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  • john_s_colton
    Hi all, I ve used Spectrum Lab for several years now in an introductory physics class I teach. Earlier this year I upgraded my computer. The new one runs
    Message 1 of 27 , Oct 12, 2012
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      Hi all,

      I've used Spectrum Lab for several years now in an introductory physics class I teach. Earlier this year I upgraded my computer. The new one runs Windows 7, if that matters. Today was the first time I tried reinstalling Spectrum Lab (latest version looks very nice!) and unfortunately I'm getting no audio output at all.

      I get this error message:
      SpecLab error #9064
      Error configuring SDR-IQ!

      For now I'm just trying a very basic configuration, such as:
      Quick Settings -> Radio Equipment Tests -> Two Tone Test

      Any thoughts about why the program isn't giving me any audio?

      I was hoping to use this in class on Monday, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
    • wolf_dl4yhf
      Hello John, If you don t use an SDR-IQ, the error message Error configuring SDR-IQ shouldn t be there. If, by chance, one of my test configurations which do
      Message 2 of 27 , Oct 13, 2012
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        Hello John,

        If you don't use an SDR-IQ, the error message "Error configuring SDR-IQ" shouldn't be there.
        If, by chance, one of my test configurations which do use the SDR-IQ has slipped into the installation archive, you will need to re-select the audio devices in SL's main menu, *after* loading the configuration.

        Select "Options"..."Audio settings, I/O device selection".

        What does the program show under "Input device" and "Output device" ?



        Am 12.10.2012 23:40, schrieb john_s_colton:
         

        Hi all,

        I've used Spectrum Lab for several years now in an introductory physics class I teach. Earlier this year I upgraded my computer. The new one runs Windows 7, if that matters. Today was the first time I tried reinstalling Spectrum Lab (latest version looks very nice!) and unfortunately I'm getting no audio output at all.

        I get this error message:
        SpecLab error #9064
        Error configuring SDR-IQ!

        For now I'm just trying a very basic configuration, such as:
        Quick Settings -> Radio Equipment Tests -> Two Tone Test

        Any thoughts about why the program isn't giving me any audio?

        I was hoping to use this in class on Monday, so any help would be greatly appreciated.


      • john_s_colton
        Wolf, Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you ve done on the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I ve used it for
        Message 3 of 27 , Oct 13, 2012
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          Wolf,

          Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!

          Under the audio settings, here's what it shows:

          Input:
          -1 Default WAVE input
          SDR-IQ / SDR-14
          Perseus

          Output:
          -1 Default WAVE output
          0 Remote Audio

          As I started the program again just now, I got the SDR-IQ error again. The input was indeed set for SDR-IQ, which it seems like probably should not have been the case. That may have been my mistake because I tried a bunch of different settings yesterday when it didn't work at first.

          So, I set the input back to "-1 Default WAVE input", which I think is what it probably had originally been set for after I installed the new version of the software yesterday. Still didn't work, and I got this different error message:

          SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen

          Come to think of it, that was probably the original error message I got, rather than the SDR-IQ error that I reported.

          I appreciate any help you can give me. I did get Spectrum Lab to work on my labtop, so I'll probably use that for my class on Monday. I was planning use Spectrum Lab on my laptop on Wednesday anyway, in order to use the microphone.

          John



          --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hello John,
          >
          > If you don't use an SDR-IQ, the error message "Error configuring SDR-IQ"
          > shouldn't be there.
          > If, by chance, one of my test configurations which do use the SDR-IQ has
          > slipped into the installation archive, you will need to re-select the
          > audio devices in SL's main menu, *after* loading the configuration.
          >
          > Select "Options"..."Audio settings, I/O device selection".
          >
          > What does the program show under "Input device" and "Output device" ?
          >
          >
          >
          > Am 12.10.2012 23:40, schrieb john_s_colton:
          > >
          > > Hi all,
          > >
          > > I've used Spectrum Lab for several years now in an introductory
          > > physics class I teach. Earlier this year I upgraded my computer. The
          > > new one runs Windows 7, if that matters. Today was the first time I
          > > tried reinstalling Spectrum Lab (latest version looks very nice!) and
          > > unfortunately I'm getting no audio output at all.
          > >
          > > I get this error message:
          > > SpecLab error #9064
          > > Error configuring SDR-IQ!
          > >
          > > For now I'm just trying a very basic configuration, such as:
          > > Quick Settings -> Radio Equipment Tests -> Two Tone Test
          > >
          > > Any thoughts about why the program isn't giving me any audio?
          > >
          > > I was hoping to use this in class on Monday, so any help would be
          > > greatly appreciated.
          > >
          > >
          >
        • Ken Sejkora
          Hi John,   I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to function ok
          Message 4 of 27 , Oct 13, 2012
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            Hi John,
             
            I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working.  To remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work.  From that point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling rates, etc.  It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function okay despite the error message.
             
            One other thing that several people have reported is that under Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7.  You might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a different directory.  On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various audio programs like SpectrumLab.
             
            Hope this helps. Good luck.
             
            Ken, WB0OCV
            Norton, MA USA
            41.959546N, 71.133996W
            From: john_s_colton <john_colton@...>
            To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
            Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
             
            Wolf,

            Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!

          • john_s_colton
            Ken, Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn t help. Namely, -- I did the restore all factory settings option, and still got the SpecLab error
            Message 5 of 27 , Oct 15, 2012
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              Ken,

              Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,

              --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error message.

              --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location, c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error message.

              And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.

              John


              --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, Ken Sejkora <quickhatch44@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hi John,
              >  
              > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working.  To remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work.  From that point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling rates, etc.  It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function okay despite the error message.
              >  
              > One other thing that several people have reported is that under Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7.  You might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a different directory.  On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various audio programs like SpectrumLab.
              >  
              > Hope this helps. Good luck.
              >  
              > Ken, WB0OCV
              > Norton, MA USA
              > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
              >
              >
              > >________________________________
              > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@...>
              > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
              > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
              > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
              > >
              > > 
              > >Wolf,
              > >
              > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
              > >
              > >
              >
            • wolf_dl4yhf
              Hello John, Can you run Spectrum Lab with the debug -switch in the command line, and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the folder
              Message 6 of 27 , Oct 15, 2012
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                Hello John,

                Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command line, and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an attachment ?

                Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:

                http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log


                I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may help me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" - trouble. The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:

                http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip


                All the best,
                  Wolf .



                Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                 

                Ken,

                Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,

                --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error message.

                --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location, c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error message.

                And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.

                John

                --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, Ken Sejkora <quickhatch44@...> wrote:
                >
                > Hi John,
                >  
                > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working.  To remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work.  From that point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling rates, etc.  It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function okay despite the error message.
                >  
                > One other thing that several people have reported is that under Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7.  You might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a different directory.  On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                >  
                > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                >  
                > Ken, WB0OCV
                > Norton, MA USA
                > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                >
                >
                > >________________________________
                > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@...>
                > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                > >
                > > 
                > >Wolf,
                > >
                > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                > >
                > >
                >


              • john_s_colton
                I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it with the /debug switch. Here s the logfile: 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                Message 7 of 27 , Oct 15, 2012
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                  I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:

                  21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                  21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                  21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                  21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                  21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                  21:06:07.0 init application...
                  21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                  21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                  21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                  21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                  21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                  21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                  21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                  21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                  21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                  21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                  21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                  21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                  21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                  21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                  21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                  21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                  21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                  21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                  21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                  21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                  21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                  21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                  21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                  21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                  21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                  21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                  21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                  21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                  21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                  21:06:08.0 creating command window
                  21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                  21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                  21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                  21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                  21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                  21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                  21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                  21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                  21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                  21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                  21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                  21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                  21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                  21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                  21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                  21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                  21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                  21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                  21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                  21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                  21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                  21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                  21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                  21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                  21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                  21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                  21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                  21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                  21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                  21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                  21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                  21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                  21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                  21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                  21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                  21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                  21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                  21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                  21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                  21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                  21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                  21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                  21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                  21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                  21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                  21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                  21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                  21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                  21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                  21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                  21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                  21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                  21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                  21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                  21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                  21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                  21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                  21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                  21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                  21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                  21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                  21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                  21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                  21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                  21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                  21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                  21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                  21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                  21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                  21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                  21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                  21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                  21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                  21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                  21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                  21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                  21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                  21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                  21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                  21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                  21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                  21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                  21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                  21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                  21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                  21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                  21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                  21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                  21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                  21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                  21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                  21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                  21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                  21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                  21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                  21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                  21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                  21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                  21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                  21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                  21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                  21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                  21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                  21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                  21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                  21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                  21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                  21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                  21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                  21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                  21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                  21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                  21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                  21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                  21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.







                  --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Hello John,
                  >
                  > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command line,
                  > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                  > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an attachment ?
                  >
                  > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                  >
                  > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                  >
                  >
                  > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may help
                  > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" - trouble.
                  > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                  >
                  > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                  >
                  >
                  > All the best,
                  > Wolf .
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                  > >
                  > > Ken,
                  > >
                  > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,
                  > >
                  > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got the
                  > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error
                  > > message.
                  > >
                  > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                  > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program
                  > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of
                  > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                  > >
                  > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                  > >
                  > > John
                  > >
                  > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                  > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                  > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Hi John,
                  > > >
                  > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds
                  > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                  > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                  > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the
                  > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                  > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                  > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling
                  > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll
                  > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function
                  > > okay despite the error message.
                  > > >
                  > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                  > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                  > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7. You
                  > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                  > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                  > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various
                  > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                  > > >
                  > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                  > > >
                  > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                  > > > Norton, MA USA
                  > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > >________________________________
                  > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                  > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                  > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                  > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >Wolf,
                  > > > >
                  > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on
                  > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've
                  > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series
                  > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                • wolf_dl4yhf
                  Hello John, Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of channels, and
                  Message 8 of 27 , Oct 15, 2012
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                    Hello John,

                    Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24  bits per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's audio settings ?

