Re: [The Existential Society] College
- Will, take a look at this website.
This site surveys philosophers on the reputation of
schools in the US, as well as in other English
speaking countries. The undergrad section gives advice
to those looking for an undergrad education in
philosophy, whereas the rankings pertain to masters
and phd programs. However, since large schools will
have classes taught by graduate students, knowing
which school have the best programs will give you some
advanced knowledge of the type of students attracted
to the graduate programs.
However, something that is often overlooked is that
the most gifted intellectually does not necessarily
mean that they are gifted teachers.
Good luck looking at colleges!
--- Will Quinn <kashmirlight@...> wrote:
> Hello all,=====
> I'm starting to look at colleges now, and I'm
> wondering if you guys could give me any
> reccomendations of colleges with good philosophy
> departments. I would really appreciate any
> you could render.
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Just got back from spending a week with my brother in New Port
Richey, Florida. The days went by all too quickly, and now I'm back
on the nightshift grind at work, which immediately proceeded to suck
the life right out of me.
I much appreciate your thoughtful response to my post. I think
there's a bit of synchronicity going on here. My Barbara had just
begun to get into Thich Naht Hahn, and she had been very
enthusiastic. And music was a major touchstone of affinity between
Barbara and me. She had perfect pitch. The piano was her
instrument, as well as all elements of percussion. She deepened my
understanding and enjoyment of classical music.
I'm going to order EITHER/OR and THE MIRACLE OF MINDFULNESS. Perhaps
the Paley Library at Temple University in Philadelphia will grant an
old alumnus access to their journal articles on Kierkegaard. Last
fall I read three essays on THE MATRIX movie site: THE MATRIX AS
METAPHYSICS, WAKE UP! GNOSTICISM AND BUDDHISM IN THE MATRIX, and
PLATO'S CAVE AND THE MATRIX. As I said, seems like synchronicity at
work here. I am so in tune with your suggestions, and I can't wait
to start a new quest, using your roadmap. A twist: When the teacher
is ready, the student appears.
I, too, have had my problems with depression. Only reading,
thinking, and acting seems to bring me around. Thanks again for
occasioning a spark of enthusiasm to re-energize my lazy bones.
--- In email@example.com, Monte Morris
> Neurom,lately, and the sad thing is, is that this is the down time for my
> sorry to take so long in getting back--life has been quite busy
> I work in Japan, and we had graduation about 10 days ago. So,following that, there are tons of parties and other social
obligations. After every school year, some teachers are swapped
about, much like off season of professional sports. So, we have to
have parties for staff and faculty who are retiring, as well as
parties to send off those who are moving to different positions. To
add to this, I am officially a government employee who moves about
various schools, and personel in the town hall also retire and move
about at this time of the year as well. Thus, there are more parties
for me to go to. Ugh..
> all this and i still have a girl friend to see.remember the day that I was curious, and definitely intimidated and
> Well, on to your message... comments interlaced throughout..
> neurom9999 <neurom9999@y...> wrote:
> When I was a young child, and first visited the public library, I
awed, by two sections in that library. One wall of books was devoted
to "Mariology," commentaries, analyses, and essays devoted to the
> mother of Jesus. And another--larger--wall of books was devoted tothe works of Kierkegaard, and writings about Kierkegaard. At some
point, I took home FEAR AND TREMBLING, but I think I was too young to
> have any possibility of grasping its import.curiousity, took the same mindset as most students--don`t want to try
> (When I was younger, I lived in a small town and despite my natural
very hard and education is just a prerequisite to good employment.
That attitude began to suffer terrible blows when I was in high
school, and was destroyed in college. Perplexed by the attitude of
college students, who complained about how difficult everything was,
i was looking for a challenge. Hearing that a certain philosophy
professor was so difficult, I took his class. It was everything I was
looking for. After that semester, I declared a double major to
English/philosophy and transferred out of the chemistry department,
despite the protests of the faculty who were looking for someone with
a theoretical approach to science. They tried to tell me that the
courses would become more rigorous as I moved on. I told them if they
want to retain students who are interested in the science, that they
would have to find a way to make it more theoretical
> from the beginning, so that they could weed out the job seekers---send them off to the business department, I cried!)
>door. One of the textbooks for a college religion class I took was
> In adulthood, I actually came to existentialism through the back
GNOSTICISM by Hans Jonas. There was an afterword in the book
relating various parallels between the reality tunnel of the Gnostics
> and that of the existentialists. All kinds of shared metaphors.The Gnostic conception of being "thrown into this world." The
Gnostic cry, "Who has cast me into this body-stump?" And Jonas wrote
his book before the Nag Hammadi discovery. The now-revealed world-
view rapport between gnosticism and existentialism is startling.
