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  • James Bair
    Oct 17, 2013
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      There is an additional use of the term dutch roll that refers to a rudder and aileron coordination exercise intended to demonstrate proper rudder usage while rolling.  It is a very common student training maneuver.
      Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:21 PM
      Subject: Re: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group RE: A starting point


      here is the definition of a dutch roll:

      here is the definition of a barrel roll:

      Generally, you should not be learning either maneuver while learning to fly.

      The dutch roll is a stability problem with air planes
      The barrel roll is a aerobatic maneuver that most air planes are not safe to
      perform (most air planes (other than stunt planes) have prohibitions on
      maneuvers that bring the wings and/or nose more than 60 degrees from horizontal.)

      R. Williams

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      From: <abartz@...>
      To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: 16 Oct 2013 20:57:43 -0700
      Subject: Light-Sport Aircraft Yahoo group RE: A starting point

      > Okay, first I
      need to correct my previous post. I learned Dutch rolls,
      > not Barrel
      rolls. So, along with my flight lessons, my terminology
      > is improving as
      > I have 9 hours under my belt at this point, and feel
      > comfortable in all the maneuvers learned so far. I find that
      > the plane is still an anxious moment for me. In fact, I dread
      > moment. Maybe Im over-thinking the process. Seems like a lot of
      > information being processed at the same time. We did some touch and
      > goes today which seem to help Hopefully by the time I am ready to
      > solo, it clicks.
      > Alan
      > So Cal
      > Hemet
      Ryan Flight School
      > SkyCatcher 162
      > ---In
      sport_aircraft@yahoogroups.com, <rk911@...> wrote:
      > alan,
      my first attempt at taxiing was something for the books. it was
      pretty. don't know what you're training in but once you get the
      hang of it
      it'll be second nature to you. just remember not to taxi
      faster than a
      brisk walk and be sure to orient the ailerons properly
      for the wind. you'll
      be fine. I still remember the first time I was
      allowed to take off...what a
      > '73,
      > rich,
      > If you think women are the weaker sex just try pulling the
      > back to
      your side.
      Today was my
      > second time
      up. The week dragged by with much anticipation for
      > I read my
      student book cover to cover twice, took notes for
      > I wanted
      to ask, filled in all the blanks according to the
      aircraft I
      > am
      studying in, and went through every normal procedure in my
      > for
      the week.
      > This morning I got to do the pre flight, taxi,
      run-up, and TAKE-OFF
      > under my
      own control. What a rush!
      > Once up I learned rudder and aileron control to make 30 degree turns,
      > and
      barrel maneuvers while pointed at a fixed point to keep the plane
      > in line.
      This took a few tries, but then I was able to coordinate the
      > foot pedals
      with the stick and kept it pointing straight through the
      > maneuver.
      The time flew by (quite literally) and before I knew it, I
      > was instructed to
      head back to the airport and make our decent. My
      > instructor took over and
      brought us in for the final and landing.
      > I am looking forward to next week! I
      hope I can at least follow the
      > yellow
      line by then while taxiing. That seems the hardest part so far.
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