                    Good night,
                       Wolf .

                    Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                     

                    I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:

                    21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                    21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                    21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                    21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                    21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                    21:06:07.0 init application...
                    21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                    21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                    21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                    21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                    21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                    21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                    21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                    21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                    21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                    21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                    21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                    21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                    21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                    21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                    21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                    21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                    21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                    21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                    21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                    21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                    21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                    21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                    21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                    21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                    21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                    21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                    21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                    21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                    21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                    21:06:08.0 creating command window
                    21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                    21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                    21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                    21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                    21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                    21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                    21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                    21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                    21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                    21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                    21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                    21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                    21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                    21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                    21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                    21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                    21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                    21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                    21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                    21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                    21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                    21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                    21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                    21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                    21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                    21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                    21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                    21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                    21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                    21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                    21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                    21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                    21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                    21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                    21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                    21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                    21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                    21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                    21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                    21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                    21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                    21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                    21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                    21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                    21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                    21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                    21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                    21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                    21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                    21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                    21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                    21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                    21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                    21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                    21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                    21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                    21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                    21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                    21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                    21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                    21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                    21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                    21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                    21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                    21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                    21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                    21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                    21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                    21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                    21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                    21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                    21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                    21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                    21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                    21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                    21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                    21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                    21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                    21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                    21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                    21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                    21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                    21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                    21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                    21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                    21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                    21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                    21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                    21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                    21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                    21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                    21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                    21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                    21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                    21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                    21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                    21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                    21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                    21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                    21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                    21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                    21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                    21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                    21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                    21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                    21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                    21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                    21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                    21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                    21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                    21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                    21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                    21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                    21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                    21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.

                    --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Hello John,
                    >
                    > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command line,
                    > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                    > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an attachment ?
                    >
                    > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                    >
                    > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                    >
                    >
                    > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may help
                    > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" - trouble.
                    > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                    >
                    > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                    >
                    >
                    > All the best,
                    > Wolf .
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                    > >
                    > > Ken,
                    > >
                    > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,
                    > >
                    > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got the
                    > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen" error
                    > > message.
                    > >
                    > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                    > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program
                    > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of
                    > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                    > >
                    > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                    > >
                    > > John
                    > >
                    > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                    > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                    > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Hi John,
                    > > >
                    > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds
                    > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                    > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                    > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the
                    > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                    > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                    > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling
                    > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll
                    > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function
                    > > okay despite the error message.
                    > > >
                    > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                    > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                    > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7. You
                    > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                    > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                    > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various
                    > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                    > > >
                    > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                    > > >
                    > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                    > > > Norton, MA USA
                    > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > >________________________________
                    > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                    > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                    > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                    > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                    > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > > >Wolf,
                    > > > >
                    > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on
                    > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've
                    > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier series
                    > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                    > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >


                  • john_s_colton
                    The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing that to 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that. I m not sure how to
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                      The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing that to 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that. I'm not sure how to tell whether it's 1 or 2 channels. Anyway, still no sound when I try to do the two tone test with the function generator.

                      I don't know if this matters, but it doesn't seem to remember those values. That is, I closed SL after making the change, then started it again. Same "audio-device-ID out of range" error, and when I went back to audio settings the sampling rate was back to 11025 Hz.




                      --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Hello John,
                      >
                      > Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the
                      > soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of
                      > channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see
                      > which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess
                      > something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24 bits
                      > per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old
                      > standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's
                      > audio settings ?
                      >
                      > Good night,
                      > Wolf .
                      >
                      > Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                      > >
                      > > I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it
                      > > with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:
                      > >
                      > > 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                      > > 21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                      > > 21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                      > > 21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                      > > 21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                      > > 21:06:07.0 init application...
                      > > 21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                      > > 21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                      > > 21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                      > > 21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                      > > 21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                      > > 21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                      > > 21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                      > > 21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                      > > 21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                      > > 21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                      > > 21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                      > > 21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                      > > 21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                      > > 21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                      > > 21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                      > > 21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                      > > 21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                      > > 21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                      > > 21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                      > > 21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                      > > 21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                      > > 21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                      > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                      > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                      > > 21:06:08.0 creating command window
                      > > 21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                      > > 21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                      > > 21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                      > > 21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                      > > 21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                      > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                      > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                      > > 21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                      > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                      > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                      > > 21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                      > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                      > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                      > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                      > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                      > > 21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                      > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                      > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                      > > 21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                      > > 21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                      > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                      > > 21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                      > > 21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                      > > 21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                      > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                      > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                      > > 21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                      > > 21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                      > > 21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                      > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                      > > 21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                      > > 21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                      > > 21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                      > > 21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                      > > 21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                      > > 21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                      > > 21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                      > > 21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                      > > 21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                      > > 21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                      > > 21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                      > > 21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                      > > 21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                      > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                      > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                      > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                      > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                      > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                      > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                      > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                      > > input
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                      > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                      > > 21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                      > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                      > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                      > > 21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                      > > 21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                      > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                      > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                      > > 21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                      > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                      > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                      > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                      > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                      > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                      > > input
                      > > 21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                      > > 21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                      > > 21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                      > > 21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                      > > 21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                      > > 21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                      > > 21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                      > > 21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                      > > 21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                      > > 21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                      > > 21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                      > > 21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                      > > 21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                      > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                      > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                      > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                      > > 21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                      > > 21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                      > > 21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                      > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                      > > 21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                      > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                      > > 21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                      > > 21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.
                      > >
                      > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                      > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                      > > wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Hello John,
                      > > >
                      > > > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command line,
                      > > > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                      > > > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an attachment ?
                      > > >
                      > > > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                      > > >
                      > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may
                      > > help
                      > > > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" - trouble.
                      > > > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                      > > >
                      > > > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > All the best,
                      > > > Wolf .
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Ken,
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got
                      > > the
                      > > > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen"
                      > > error
                      > > > > message.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                      > > > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program
                      > > > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of
                      > > > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > John
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                      > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                      > > > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Hi John,
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds
                      > > > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                      > > > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                      > > > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the
                      > > > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                      > > > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                      > > > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling
                      > > > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll
                      > > > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function
                      > > > > okay despite the error message.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                      > > > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                      > > > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7. You
                      > > > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                      > > > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                      > > > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various
                      > > > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                      > > > > > Norton, MA USA
                      > > > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > >________________________________
                      > > > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                      > > > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                      > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                      > > > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >Wolf,
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on
                      > > > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've
                      > > > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier
                      > > series
                      > > > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
                    • wolf_dl4yhf
                      Hello John, ... It s on the Audio I/O tab, near the lower left corner. Stereo input checked means two channels, unchecked means one. ... Maybe windows
                      Message 10 of 27 , Oct 17, 2012
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                        Hello John,

                        You wrote:
                         

                        The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing that to 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that. I'm not sure how to tell whether it's 1 or 2 channels.

                        It's on the "Audio I/O" tab, near the lower left corner. "Stereo input" checked means two channels, unchecked means one.

                        Anyway, still no sound when I try to do the two tone test with the function generator.

                        I don't know if this matters, but it doesn't seem to remember those values. That is, I closed SL after making the change, then started it again. Same "audio-device-ID out of range" error, and when I went back to audio settings the sampling rate was back to 11025 Hz.

                        Maybe windows treats the entire directory as "read only", which is very unusual since you installed SL outside of the windows "Programs" folder. You can check this by opening the file 'SETTINGS.INI' in the directory where spectrum lab has been installed. This file is written when SL terminates, to safe the recent settings between two sessions. There should be a section containing something like:

                        [SOUNDCARD]
                        SampleRate=11025

                        You can modify SETTINGS.INI with a text editor (like the stoneage 'notepad'), save it, and restart spectrum lab. Suggestion: replace the above lines by

                        [SOUNDCARD]
                        SampleRate=48000

                        Then start SL again. If windows doesn't play another dirty trick, SL should load the file, and try to initialize the soundcard with 48 kSamples/second. Any reasonably 'new' card will support this sampling rate.

                        Do other programs, for example the old SNDREC32.EXE which is part of windows (XP), work together with your soundcard, and list it as a valid 'wave input' device ?