>philosophy of religion course I took, another was a history of
> (I came across the gnostics in a couple of classes. One was a
Christianity course. However, in both classes, they were given token
attention so I don`t know much about them. However, there are also
some real parallels between Existentialism and some Buddhist thought,
which I find quite interesting. Perhaps you could expound a bit more
on the parallels of Gnostic and existentialist thought?)
>DEATH has gotten underway. I'm knee-deep in Heidegger's BEING AND
> Now, I've joined this group, as a discussion of THE SICKNESS UNTO
TIME, but it's been a slow read. I've done some web surfing to get a
handle on Kierkegaard's context. Give me something easy--like
> Finnegans Wake!that I certainly didn`t have enough background to attempt that sort
> (I read parts of Being and Time in college as a sophomore. I think
of book at the time. Indeed, looking at graduate schools, I saw that
most Universities offer a year-long course on just that book! It is
indeed a slow read, and not a book that I would recommend to people
just starting out on existentialism.)
>to begin with EITHER/OR, or to take Kierkegaard at his word that all
> I'm going to pursue Kierkegaard, but, I haven't yet decided whether
his pseudonymous/polyonymous works were a subtrefuge to "deceive men
into the religious," and cut to the chase.
>to a public library and becoming familiar with the scholarly journals
> (With Kierkegaard, I recommend starting with Either/Or, and going
database. In fact, with any philosophical undertaking, I recommend
taking advantage of journal articles. I believe that all public
university libraries are open to the public, and they will have a
database to search for journal articles. I`m not so certain about
city and town libraries. I believe that all Universities participate
in the pracitice of sharing their resources, so if a journal is not
in the library, they can request it from another.)
>November. I want some grounding in philosophy, in order to create
> I'm grieving the loss of my beloved Barbara, who died suddenly last
meaning in what has felt like a posthumous existence, and to make
decisions in my life that reflect the best within me. The vocabulary
> of existentialism seems to speak my language. I'm very muchconcerned with authenticity. I have so many choices to make.
>rather serious relationship, although it is nothing compared to what
> (About a year before i came to Japan, I had a tough break up in a
you are going through. HOwever, true to my self, I of course delved
into books. I have a natural disposition to depression that seems to
engulf everyone in my family, but have fought it off on my own. I
think philosophy and great amounts of self-reflection have helped me
to achieve this, as well as music. Music is a necessary part of life,
and Kurt Vonnegut agrees with me! Although it took years to achieve,
I am very much aware of what is going on in my mind and am now able
to stop certain patterns of thinking before they took hold. No need
for medications here!
>I would recommend doing something like this. First of all, read Thich
> Although I didn`t come across these books in this particular order,
Naht Hahn`s `The Miracle of Mindfullness.` An excellent book about
living in the world and becoming aware of the miracle of existence. A
friend of mine introduced me to this book immediately after he read
it. It can be read in one sitting, though I recommend reading a
chapter a day and taking time to reflect on what it said. There is a
wealth of practical advice about taking control of your mind and your
thoughts and it really does work.
>book that can reshape your entire outlook on life. I`ve recommended
> Secondly, Kierkegaard`s `Works of Love` is an incredibly powerful
this book to friends, and they all agree that it is great. One friend
said `This is the only acceptable interpretation of Christianity that
I`ve ever seen. Oddly enough, it`s also the most eloquant.`
>the other two, is also a great book, and comes from an entirely
> Martin Buber`s `I and Thou,` though not nearly as influential as
different approach. Most existentialists focus on the self and self-
improvement. Buber focuses on relationships between human beings,
nature and God. He was Jewish, though his ideas aren`t entirely
traditional, particularly his conception of God.
>is Derrida`s `The Gift of Death.` I came across book reveiws of this
> Another book you might want to check out, but that I haven`t read
while researching Kierkegaard for my senior research and it has
generated an incredible debate within philosophy that is still
current. It is supposed to be the most personal and religious of
>works are required reading. Many scholars have remarked that the
> Also, for anyone wanting a grounding in philosophy, Plato`s major
history of philosophy is simply a footnote to Plato. Any amount of
knowledge of the history of philosophy goes a long way in
understanding what you are reading. That`s why journal articles are
so important. Many philosophers will already have made lots of
connections and many things will have already been debated that are
pertinent to what you are studying. It increases one`s appreciation
and understanding of the matter incredibly.)
>certainly jump in, if I have any questions or comments. I can see
> I will be following the discussion of Kierkegaard, and I will
that you are very knowledgeable about Kierkegaard and other subjects,
and I hope to gain a better understanding of existential issues in
the ongoing discussion, and to contribute what I can.
>Take care and happy reading!)
> (I`m certainly looking forward to future discussions on this board.
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- I went to F.I.U and its philosophy department was not so good. I
suggest you look for a school with small classes. Small classes are
the best for philosophy. All my large classes were nightmares. They
were inpersonal, regimented, relied heavily on books instead of
discussions, etc. Also, go to the school's website and check out the
course offerings for philosophy.