Re: Some base questions i am struggling with.
- I'm new here and i dont call myself a existentialist because i
refuse to label myself as one thing or another i am just myself, my
choices, and that is what i choose.
this is a comment to your explanation of point #1. about making
choices for humanity.
We are radically free so we should act as our choices are completly
our own and are complety made from our total individuality. One
(someone acting existentially) is constantly setting examples but
indirectly and unknowingly. The example being set is not right or
wrong but making choices based on yourself and your freedom and
others should act that way. After all there are no right actions or
wrong actions, there are just actions. You must make your actions
your choice, and those actions should be free from everything except
your individuality, and knowing how free you are.
I dont see how it is remotely possible for a theist to be
existential in thought and action. I dont see how it is possible for
governments to be existential, i dont see how it is possible to be
existential in a world that is so unaccepting and built around
blockading your freedom. Although i act radically free and make my
own choices,and make those as ones to be set as an example.
Everything i do is creativly my own, my love, my communication, just
the way i live and i create everything i have my essence is defined
and embedded in my actions, thoughts, and words. The only ones i am
responsible for are the ones that are mine. If one does not believe
in truth than that would be bad faith, however how do you define
truth? through perceptions? The only things i know to be true are
the things i experience, the thoughts i have, so therefore those are
the only things i believe. So if i believe god does not exist than
its that simple to my perception, god doesn't exist. The choice to
make this choice was not random but became truth after i created the
understanding of how absurd a god is. I am only interested in truth
and my truths, which are my feelings and creations. I have created a
love and that is truth, i want nothing to do with sports,politics,
news, tv, games, or anything meaningless. So one does not finish
creating their individuality until they die, becuase you are your
choices so you are what choices you make at each moment. There are
moments, there is no time what ever you are at the moment being
looked at is who you are, therefore you are not consistant, you are
an everchanging moment yet to ensue.
Way to often i find people who know the most about existentialism,
have read all of the existential philosophers (most likely qoute
them as well) and constantly define existentialism, arent living
> #1 In Catch 22 Joseph Killer has two characters exchange: "What if
> everyone did that?" E.G. tromp on any ping-pong ball left on the
> floor. Replay: "Then I'd be a fool not to." In law there is the
> concept of the rational man (or some such adjative) and the test
> what would he/she do.psychologist
> #2 Langage itself is a culturally derived set of a prioi values we
> can revaluate after learning what they are. Cognitive
> allow that between stimula and responce thinking occurs either asessentially
> language or a spatial visualatiom.
> Does any of this help?
> > #1 When sartre says that when we make choices, we are
> > making those decisions for all of humanity, how does that workfor
> > those decisions we all make everyday that we really know are notin
> > our self-interest? For example, say our eating habits when wereach
> > for the snickers instead of the salad. I dont for a moment thinkSartre
> > that is the best decision for all of humanity. What would
> > say about that? Does anyone see where i am going?is
> > #2 When Sartre deftly acknowledges the non-existence of a prioi
> > values in which to guide our life, and then commits that action
> > the only means of self-definition, are there any over-ridingvalues
> > that govern the direction that the action is to take? Formakes
> > Sartre was a very active man for social justice/activist/freedom
> > fighter. Is thier anything inherent in the philosophy that
> > decide that pursuing justice in my action is at all a better
> > than pursuing action in the name of slavery, injustice offascism?
> > Or is action just action.. and it doesnt matter which way wetake
> > I have more.. but i think i will save them for a later time.
> > Thanks
> After all there are no right actions orExistential choices are made primarily from internal
> wrong actions, there are just actions. You must make
> your actions
> your choice, and those actions should be free from
> everything except
> your individuality, and knowing how free you are.
feelings. Most choices have consequences.
Existentialism does not need to be amoral. Choosing
between equally moral actions is true freedom. I can
be existential and still define immoral actions as
actions that in the past have generally led
undesirable consequences. I can feel abortion to be
wrong without having to come up with a rational
> I don't see how it is remotely possible for atheist
> to beA son who goes against his parent's wishes to become a
> existential in thought and action.
CPA (and inherit the family business), to work as a
habitat for humanity volunteer is exercising his free
agency. Is this choice rational?
A theist can also see a world that is amoral and
absurd due to individual and institutionalized evils.
Religion has as its greatest necessity the task of
predicting good and bad behaviors. If rational
thought leads to absurd abuse of power, the challenge
to such and authority may be triggered by pure
The poet or prophet is like the canary in a coal mine.
The bird dies from carbon-monoxide before anyone else
notices a problem. He or she senses the true morality
of existence and alerts the rest of us earthling about
his or her perception of the problems.
Rational thought is what allows us to get to the
ski-lodge on a day with good conditions and with all
the right equipment. A love of skiing is not so
> If oneIf you tell me you experience no God, I must believe
> does not believe
> in truth than that would be bad faith, however how
> do you define
> truth? through perceptions? The only things i know
> to be true are
> the things i experience, the thoughts i have, so
> therefore those are
> the only things i believe. So if i believe god does
> not exist than
> its that simple to my perception, god doesn't exist.
you. But I wonder how you can feel safe in a world
where no advice is possible? Don't you believe that
some people have greater insights than yourself? If
someone could interpret the wisdom of the ages to
meet your specific needs, won't you listen? To me
that is what God is all about. To make choices is my
responsibility. But having studied out a plan, I can
have a quiet time with God to see if I have overlooked
anything important. God is like our best self trying
to realize its full potential. Religion can be
repressive, but Jesus more of an existentialist than
you or I can hope to be. His choices were often
unpopular, but he didn't cave in.
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