                        --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Hello John,
                        >
                        > Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the
                        > soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of
                        > channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see
                        > which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess
                        > something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24 bits
                        > per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old
                        > standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's
                        > audio settings ?
                        >
                        > Good night,
                        > Wolf .
                        >
                        > Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                        > >
                        > > I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it
                        > > with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:
                        > >
                        > > 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                        > > 21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                        > > 21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                        > > 21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                        > > 21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                        > > 21:06:07.0 init application...
                        > > 21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                        > > 21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                        > > 21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                        > > 21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                        > > 21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                        > > 21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                        > > 21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                        > > 21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                        > > 21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                        > > 21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                        > > 21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                        > > 21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                        > > 21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                        > > 21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                        > > 21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                        > > 21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                        > > 21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                        > > 21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                        > > 21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                        > > 21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                        > > 21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                        > > 21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                        > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                        > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                        > > 21:06:08.0 creating command window
                        > > 21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                        > > 21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                        > > 21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                        > > 21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                        > > 21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                        > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                        > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                        > > 21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                        > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                        > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                        > > 21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                        > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                        > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                        > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                        > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                        > > 21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                        > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                        > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                        > > 21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                        > > 21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                        > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                        > > 21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                        > > 21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                        > > 21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                        > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                        > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                        > > 21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                        > > 21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                        > > 21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                        > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                        > > 21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                        > > 21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                        > > 21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                        > > 21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                        > > 21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                        > > 21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                        > > 21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                        > > 21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                        > > 21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                        > > 21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                        > > 21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                        > > 21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                        > > 21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                        > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                        > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                        > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                        > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                        > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                        > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                        > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                        > > input
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                        > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                        > > 21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                        > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                        > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                        > > 21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                        > > 21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                        > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                        > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                        > > 21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                        > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                        > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                        > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                        > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                        > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                        > > input
                        > > 21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                        > > 21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                        > > 21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                        > > 21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                        > > 21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                        > > 21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                        > > 21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                        > > 21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                        > > 21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                        > > 21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                        > > 21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                        > > 21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                        > > 21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                        > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                        > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                        > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                        > > 21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                        > > 21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                        > > 21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                        > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                        > > 21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                        > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                        > > 21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                        > > 21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.
                        > >
                        > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                        > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                        > > wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > Hello John,
                        > > >
                        > > > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command line,
                        > > > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                        > > > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an attachment ?
                        > > >
                        > > > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                        > > >
                        > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may
                        > > help
                        > > > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" - trouble.
                        > > > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                        > > >
                        > > > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > All the best,
                        > > > Wolf .
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Ken,
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help. Namely,
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still got
                        > > the
                        > > > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen"
                        > > error
                        > > > > message.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                        > > > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in c:\Program
                        > > > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of
                        > > > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > John
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                        > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                        > > > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Hi John,
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78 builds
                        > > > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                        > > > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                        > > > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option on the
                        > > > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                        > > > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                        > > > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different sampling
                        > > > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above 48000, I'll
                        > > > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to function
                        > > > > okay despite the error message.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                        > > > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                        > > > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows 7. You
                        > > > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                        > > > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                        > > > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install various
                        > > > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                        > > > > > Norton, MA USA
                        > > > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > >________________________________
                        > > > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                        > > > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                        > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                        > > > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >Wolf,
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've done on
                        > > > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I mentioned, I've
                        > > > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier
                        > > series
                        > > > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        >


                      • john_s_colton
                        To respond to the various items: 1. It was set for 1 channel. I tried changing it to 2 channels for kicks; no result. 2. Windows isn t treating the directory
                        Message 11 of 27 , Oct 17, 2012
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                          To respond to the various items:

                          1. It was set for 1 channel. I tried changing it to 2 channels for kicks; no result.

                          2. Windows isn't treating the directory as read only. At least, I was able to edit the .ini file with no problem.

                          3. Changing the .ini file manually so the soundcard settings were 48000 Hz had no effect. Still getting the device ID out of range error. (The 48000 Hz DID show up when I re-opened spectrum lab and looked at audio settings.)

                          4. I don't have Win XP installed, so I didn't have SNDREC32.EXE. I downloaded a version I found on the internet, but I really have no idea if it's the version you're thinking of. Anyway, when I tried to edit the "audio properties" setting, I got this error message: "Error in MMSYS.CPL. Missing entry: ShowAudioPropertSheet". For kicks I tried the Sound Recorder program that came with Windows 7, and that works fine. I also tried Audacity. Works fine. Not sure what else along those lines I should try.

                          Thanks for your continued effort.

                          John


                          --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Hello John,
                          >
                          > You wrote:
                          > >
                          > > The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing that to
                          > > 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that.
                          > > I'm not sure how to tell whether it's 1 or 2 channels.
                          > >
                          > It's on the "Audio I/O" tab, near the lower left corner. "Stereo input"
                          > checked means two channels, unchecked means one.
                          >
                          > > Anyway, still no sound when I try to do the two tone test with the
                          > > function generator.
                          > >
                          > > I don't know if this matters, but it doesn't seem to remember those
                          > > values. That is, I closed SL after making the change, then started it
                          > > again. Same "audio-device-ID out of range" error, and when I went back
                          > > to audio settings the sampling rate was back to 11025 Hz.
                          > >
                          > Maybe windows treats the entire directory as "read only", which is very
                          > unusual since you installed SL outside of the windows "Programs" folder.
                          > You can check this by opening the file 'SETTINGS.INI' in the directory
                          > where spectrum lab has been installed. This file is written when SL
                          > terminates, to safe the recent settings between two sessions. There
                          > should be a section containing something like:
                          >
                          > [SOUNDCARD]
                          > SampleRate=11025
                          >
                          > You can modify SETTINGS.INI with a text editor (like the stoneage
                          > 'notepad'), save it, and restart spectrum lab. Suggestion: replace the
                          > above lines by
                          >
                          > [SOUNDCARD]
                          > SampleRate=48000
                          >
                          > Then start SL again. If windows doesn't play another dirty trick, SL
                          > should load the file, and try to initialize the soundcard with 48
                          > kSamples/second. Any reasonably 'new' card will support this sampling rate.
                          >
                          > Do other programs, for example the old SNDREC32.EXE which is part of
                          > windows (XP), work together with your soundcard, and list it as a valid
                          > 'wave input' device ?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                          > > wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Hello John,
                          > > >
                          > > > Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the
                          > > > soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of
                          > > > channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see
                          > > > which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess
                          > > > something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24 bits
                          > > > per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old
                          > > > standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's
                          > > > audio settings ?
                          > > >
                          > > > Good night,
                          > > > Wolf .
                          > > >
                          > > > Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it
                          > > > > with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 init application...
                          > > > > 21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                          > > > > 21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                          > > > > 21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                          > > > > 21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                          > > > > 21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                          > > > > 21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                          > > > > 21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                          > > > > 21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                          > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                          > > > > 21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                          > > > > 21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                          > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                          > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                          > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating command window
                          > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                          > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                          > > > > 21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                          > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                          > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                          > > > > 21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                          > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                          > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                          > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                          > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                          > > > > 21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                          > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                          > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                          > > > > 21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                          > > > > 21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                          > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                          > > > > 21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                          > > > > 21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                          > > > > 21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                          > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                          > > > > 21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                          > > > > 21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                          > > > > 21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                          > > > > 21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                          > > > > 21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                          > > > > 21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                          > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                          > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                          > > > > 21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                          > > > > 21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                          > > > > 21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                          > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                          > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                          > > > > input
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                          > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                          > > > > 21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                          > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                          > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                          > > > > 21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                          > > > > 21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                          > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                          > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                          > > > > input
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                          > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                          > > > > 21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                          > > > > 21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                          > > > > 21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                          > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                          > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                          > > > > 21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                          > > > > 21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                          > > > > 21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                          > > > > 21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                          > > > > 21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                          > > > > 21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                          > > > > 21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                          > > > > 21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                          > > > > wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Hello John,
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command
                          > > line,
                          > > > > > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                          > > > > > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an
                          > > attachment ?
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may
                          > > > > help
                          > > > > > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" -
                          > > trouble.
                          > > > > > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > All the best,
                          > > > > > Wolf .
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Ken,
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help.
                          > > Namely,
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still
                          > > got
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen"
                          > > > > error
                          > > > > > > message.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                          > > > > > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in
                          > > c:\Program
                          > > > > > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID
                          > > out of
                          > > > > > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > John
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                          > > > > > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > Hi John,
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78
                          > > builds
                          > > > > > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                          > > > > > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                          > > > > > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option
                          > > on the
                          > > > > > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                          > > > > > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                          > > > > > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different
                          > > sampling
                          > > > > > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above
                          > > 48000, I'll
                          > > > > > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to
                          > > function
                          > > > > > > okay despite the error message.
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                          > > > > > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                          > > > > > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows
                          > > 7. You
                          > > > > > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                          > > > > > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                          > > > > > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install
                          > > various
                          > > > > > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                          > > > > > > > Norton, MA USA
                          > > > > > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >________________________________
                          > > > > > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                          > > > > > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                          > > > > > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >Wolf,
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've
                          > > done on
                          > > > > > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I
                          > > mentioned, I've
                          > > > > > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier
                          > > > > series
                          > > > > > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • wolf_dl4yhf
                          Hello John, I tried to reproduce the problem on a number of different PCs / windows versions, but never got a similar problem. I have added some more info in
                          Message 12 of 27 , Oct 25, 2012
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                            Hello John,

                            I tried to reproduce the problem on a number of different PCs / windows versions, but never got a similar problem. I have added some more info in the debug-logfile, but I'm not convinced if this will enable fixing the problem here. Try V2.78 b17 which I have just uploaded to my website, in debug mode.

                            Do other users have problems with their soundcards too, and if yes, which windows version, and which kind of soundcard ?

                            All the best,
                               Wolf .

                            P.S: The interesting fragment from the debug-logfile (debug_run_log.txt) should contain something like this:
                            15:52:31.8 Initialising audio devices..
                            15:52:31.8 InitAudioDevices, IN:  DeviceName='0 SoundMAX HD Audio' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            15:52:31.8 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='0 SoundMAX HD Audio' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            15:52:31.8 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('0 SoundMAX HD Audio'): Enumerating wave-input devices. Windows reports 4 :
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #0 is 'SoundMAX HD Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #1 is 'MSVAD (Simple)', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #2 is 'Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #3 is 'Hochwertiges Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Perfect match for device #0 = 'SoundMAX HD Audio' .
                            15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "SoundMAX HD Audio", ID #0, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                            15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Creating 4 input buffers for 'wave' input
                            15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Successfully opened audio input
                            15:52:32.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=0
                            15:52:32.0 Opening audio device for output
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID('0 SoundMAX HD Audio'): Enumerating wave-output devices. Windows reports 4 :
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #0 is 'SoundMAX HD Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #1 is 'MSVAD (Simple)', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #2 is 'Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #3 is 'Hochwertiges Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                            15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Perfect match for device #0 = 'SoundMAX HD Audio' .
                            15:52:32.0 CSound::OutOpen: Trying to open "SoundMAX HD Audio", ID #0, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for output.
                            15:52:32.0 Back from SoundDev->OutOpen, result=0
                            15:52:32.0 Sound devices started
                            15:52:32.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .

