to Delusions Of Adequacy...
      > "My God Is The Sun" (audio only) video at YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90obSa1Az4
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      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: thrillracer1 <thrillracer@...>
      > To: Stratosphere_Fanzine <Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 4:06 pm
      > Subject: [Stratosphere_Fanzine] Re: My Album Review of Bloodsports by Suede is up at Adequacy.net.
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      > Interesting interview with Brett Anderson. I didn't know he was a crack addict, but I did always get the impression he was tripping. Funny he's living a conformist lifestyle now with the wife and kids. 3 of his solo albums didn't make the Top 100, but reforming suede did the trick? Perhaps there was very little marketing of his solo albums. I only heard anything about them via Stratosphere. He should have done a paid sponsorship with Stratosphere. Funny that the drummer was living in Bangkok and was willing to reform the band. The bassist was driving a van. Maybe he got burnt out on music for awhile.
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      > I agree with you about some bands changing their sounds. Sometimes they just get a little too fancy, like Radiohead, for example. Morrissey got insecure about critics thinking he was weak and fragile, so he had to get the band going more aggressively. But for me, the backing music for Morrissey isn't that big of a deal because what makes those songs are the vocal melodies and lyrics. Morrissey is actually a melody specialist and deserves more credit for that. I think the music has to be somewhat generic or there won't be room for clever melodies.
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      > --- In Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com, jdloc4@ wrote:
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      > > Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, I guess some things haven't changed from 1993 to 2013 - some good, some bad. I wasn't sure how into Suede you were at the time - and now. It's funny, but I usually like it when a band sticks to its original sound and doesn't change a whole lot; most people disagree, I think, and like it when a band explores new sonic territory. Well, I guess it depends on the artist. I didn't like it when Slowdive got all ambient and more instrumental, when Catherine Wheel got too slick and commercial-sounding, and when Blur defined/refined its sound from trippy, guitar-driven alt-rock (Leisure) to champion and chronicler of the British way of life (all the rest of the band's albums). Oh, or when Morrissey went all rock-band-riffs aggression with his gang of boys...I mean, band members. It was like he was trying to trample over the melancholic sensitivity (and arch wit) of his previous work.
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      > > Ah, so I guess we're all getting older, but some of us still cling to the past via favorite artists - like Suede! LOL
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      > > Speaking of Suede, and Brett Anderson, here is the link to a recent interview with Brett. It fills in the historical cracks of and reaffirms my own review of Suede's new album:
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      > > http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/back-in-black-brett-anderson-on-britpop-blowups-going-solo-and-the-triumphant-return-of-suede-8567687.html
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      > > Jen
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      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: thrillracer1 <thrillracer@>
      > > To: Stratosphere_Fanzine <Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 6:42 pm
      > > Subject: [Stratosphere_Fanzine] Re: My Album Review of Bloodsports by Suede is up at Adequacy.net.
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      > > Nice blast to the past through early 90s brit-pop music marketing. Now if only I knew to not waste money on expensive CDs and instead save it for the lean season (AKA, the future wherein wealth disparity gets worse, sexism is still in full force, but you can get music for free.) I got into suede after Morrissey covered "My Insatiable One" and made them seem mysterious and fun. (What a weird song about a retard in a leotard pooping paracetemol, as if I even knew what that was.) But after awhile they wore thin reusing phrases like "hired car", not evolving their sound, and the hedonistic undertones made them seem superficial. Morrissey complained that they tried to steal his audience. Funny. You inspired another blast to the past where I decided to research a suede fan who used to e-mail me back then. He had admitted to being a nerdy guy then, but now is proudly fat and married, yet still a suede fan. Here's a little tweet I found:
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      > > Adam J Ostermann Esq @heyheyadamo 22 Jun 11
      > > Enjoyed my Dad's Day gift for the 1st time today. Guessing very few other dads got the 2CD/1DVD re-issue of Suede's debut album, though.
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      > > I have to admit I was intrigued about the "Esq" after his name, but he is definitely not a member of the bar. I checked the Wisconsin state bar page. Oh well!
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      > > --- In Stratosphere_Fanzine@yahoogroups.com, "sidewaysgaze" <jdloc4@> wrote:
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      > > > It's long 'n' detailed 'n' hopefully a nostalgic romp to read. Let me know what you think of it!! "Hunky-dory Bloodsports heralds the welcome return of the British band after a 10-year absence from the music scene."
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      > > > http://www.adequacy.net/2013/04/suede-bloodsports/
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      > > > Not sure why it took a couple of weeks or so to get posted, but at least it's there now.
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      > > > I'd love to get some feedback on it - constructive criticism appreciated if need be. I know I overkilled the word "with" throughout the review. I realized that upon belated reading of the review... :0
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      > > > Jen
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