                            Most interesting is the message 'ok for SpecLab' in the lines beginning with 'InputDeviceNameToDeviceID'. This is where spectrum lab enumerates the available audio input devices, and retrieves their properties before trying to open the soundcard for input.





                            Am 18.10.2012 01:24, schrieb john_s_colton:
                             

                            To respond to the various items:

                            1. It was set for 1 channel. I tried changing it to 2 channels for kicks; no result.

                            2. Windows isn't treating the directory as read only. At least, I was able to edit the .ini file with no problem.

                            3. Changing the .ini file manually so the soundcard settings were 48000 Hz had no effect. Still getting the device ID out of range error. (The 48000 Hz DID show up when I re-opened spectrum lab and looked at audio settings.)

                            4. I don't have Win XP installed, so I didn't have SNDREC32.EXE. I downloaded a version I found on the internet, but I really have no idea if it's the version you're thinking of. Anyway, when I tried to edit the "audio properties" setting, I got this error message: "Error in MMSYS.CPL. Missing entry: ShowAudioPropertSheet". For kicks I tried the Sound Recorder program that came with Windows 7, and that works fine. I also tried Audacity. Works fine. Not sure what else along those lines I should try.

                            Thanks for your continued effort.

                            John

                            --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Hello John,
                            >
                            > You wrote:
                            > >
                            > > The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing that to
                            > > 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that.
                            > > I'm not sure how to tell whether it's 1 or 2 channels.
                            > >
                            > It's on the "Audio I/O" tab, near the lower left corner. "Stereo input"
                            > checked means two channels, unchecked means one.
                            >
                            > > Anyway, still no sound when I try to do the two tone test with the
                            > > function generator.
                            > >
                            > > I don't know if this matters, but it doesn't seem to remember those
                            > > values. That is, I closed SL after making the change, then started it
                            > > again. Same "audio-device-ID out of range" error, and when I went back
                            > > to audio settings the sampling rate was back to 11025 Hz.
                            > >
                            > Maybe windows treats the entire directory as "read only", which is very
                            > unusual since you installed SL outside of the windows "Programs" folder.
                            > You can check this by opening the file 'SETTINGS.INI' in the directory
                            > where spectrum lab has been installed. This file is written when SL
                            > terminates, to safe the recent settings between two sessions. There
                            > should be a section containing something like:
                            >
                            > [SOUNDCARD]
                            > SampleRate=11025
                            >
                            > You can modify SETTINGS.INI with a text editor (like the stoneage
                            > 'notepad'), save it, and restart spectrum lab. Suggestion: replace the
                            > above lines by
                            >
                            > [SOUNDCARD]
                            > SampleRate=48000
                            >
                            > Then start SL again. If windows doesn't play another dirty trick, SL
                            > should load the file, and try to initialize the soundcard with 48
                            > kSamples/second. Any reasonably 'new' card will support this sampling rate.
                            >
                            > Do other programs, for example the old SNDREC32.EXE which is part of
                            > windows (XP), work together with your soundcard, and list it as a valid
                            > 'wave input' device ?
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                            > > wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > Hello John,
                            > > >
                            > > > Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the
                            > > > soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of
                            > > > channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see
                            > > > which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess
                            > > > something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24 bits
                            > > > per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old
                            > > > standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's
                            > > > audio settings ?
                            > > >
                            > > > Good night,
                            > > > Wolf .
                            > > >
                            > > > Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I ran it
                            > > > > with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 init application...
                            > > > > 21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                            > > > > 21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                            > > > > 21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                            > > > > 21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                            > > > > 21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                            > > > > 21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                            > > > > 21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                            > > > > 21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                            > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                            > > > > 21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                            > > > > 21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                            > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                            > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                            > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating command window
                            > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                            > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                            > > > > 21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                            > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                            > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                            > > > > 21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                            > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                            > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                            > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                            > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                            > > > > 21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                            > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                            > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                            > > > > 21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                            > > > > 21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                            > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                            > > > > 21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                            > > > > 21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                            > > > > 21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                            > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                            > > > > 21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                            > > > > 21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                            > > > > 21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                            > > > > 21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                            > > > > 21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                            > > > > 21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                            > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                            > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                            > > > > 21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                            > > > > 21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                            > > > > 21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                            > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                            > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                            > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                            > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                            > > > > input
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                            > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                            > > > > 21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                            > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                            > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                            > > > > 21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                            > > > > 21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                            > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                            > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                            > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                            > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                            > > > > input
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                            > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                            > > > > 21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                            > > > > 21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                            > > > > 21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                            > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                            > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                            > > > > 21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                            > > > > 21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                            > > > > 21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                            > > > > 21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                            > > > > 21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                            > > > > 21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                            > > > > 21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                            > > > > 21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                            > > > > wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Hello John,
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command
                            > > line,
                            > > > > > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied from the
                            > > > > > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an
                            > > attachment ?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log, which may
                            > > > > help
                            > > > > > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" -
                            > > trouble.
                            > > > > > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > All the best,
                            > > > > > Wolf .
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Ken,
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help.
                            > > Namely,
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and still
                            > > got
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in SoundInOpen"
                            > > > > error
                            > > > > > > message.
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default location,
                            > > > > > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in
                            > > c:\Program
                            > > > > > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID
                            > > out of
                            > > > > > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > John
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                            > > > > > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > Hi John,
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78
                            > > builds
                            > > > > > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program seems to
                            > > > > > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not working. To
                            > > > > > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings' option
                            > > on the
                            > > > > > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then exited the
                            > > > > > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work. From that
                            > > > > > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different
                            > > sampling
                            > > > > > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above
                            > > 48000, I'll
                            > > > > > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to
                            > > function
                            > > > > > > okay despite the error message.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > One other thing that several people have reported is that under
                            > > > > > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                            > > > > > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows
                            > > 7. You
                            > > > > > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                            > > > > > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a separate
                            > > > > > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install
                            > > various
                            > > > > > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                            > > > > > > > Norton, MA USA
                            > > > > > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > >________________________________
                            > > > > > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                            > > > > > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                            > > > > > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > >Wolf,
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've
                            > > done on
                            > > > > > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I
                            > > mentioned, I've
                            > > > > > > used it for several years to explain Fourier transforms/Fourier
                            > > > > series
                            > > > > > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            >


                          • john_s_colton
                            Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16 http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download John
                            Message 13 of 27 , Oct 25, 2012
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                              Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                              http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download

                              John

                              --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Hello John,
                              >
                              > I tried to reproduce the problem on a number of different PCs / windows
                              > versions, but never got a similar problem. I have added some more info
                              > in the debug-logfile, but I'm not convinced if this will enable fixing
                              > the problem here. Try V2.78 b17 which I have just uploaded to my
                              > website, in debug mode.
                              >
                              > Do other users have problems with their soundcards too, and if yes,
                              > which windows version, and which kind of soundcard ?
                              >
                              > All the best,
                              > Wolf .
                              >
                              > P.S: The interesting fragment from the debug-logfile (debug_run_log.txt)
                              > should contain something like this:
                              > 15:52:31.8 Initialising audio devices..
                              > 15:52:31.8 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='0 SoundMAX HD Audio' ->
                              > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > 15:52:31.8 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='0 SoundMAX HD Audio' ->
                              > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > 15:52:31.8 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('0 SoundMAX HD Audio'): Enumerating
                              > wave-input devices. Windows reports 4 :
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #0 is 'SoundMAX HD Audio',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #1 is 'MSVAD (Simple)',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #2 is 'Bluetooth-Audio',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #3 is 'Hochwertiges
                              > Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Perfect match for device #0 =
                              > 'SoundMAX HD Audio' .
                              > 15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "SoundMAX HD Audio", ID #0,
                              > 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                              > 15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Creating 4 input buffers for 'wave' input
                              > 15:52:32.0 CSound::InOpen: Successfully opened audio input
                              > 15:52:32.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=0
                              > 15:52:32.0 Opening audio device for output
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID('0 SoundMAX HD Audio'):
                              > Enumerating wave-output devices. Windows reports 4 :
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #0 is 'SoundMAX HD Audio',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #1 is 'MSVAD (Simple)',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #2 is 'Bluetooth-Audio',
                              > formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Device #3 is 'Hochwertiges
                              > Bluetooth-Audio', formats=0x000BFFFF, ok for SpecLab
                              > 15:52:32.0 OutputDeviceNameToDeviceID: Perfect match for device #0 =
                              > 'SoundMAX HD Audio' .
                              > 15:52:32.0 CSound::OutOpen: Trying to open "SoundMAX HD Audio", ID #0,
                              > 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for output.
                              > 15:52:32.0 Back from SoundDev->OutOpen, result=0
                              > 15:52:32.0 Sound devices started
                              > 15:52:32.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                              >
                              > Most interesting is the message 'ok for SpecLab' in the lines beginning
                              > with 'InputDeviceNameToDeviceID'. This is where spectrum lab enumerates
                              > the available audio input devices, and retrieves their properties before
                              > trying to open the soundcard for input.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Am 18.10.2012 01:24, schrieb john_s_colton:
                              > >
                              > > To respond to the various items:
                              > >
                              > > 1. It was set for 1 channel. I tried changing it to 2 channels for
                              > > kicks; no result.
                              > >
                              > > 2. Windows isn't treating the directory as read only. At least, I was
                              > > able to edit the .ini file with no problem.
                              > >
                              > > 3. Changing the .ini file manually so the soundcard settings were
                              > > 48000 Hz had no effect. Still getting the device ID out of range
                              > > error. (The 48000 Hz DID show up when I re-opened spectrum lab and
                              > > looked at audio settings.)
                              > >
                              > > 4. I don't have Win XP installed, so I didn't have SNDREC32.EXE. I
                              > > downloaded a version I found on the internet, but I really have no
                              > > idea if it's the version you're thinking of. Anyway, when I tried to
                              > > edit the "audio properties" setting, I got this error message: "Error
                              > > in MMSYS.CPL. Missing entry: ShowAudioPropertSheet". For kicks I tried
                              > > the Sound Recorder program that came with Windows 7, and that works
                              > > fine. I also tried Audacity. Works fine. Not sure what else along
                              > > those lines I should try.
                              > >
                              > > Thanks for your continued effort.
                              > >
                              > > John
                              > >
                              > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                              > > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Hello John,
                              > > >
                              > > > You wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > The default sample rate seems to be 11025 Hz. I tried changing
                              > > that to
                              > > > > 44100 Hz. The default bits per sample was 16, so I left it at that.
                              > > > > I'm not sure how to tell whether it's 1 or 2 channels.
                              > > > >
                              > > > It's on the "Audio I/O" tab, near the lower left corner. "Stereo input"
                              > > > checked means two channels, unchecked means one.
                              > > >
                              > > > > Anyway, still no sound when I try to do the two tone test with the
                              > > > > function generator.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I don't know if this matters, but it doesn't seem to remember those
                              > > > > values. That is, I closed SL after making the change, then started it
                              > > > > again. Same "audio-device-ID out of range" error, and when I went
                              > > back
                              > > > > to audio settings the sampling rate was back to 11025 Hz.
                              > > > >
                              > > > Maybe windows treats the entire directory as "read only", which is very
                              > > > unusual since you installed SL outside of the windows "Programs"
                              > > folder.
                              > > > You can check this by opening the file 'SETTINGS.INI' in the directory
                              > > > where spectrum lab has been installed. This file is written when SL
                              > > > terminates, to safe the recent settings between two sessions. There
                              > > > should be a section containing something like:
                              > > >
                              > > > [SOUNDCARD]
                              > > > SampleRate=11025
                              > > >
                              > > > You can modify SETTINGS.INI with a text editor (like the stoneage
                              > > > 'notepad'), save it, and restart spectrum lab. Suggestion: replace the
                              > > > above lines by
                              > > >
                              > > > [SOUNDCARD]
                              > > > SampleRate=48000
                              > > >
                              > > > Then start SL again. If windows doesn't play another dirty trick, SL
                              > > > should load the file, and try to initialize the soundcard with 48
                              > > > kSamples/second. Any reasonably 'new' card will support this
                              > > sampling rate.
                              > > >
                              > > > Do other programs, for example the old SNDREC32.EXE which is part of
                              > > > windows (XP), work together with your soundcard, and list it as a valid
                              > > > 'wave input' device ?
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                              > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Hello John,
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Thanks for the test. It looks like windows refuses to open the
                              > > > > > soundcard, at least with the parameters (sampling rate, number of
                              > > > > > channels, and number of bits per sample). Unfortunately I cannot see
                              > > > > > which parameters the program uses in the debug logfile. I guess
                              > > > > > something like 48 kSamples/second, 1 or 2 channels, and 16 or 24
                              > > bits
                              > > > > > per sample. Maybe you can try a few other sampling rates, or the old
                              > > > > > standard (44100 samples/seconds, 16 bits per sample, not 24) in SL's
                              > > > > > audio settings ?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Good night,
                              > > > > > Wolf .
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Am 15.10.2012 23:08, schrieb john_s_colton:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > I uninstalled SL, then installed the 2.78 b.17 version. Then I
                              > > ran it
                              > > > > > > with the /debug switch. Here's the logfile:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 Logfile created, date 2012-10-15
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 checking instance...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 Executable: C:\Spectrum\SpecLab.exe
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 Compiled : Oct 15 2012
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 Data Files: C:\Spectrum
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 init application...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.0 creating main form...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 Constructing main form
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising ASIO wrapper
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising SDR-14 / SDR-IQ control
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising PERSEUS control
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 creating CSound object
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 Parsing command line
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 main form constructed
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 Creating main form
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 initialising digimodes
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.1 loading configuration
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.6 initialising I/O driver
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.6 I/O driver initialized
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.6 init audio-processing thread
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.6 Loading frequency list
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Creating frequency markers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 loading colour palette
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Clearing input buffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising help system
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising spectrum display area
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Initialising message handlers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 Created the main form
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.7 creating string-edit dialog
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.8 creating watch window
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating TD-scope window
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.9 created TD-scope window
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.9 created checklist dialog
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                              > > > > > > 21:06:07.9 creating monitor scope
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating command window
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.0 creating filter control form
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 created filter control form
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 creating 2nd spectrogram
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 created 2nd spectrogram
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 going to 'run' the application..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 19
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.1 init timer = 18
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.2 init timer = 17
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 16
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.3 init timer = 15
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.4 init timer = 14
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 13
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.5 init timer = 12
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 11
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.6 init timer = 10
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.7 init timer = 9
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 8
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.8 init timer = 7
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.9 init timer = 6
                              > > > > > > 21:06:08.9 Redirecting message handlers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 5
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.0 Creating sound thread
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.0 Created sound thread
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.0 Back in main..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.0 init timer = 4
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 3
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 opening spectrum buffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 init waterfall preview
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 Buffer-Init done
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 init timer = 2
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 First call of 'MyWindowProc'
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 Survived 1st call of 'MyWindowProc'
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.1 Scanning for plugins..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.2 Plugin-scan done.
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.2 Returning from InitBigBuffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.2 init timer = 1
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.3 init timer = 0
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.3 Updating audio settings..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init upsampling buffer
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.4 Init decimating buffer
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.5 Initialising FFT input buffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.5 Leaving critial section
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.5 Returning from UpdateAudioSettings
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising frequency calibrator
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitFrequencyCalibrator.
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from UpdateAudioSettings .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Initialising audio devices..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                              > > > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                              > > > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio
                              > > device for
                              > > > > > > input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Sound devices started
                              > > > > > > 21:06:09.6 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.3 Launching Sound Thread
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing digimode chunks
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.3 Clearing audio chunks
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.3 Entering audio thread loop
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 Initialising audio devices..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName=-1 ->
                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName=-1 ->
                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open multimedia audio device
                              > > > > > > "-1", device ID #-1, for input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Trying again to open audio device for
                              > > > > > > input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio
                              > > device for
                              > > > > > > input
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 Sound devices started
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.4 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.7 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.8 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:11.9 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:12.0 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:12.2 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:12.3 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:12.4 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:12.5 SndThrd(10288): Input seems to have stopped, why ?
                              > > > > > > 21:06:13.4 Beginning to close ....
                              > > > > > > 21:06:13.4 Closing child forms..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing SDR-IQ..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.2 Closing PERSEUS..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.3 Closing watch/plot forms..
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.3 Terminating audio thread
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.3 SndThd_Terminate
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.3 Waiting for thread termination
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Leaving audio thread loop
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Sound thread terminated 'ok'
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Deleting SOUND_Thd object...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAndDeleteThread()
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.4 Closing SoundDev...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SoundDev...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.6 Deleting SDR14Dev...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting PerseusDev...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing upsampling buffer ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing decimating buffer ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing input decimator ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Closing DAC output buffer ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.7 Deleting FFT-feeding buffers ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.8 Deleting audio chunks ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:14.8 Waiting 2 seconds before deleting buffers...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Waited 2 seconds .
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting 'paired' chunks ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting frequency calibrators ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting external I/O buffers ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Deleting critical section ...
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Returning from SOUND_TerminateAll()
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Unloading filter plugins
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Saving config data
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.8 Terminating CLI
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing buffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum pointers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 spectrum pointers de-allocated
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 de-allocating spectrum buffer
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Closing I/O-port driver
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Destroying COMM window
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting SPECTRUM objects
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Deleting other buffers
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 FormClose done
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Ok, all 79 dynamic memory blocks were freed.
                              > > > > > > 21:06:16.9 Reached last termination step; closing logfile.
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                              > > > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Hello John,
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Can you run Spectrum Lab with the 'debug'-switch in the command
                              > > > > line,
                              > > > > > > > and post the resulting logfile (debug_run_log.txt, copied
                              > > from the
                              > > > > > > > folder where SL was installed) here, or send it to me in an
                              > > > > attachment ?
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Details about how running SL with the '/debug'-switch are here:
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/troubles.htm#debug_run_log
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > I have added a few more info lines for the debugging log,
                              > > which may
                              > > > > > > help
                              > > > > > > > me to find the reason for the "audio-device-ID out of range" -
                              > > > > trouble.
                              > > > > > > > The new version (V2.78 build #17) is at the usual site:
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > http://dl4yhf.ssl7.com/speclab/install_speclab.zip
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > All the best,
                              > > > > > > > Wolf .
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Am 15.10.2012 17:30, schrieb john_s_colton:
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > Ken,
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately they didn't help.
                              > > > > Namely,
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > --> I did the "restore all factory settings" option, and
                              > > still
                              > > > > got
                              > > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > > > "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID out of of range in
                              > > SoundInOpen"
                              > > > > > > error
                              > > > > > > > > message.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > --> I uninstalled it and reinstalled it to the default
                              > > location,
                              > > > > > > > > c:\spectrum (you are correct in assuming I had put it in
                              > > > > c:\Program
                              > > > > > > > > Files before). Still got the "SpecLab error #9157 - device ID
                              > > > > out of
                              > > > > > > > > of range in SoundInOpen" error message.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > And no audio comes out, and nothing appears on the display.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > John
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Sejkora
                              > > > > > > > > <quickhatch44@> wrote:
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > Hi John,
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > I was (and still am) getting error messages in the ver 2.78
                              > > > > builds
                              > > > > > > > > of SpectrumLab above b11 even in Win-XP, but the program
                              > > seems to
                              > > > > > > > > function ok once I get past the inital hiccup in not
                              > > working. To
                              > > > > > > > > remedy the situation, I clicked on the 'Quick Settings'
                              > > option
                              > > > > on the
                              > > > > > > > > menu bar and chose 'Resore all factory settings', then
                              > > exited the
                              > > > > > > > > program, and then came back in, and it seemed to work.
                              > > From that
                              > > > > > > > > point, you can then select different 'usr' setups, different
                              > > > > sampling
                              > > > > > > > > rates, etc. It seems if I select any sampling rate above
                              > > > > 48000, I'll
                              > > > > > > > > get error messages when the program opens, but it seems to
                              > > > > function
                              > > > > > > > > okay despite the error message.
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > One other thing that several people have reported is
                              > > that under
                              > > > > > > > > Windows-7 SpectrumLab should *NOT* be installed in the default
                              > > > > > > > > "Program Files" folder that used to work fine in pre-Windows
                              > > > > 7. You
                              > > > > > > > > might try uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it into a
                              > > > > > > > > different directory. On my Windows-7 notebook I created a
                              > > separate
                              > > > > > > > > directory folder called C:\Audio_Processors\ where I install
                              > > > > various
                              > > > > > > > > audio programs like SpectrumLab.
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. Good luck.
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > Ken, WB0OCV
                              > > > > > > > > > Norton, MA USA
                              > > > > > > > > > 41.959546N, 71.133996W
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > >________________________________
                              > > > > > > > > > >From: john_s_colton <john_colton@>
                              > > > > > > > > > >To: SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:43 PM
                              > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: no audio
                              > > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > >Wolf,
                              > > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > >Hi, thanks for the reply. And thanks for the work you've
                              > > > > done on
                              > > > > > > > > the program, and for making it freely available. As I
                              > > > > mentioned, I've
                              > > > > > > > > used it for several years to explain Fourier
                              > > transforms/Fourier
                              > > > > > > series
                              > > > > > > > > to an introductory physics class. It's great for that!
                              > > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
                            • wolf_dl4yhf
                              ... Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn t update that page yet, but the installer is new.
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                                Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                 

                                Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download


                                Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page yet, but the installer is new.


                              • john_s_colton
                                Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version, overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here s the most applicable section:
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                                  Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version, overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the most applicable section:


                                  22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                  22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                  22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                  22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                  22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                  22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is device #-1 = '' .
                                  22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                  22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                  22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                                  22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                  22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                  22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                  22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                  22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                  22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                  22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                  22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                  22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is device #-1 = '' .
                                  22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                  22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                  22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                                  22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                  22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                  22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .



                                  John






                                  --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                  > >
                                  > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                  > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page yet,
                                  > but the installer is new.
                                  >
                                • wolf_dl4yhf
                                  Hello John, Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0 (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard wave audio devices on your
                                  Message 16 of 27 , Oct 26, 2012
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                                    Hello John,

                                    Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0 (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard 'wave audio' devices on your system. But as you said other programs are able to use the soundcard on the same PC, there maybe something else going terribly wrong there. Could it be some anti-virus software running Spectrum Lab in a 'Sandbox', preventing access to most devices ? This is pure speculation, of course. The antivirus software used here (avast) once suggested to run a program which it didn't know in a sandbox. Maybe a similar issue ?

                                    On my Windows 7 PC, Spectrum Lab runs without problems even without admin privileges, and it can access all audio devices (the internal onboard 'soundcard' as well as external devices plugged via USB). So I'm a bit lost at this point. Hoping for suggestions from other users, with more windows (7 / Vista) experience than myself.



                                    Am 26.10.2012 00:46, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                     


                                    Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version, overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the most applicable section:

                                    22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                    22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                    22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                    22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                    22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                    22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is device #-1 = '' .
                                    22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                    22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                    22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                                    22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                    22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                    22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                    22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                    22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                    22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                    22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                    22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                    22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is device #-1 = '' .
                                    22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16 bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                    22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                    22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for input
                                    22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                    22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                    22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .

                                    John

                                    --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                    > >
                                    > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                    > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page yet,
                                    > but the installer is new.
                                    >


                                  • john_s_colton
                                    The only soundcard I have is the built-in capability of the motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn t mention that before. Optiplex
                                    Message 17 of 27 , Oct 26, 2012
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                                      The only "soundcard" I have is the built-in capability of the motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn't mention that before. Optiplex 990.)

                                      I tried disabling my antivirus program just now (Symantec Endpoint Protection), but the same error message occurred.

                                      As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs, and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.

                                      If you're out of ideas, I guess we'll table this for now. Let me know if you think of anything else.

                                      Thanks for trying!

                                      John



                                      --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Hello John,
                                      >
                                      > Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0
                                      > (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard 'wave audio' devices on
                                      > your system. But as you said other programs are able to use the
                                      > soundcard on the same PC, there maybe something else going terribly
                                      > wrong there. Could it be some anti-virus software running Spectrum Lab
                                      > in a 'Sandbox', preventing access to most devices ? This is pure
                                      > speculation, of course. The antivirus software used here (avast) once
                                      > suggested to run a program which it didn't know in a sandbox. Maybe a
                                      > similar issue ?
                                      >
                                      > On my Windows 7 PC, Spectrum Lab runs without problems even without
                                      > admin privileges, and it can access all audio devices (the internal
                                      > onboard 'soundcard' as well as external devices plugged via USB). So I'm
                                      > a bit lost at this point. Hoping for suggestions from other users, with
                                      > more windows (7 / Vista) experience than myself.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Am 26.10.2012 00:46, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version,
                                      > > overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the most
                                      > > applicable section:
                                      > >
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                      > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                      > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                      > > device #-1 = '' .
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                      > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                      > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                      > > input
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                      > > 22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                      > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                      > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                      > > device #-1 = '' .
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                      > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                      > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                      > > input
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                      > > 22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                      > >
                                      > > John
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                      > > wrote:
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                      > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                      > > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page yet,
                                      > > > but the installer is new.
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      >
                                    • kd7ts
                                      On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:14:15 -0700, john_s_colton ... I d snoop around from here..
                                      Message 18 of 27 , Oct 26, 2012
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                                        On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:14:15 -0700, john_s_colton <john_colton@...>
                                        wrote:

                                        > The only "soundcard" I have is the built-in capability of the
                                        > motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn't mention
                                        > that before. Optiplex 990.)


                                        I'd snoop around from here..

                                        http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/delldownloadcenter/ddc?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&~ck=mn

                                        There is a tag on the machine that (if you write it down) allows you to
                                        identify all the chip sets. Or.. there is also an option to allow
                                        identifying via internet.

                                        Once you know the chipset you can get the correct driver and install it.

                                        If you did all this, then never mind

                                        Mike
                                      • wolf_dl4yhf
                                        Greetings all, Well the Optiplex 990 is said to have an analog input, but being able to listen to music with it doesn t mean a lot. ... That only means it has
                                        Message 19 of 27 , Oct 26, 2012
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                                          Greetings all,

                                          Well the Optiplex 990 is said to have an analog input, but being able to listen to music with it doesn't mean a lot.

                                          > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound
                                          programs,
                                          > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I
                                          type this.

                                          That only means it has an audio output device (with D/A converter inside), but doesn't mean anything about input devices (with A/D converter inside).

                                          As far as I understand it, Windows 7 treats every input as an own audio device (much in contrast to the trusty old Windows XP, where one soundcard = one audio device, regardless of how many 'input lines' (mic, line-in, cd-player) it had. And, those devices were always 'visible' to the software.

                                          If you have, you could plug some other audio *input* device (like an USB "microphone") into the laptop, and see what happens.
                                          As long as the windows function 'waveInGetNumDevs()' reports there are *no* (zero) wave-input-devices on your machine, we're out of luck, and I have no idea why it behaves this way. Because this is what Spectrum Lab uses internally, to find out if (and how many) such devices are available. The result returned by waveInGetNumDevs() is also what SL now reports in the debug-run-log. As long as the result is 0 (zero devices available), we're out of the game.


                                          All the best,

                                             Wolf .


                                          Am 27.10.2012 00:14, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                           

                                          The only "soundcard" I have is the built-in capability of the motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn't mention that before. Optiplex 990.)

                                          I tried disabling my antivirus program just now (Symantec Endpoint Protection), but the same error message occurred.

                                          As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs, and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.

                                          If you're out of ideas, I guess we'll table this for now. Let me know if you think of anything else.

                                          Thanks for trying!

                                          John

                                          --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Hello John,
                                          >
                                          > Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0
                                          > (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard 'wave audio' devices on
                                          > your system. But as you said other programs are able to use the
                                          > soundcard on the same PC, there maybe something else going terribly
                                          > wrong there. Could it be some anti-virus software running Spectrum Lab
                                          > in a 'Sandbox', preventing access to most devices ? This is pure
                                          > speculation, of course. The antivirus software used here (avast) once
                                          > suggested to run a program which it didn't know in a sandbox. Maybe a
                                          > similar issue ?
                                          >
                                          > On my Windows 7 PC, Spectrum Lab runs without problems even without
                                          > admin privileges, and it can access all audio devices (the internal
                                          > onboard 'soundcard' as well as external devices plugged via USB). So I'm
                                          > a bit lost at this point. Hoping for suggestions from other users, with
                                          > more windows (7 / Vista) experience than myself.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Am 26.10.2012 00:46, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version,
                                          > > overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the most
                                          > > applicable section:
                                          > >
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                          > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                          > > device #-1 = '' .
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                          > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                          > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                          > > input
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                          > > 22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' -> DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                          > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                          > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                          > > device #-1 = '' .
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                          > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                          > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                          > > input
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                          > > 22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                          > >
                                          > > John
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                          > > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                          > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                          > > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page yet,
                                          > > > but the installer is new.
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          >


                                        • Jurgen Bartels
                                          ... Try recording with RecAllPro (30 days trial) Goto Options / Preferences / Driver what Audio-In and -Out Devices are listed?
                                          Message 20 of 27 , Oct 27, 2012
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                                            > Well the Optiplex 990 is said to have an analog input, but being able to
                                            > listen to music with it doesn't mean a lot.
                                            >
                                            > > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs,
                                            > > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.
                                            >
                                            > That only means it has an audio output device (with D/A converter
                                            > inside), but doesn't mean anything about input devices (with A/D
                                            > converter inside).

                                            Try recording with RecAllPro (30 days trial)

                                            Goto Options / Preferences / Driver
                                            what Audio-In and -Out Devices are listed?

                                            http://www.sagebrush.com/recpro.htm



                                            Jurgen
                                          • john_s_colton
                                            I ve got a microphone input, but since I was interested in using this particular computer just for the function generator capability of Spectrum Lab (audio
                                            Message 21 of 27 , Oct 27, 2012
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                                              I've got a microphone input, but since I was interested in using this particular computer just for the function generator capability of Spectrum Lab (audio output only), I don't have any microphone currently hooked up. Are you saying that I cannot use SL as a function generator to produce audio if I don't have any audio inputs? That seems odd.

                                              Anyway, I will try to track down a microphone to make sure that the microphone input on this computer actually works (I've never use it yet), and assuming it does I'll see if SL functions with the microphone connected.

                                              John


                                              --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Greetings all,
                                              >
                                              > Well the Optiplex 990 is said to have an analog input, but being able to
                                              > listen to music with it doesn't mean a lot.
                                              >
                                              > > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs,
                                              > > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.
                                              >
                                              > That only means it has an audio output device (with D/A converter
                                              > inside), but doesn't mean anything about input devices (with A/D
                                              > converter inside).
                                              >
                                              > As far as I understand it, Windows 7 treats every input as an own audio
                                              > device (much in contrast to the trusty old Windows XP, where one
                                              > soundcard = one audio device, regardless of how many 'input lines' (mic,
                                              > line-in, cd-player) it had. And, those devices were always 'visible' to
                                              > the software.
                                              >
                                              > If you have, you could plug some other audio *input* device (like an USB
                                              > "microphone") into the laptop, and see what happens.
                                              > As long as the windows function 'waveInGetNumDevs()' reports there are
                                              > *no* (zero) wave-input-devices on your machine, we're out of luck, and I
                                              > have no idea why it behaves this way. Because this is what Spectrum Lab
                                              > uses internally, to find out if (and how many) such devices are
                                              > available. The result returned by waveInGetNumDevs() is also what SL now
                                              > reports in the debug-run-log. As long as the result is 0 (zero devices
                                              > available), we're out of the game.
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > All the best,
                                              >
                                              > Wolf .
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Am 27.10.2012 00:14, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                              > >
                                              > > The only "soundcard" I have is the built-in capability of the
                                              > > motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn't
                                              > > mention that before. Optiplex 990.)
                                              > >
                                              > > I tried disabling my antivirus program just now (Symantec Endpoint
                                              > > Protection), but the same error message occurred.
                                              > >
                                              > > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs,
                                              > > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.
                                              > >
                                              > > If you're out of ideas, I guess we'll table this for now. Let me know
                                              > > if you think of anything else.
                                              > >
                                              > > Thanks for trying!
                                              > >
                                              > > John
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                              > > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Hello John,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0
                                              > > > (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard 'wave audio' devices on
                                              > > > your system. But as you said other programs are able to use the
                                              > > > soundcard on the same PC, there maybe something else going terribly
                                              > > > wrong there. Could it be some anti-virus software running Spectrum Lab
                                              > > > in a 'Sandbox', preventing access to most devices ? This is pure
                                              > > > speculation, of course. The antivirus software used here (avast) once
                                              > > > suggested to run a program which it didn't know in a sandbox. Maybe a
                                              > > > similar issue ?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > On my Windows 7 PC, Spectrum Lab runs without problems even without
                                              > > > admin privileges, and it can access all audio devices (the internal
                                              > > > onboard 'soundcard' as well as external devices plugged via USB). So
                                              > > I'm
                                              > > > a bit lost at this point. Hoping for suggestions from other users, with
                                              > > > more windows (7 / Vista) experience than myself.
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:46, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version,
                                              > > > > overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the
                                              > > most
                                              > > > > applicable section:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                              > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                              > > > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                              > > > > device #-1 = '' .
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                              > > > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                              > > > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                              > > > > input
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                              > > > > 22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                              > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                              > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                              > > > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                              > > > > device #-1 = '' .
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                              > > > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                              > > > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                              > > > > input
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                              > > > > 22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > John
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                              > > > > wrote:
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                              > > > > > >
                                              > > > > > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                              > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                              > > > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > > > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page
                                              > > yet,
                                              > > > > > but the installer is new.
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              >
                                            • kd7ts
                                              On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:17:11 -0700, john_s_colton ... John, according to my research the Optiplex 990 uses a Realtek ALC269 chip for its
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                                                On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:17:11 -0700, john_s_colton <john_colton@...>
                                                wrote:

                                                > I've got a microphone input, but since I was interested in using this
                                                > particular computer just for the function generator capability of
                                                > Spectrum Lab (audio output only), I don't have any microphone currently
                                                > hooked up. Are you saying that I cannot use SL as a function generator
                                                > to produce audio if I don't have any audio inputs? That seems odd.
                                                > Anyway, I will try to track down a microphone to make sure that the
                                                > microphone input on this computer actually works (I've never use it
                                                > yet), and assuming it does I'll see if SL functions with the microphone
                                                > connected.
                                                > John


                                                John, according to my research the Optiplex 990 uses a Realtek ALC269 chip
                                                for its audio functions. You can read a short description of it here:

                                                http://www.realtek.cz/realtek-datasheet.php?datasheet=ALC269

                                                basically it says ....


                                                The ALC269 is a High Definition Audio Codec that integrates a 2+2-channel
                                                DAC, a 4-channel ADC, and a Class-D Speaker Amplifier.

                                                The 2+2-channel DAC supports two independent stereo sound outputs
                                                simultaneously. The 4-channel ADC integrates two stereo and independent
                                                analog sound inputs (multiple streaming).

                                                The ALC269 incorporates Realtek converter technology to achieve a 98dB
                                                dynamic range playback quality and a 98dB dynamic range recording quality.
                                                It meets the current WLP3.10 (Windows Logo Program) and future WLP
                                                requirements.

                                                The ALC269 also supports stereo digital microphone channels (microphone
                                                array) with Acoustic Echo Cancellation (AEC), Beam Forming (BF), and Noise
                                                Suppression (NS) technology simultaneously, significantly improving voice
                                                quality for PC VoIP applications.

                                                As well as basic audio functions, the ALC269 has two independent S/PDIF
                                                outputs; one could be used to connect a PC to high-quality consumer
                                                electronic products such as digital decoders and speakers, the other could
                                                provide a dedicated digital output to a HDMI transmitter (common in high
                                                end PCs).

                                                There are three integrated power amplifiers. The first is a linear
                                                headphone amplifier at port C. The second headphone amplifier at port A
                                                removes the need for external DC blocking capacitors, eliminating pop
                                                noise caused by these capacitors. The third is an integrated stereo
                                                Class-D amplifier to directly drive a mini-speaker. The Class-D amplifier
                                                is designed to drive speakers with as low as 4Ω impedance. Its maximum
                                                output power is 2.3W per channel at 5V power supply. The advantage of an
                                                integrated Class-D amplifier in the ALC269 is high efficiency with low
                                                power consumption.

                                                The ALC269 integrates five hardware equalizer bands composed of one
                                                low-pass filter, one high-pass filter, and three band-pass filters to
                                                compensate for mini-speaker frequency response. All the equalizer filters
                                                are programmable via the BIOS, allowing the equalizer to function without
                                                the need to customize the audio driver.

                                                The data sheet is also linked on the page.

                                                There are 4 models of the 990 and it appears they all have expansion slots
                                                that would allow adding a sound card.

                                                here is a link to the desk top version

                                                http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/optiplex-990/pd
                                              • john_s_colton
                                                OK, I tracked down a microphone that I could plug into the microphone input. And SpectrumLab works fine! (much rejoicing) Interestingly enough, if I unplug the
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                                                  OK, I tracked down a microphone that I could plug into the microphone input. And SpectrumLab works fine! (much rejoicing)

                                                  Interestingly enough, if I unplug the microphone while, for example, playing a tone with the function generator, then it stops immediately and gives me the error message. Plug the microphone back in, and it works again.

                                                  So, in summary--the problem was that (a) Windows reports that there are no audio input devices when an external microphone isn't physically plugged in, and (b) SpectrumLab refuses to do anything when it thinks there are no audio input devices.

                                                  Since (a) is something we can't change, and if I recall correctly Wolf said it's a difference between WinXP and Windows7, I would recommend to Wolf that you change (b). That is, in the next revision please allow the audio output features of SpectrumLab to function even if no audio input devices are found.

                                                  Thanks again for all the help, and I think this wraps up this thread.

                                                  John



                                                  --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, "john_s_colton" <john_colton@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > I've got a microphone input, but since I was interested in using this particular computer just for the function generator capability of Spectrum Lab (audio output only), I don't have any microphone currently hooked up. Are you saying that I cannot use SL as a function generator to produce audio if I don't have any audio inputs? That seems odd.
                                                  >
                                                  > Anyway, I will try to track down a microphone to make sure that the microphone input on this computer actually works (I've never use it yet), and assuming it does I'll see if SL functions with the microphone connected.
                                                  >
                                                  > John
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@> wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Greetings all,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Well the Optiplex 990 is said to have an analog input, but being able to
                                                  > > listen to music with it doesn't mean a lot.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs,
                                                  > > > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > That only means it has an audio output device (with D/A converter
                                                  > > inside), but doesn't mean anything about input devices (with A/D
                                                  > > converter inside).
                                                  > >
                                                  > > As far as I understand it, Windows 7 treats every input as an own audio
                                                  > > device (much in contrast to the trusty old Windows XP, where one
                                                  > > soundcard = one audio device, regardless of how many 'input lines' (mic,
                                                  > > line-in, cd-player) it had. And, those devices were always 'visible' to
                                                  > > the software.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > If you have, you could plug some other audio *input* device (like an USB
                                                  > > "microphone") into the laptop, and see what happens.
                                                  > > As long as the windows function 'waveInGetNumDevs()' reports there are
                                                  > > *no* (zero) wave-input-devices on your machine, we're out of luck, and I
                                                  > > have no idea why it behaves this way. Because this is what Spectrum Lab
                                                  > > uses internally, to find out if (and how many) such devices are
                                                  > > available. The result returned by waveInGetNumDevs() is also what SL now
                                                  > > reports in the debug-run-log. As long as the result is 0 (zero devices
                                                  > > available), we're out of the game.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > All the best,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Wolf .
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Am 27.10.2012 00:14, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > The only "soundcard" I have is the built-in capability of the
                                                  > > > motherboard. (This is a standard Dell computer, in case I didn't
                                                  > > > mention that before. Optiplex 990.)
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I tried disabling my antivirus program just now (Symantec Endpoint
                                                  > > > Protection), but the same error message occurred.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > As mentioned, I haven't had any issues with any other sound programs,
                                                  > > > and am indeed listening to music with foobar2000 even as I type this.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > If you're out of ideas, I guess we'll table this for now. Let me know
                                                  > > > if you think of anything else.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thanks for trying!
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > John
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                                  > > > wrote:
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Hello John,
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Thanks for the test. This is extremely strange: Windows reports that 0
                                                  > > > > (zero!) soundcards are installed as standard 'wave audio' devices on
                                                  > > > > your system. But as you said other programs are able to use the
                                                  > > > > soundcard on the same PC, there maybe something else going terribly
                                                  > > > > wrong there. Could it be some anti-virus software running Spectrum Lab
                                                  > > > > in a 'Sandbox', preventing access to most devices ? This is pure
                                                  > > > > speculation, of course. The antivirus software used here (avast) once
                                                  > > > > suggested to run a program which it didn't know in a sandbox. Maybe a
                                                  > > > > similar issue ?
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > On my Windows 7 PC, Spectrum Lab runs without problems even without
                                                  > > > > admin privileges, and it can access all audio devices (the internal
                                                  > > > > onboard 'soundcard' as well as external devices plugged via USB). So
                                                  > > > I'm
                                                  > > > > a bit lost at this point. Hoping for suggestions from other users, with
                                                  > > > > more windows (7 / Vista) experience than myself.
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:46, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > Oh, OK. I installed the new version on top of the old version,
                                                  > > > > > overwriting files as prompted. I ran it in debug mode. Here's the
                                                  > > > most
                                                  > > > > > applicable section:
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 Initialising audio devices..
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                                  > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                                  > > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                                  > > > > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                                  > > > > > device #-1 = '' .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                                  > > > > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                                  > > > > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                                  > > > > > input
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 Sound devices started
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:49.0 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 Initialising audio devices..
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, IN: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                                  > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 InitAudioDevices, OUT: DeviceName='-1' ->
                                                  > > > > > DeviceType=Soundcard .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 Opening or re-opening audio device for input
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID('-1'): Enumerating wave-input
                                                  > > > > > devices. Windows reports 0 :
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 InputDeviceNameToDeviceID: No perfect match; best bet is
                                                  > > > > > device #-1 = '' .
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Trying to open "", ID #-1, 11025 Hz, 16
                                                  > > > > > bit, 1 channel(s), for input.
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: waveInOpen failed. Trying again to open
                                                  > > > > > audio device for input, using WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 CSound::InOpen: Failed to open multimedia audio device for
                                                  > > > > > input
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 Back from SoundDev->InOpen, result=2
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 Sound devices started
                                                  > > > > > 22:42:51.3 Back from InitAudioDevices .
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > John
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > > > <mailto:SpectrumLabUsers%40yahoogroups.com>, wolf_dl4yhf <dl4yhf@>
                                                  > > > > > wrote:
                                                  > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > > Am 26.10.2012 00:31, schrieb john_s_colton:
                                                  > > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > > > Where do I get b17? The version listed here still says b16
                                                  > > > > > > > http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html#download
                                                  > > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > > > Ignore the text on the webpage. I simply didn't update that page
                                                  > > > yet,
                                                  > > > > > > but the installer is new.
                                                  > > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > > >
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > >
                                                  >
                                                • Alan
                                                  ... Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: Running Spectrum Lab in debug mode ... John, I was going to comment but I thought you must have tried it with plugs in!
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                                                    > Since (a) is something we can't change, and if I recall correctly Wolf said it's a difference between WinXP and Windows7, I would
                                                    > recommend to Wolf that you change (b). That is, in the next revision please allow the audio output features of SpectrumLab to
                                                    > function even if no audio input devices are found.
                                                    >
                                                    > Thanks again for all the help, and I think this wraps up this thread.
                                                    >

                                                    John,

                                                    I was going to comment but I thought you must have tried it with plugs in!

                                                    It's nothing to do with Windows.
                                                    Modern mother board sockets have an extra contact that tells the soundcard driver whether there is anything plugged in. We get
                                                    frustrating popups telling us something has been inserted.
                                                    When there is nothing plugged in that socket is disabled and Windows does not see it.
                                                    I can't help feeling this could really upset things if something is setup with nothing in the motherboard socket, then the computer
                                                    restarted with something inserted.
                                                    I only have one computer like that which I do not use regularly. I suggest fitting permanent extension leads in those sockets. Or
                                                    hack the motherboard so it thinks something is inserted.

                                                    73 Alan G4ZFQ
                                                  • john_s_colton
                                                    Alan, Thanks for the comments. I hadn t tried it with anything plugged in, since (at the time) I only wanted Spectrum Lab to produce output rather than analyze
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                                                      Alan,

                                                      Thanks for the comments. I hadn't tried it with anything plugged in, since (at the time) I only wanted Spectrum Lab to produce output rather than analyze input. I didn't realize until just a couple of days ago that the lack of an input source would prevent Spectrum Lab from functioning as a function generator.

                                                      John


                                                      --- In SpectrumLabUsers@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <g4zfq@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > John,
                                                      >
                                                      > I was going to comment but I thought you must have tried it with plugs in!
                                                      >
                                                      > It's nothing to do with Windows.
                                                      > Modern mother board sockets have an extra contact that tells the soundcard driver whether there is anything plugged in. We get
                                                      > frustrating popups telling us something has been inserted.
                                                      > When there is nothing plugged in that socket is disabled and Windows does not see it.
                                                      > I can't help feeling this could really upset things if something is setup with nothing in the motherboard socket, then the computer
                                                      > restarted with something inserted.
                                                      > I only have one computer like that which I do not use regularly. I suggest fitting permanent extension leads in those sockets. Or
                                                      > hack the motherboard so it thinks something is inserted.
                                                      >
                                                      > 73 Alan G4ZFQ
                                                      >
                                                    • Alan
                                                      ... Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: Running Spectrum Lab in debug mode ... John, Oh yes! That s why I did not say anything. I thought the same as you. 73
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                                                        Subject: [SpectrumLabUsers] Re: Running Spectrum Lab in 'debug' mode


                                                        > I didn't realize until just a couple of days ago that the lack of an input source would prevent Spectrum Lab from functioning as
                                                        > a function generator.
                                                        >

                                                        John,

                                                        Oh yes! That's why I did not say anything. I thought the same as you.

                                                        73 Alan G4ZFQ
                                                      • Jurgen Bartels
                                                        ... Usually you can set up in your soundcard properties if it should react on the plugin-switch or not. Just disable that switch. Jurgen
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                                                          > Thanks for the comments. I hadn't tried it with anything plugged in, since (at
                                                          > the time) I only wanted Spectrum Lab to produce output rather than analyze

                                                          Usually you can set up in your soundcard properties if it should react on the
                                                          plugin-switch or not. Just disable that switch.



                                                          Jurgen
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