Re: Super Scoopers
- I agree completely!! Very well put!
--- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, JOsh Man <fyamun@...> wrote:
> You guys are killing me! I am beginning to think this site is
dominated by a bunch of wanna be firefighters - not all that use this
site mind you - but a fair number - I was on the 1st alarm assignment
for the VERY 1st first time the scoopers were ever used in the LA
area ...just above Sunset & Laurel Canyon, Sept 1979 - they worked
very well in a fast moving fire threatening many homes - we had to
take cover under our rigs the fire came up so fast - and turn around
time for the Super Scoopers was only 6 minutes from the coast....we
needed them and were impressed with them - please if you are going
to talk about firefighting tactics and strategies here have some
training and experience...not just casual observations!
> CA has some excellent departments and experienced wildland
fireground officers - after all this state sees it all - please
comment on tactics and strategy only when/if you truly understand
> Art Deyo <adeyo@...> wrote:
> I witnessed the "Super Scoopers" in action during a Santa
> driven brush fire in LA County way back in 1980 (1978,79, and 80
> will rockin' fire seasons). The bomber came in low and drop their
> load of water. The water never made it to the base of the fire and
> hence, was ineffective. The water literally blew away with the
> Perhaps they were more effective once the winds abated.
> Media driven public policy is dangerous (just ask the
> cops).Politicians will start to appease the media pundits and
> the needs of the public. I suspect will we begin to see media
> public policy with the new DC-10 tanker and perhaps the rumored 727
> (or 747) under development.
> Just my observations. Art
> --- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@> wrote:
> > While looking for something else on Wikipedia I came across their
> > entry for the 1970 Laguna Fire in San Diego Co. and found this
> > anecdote I had not heard before:
> > At at time when high Santa Ana winds grounded other firefighting
> > aircraft, a representative of Canadair brought a CL-215 to
> > California to demonstrate its capabilities. He was turned away by
> > firefighting officials. Nevertheless, while other firefighting
> > aircraft were unable to fly safely he operated his "Super
> > of El Capitan Reservoir and dropped water on the Laguna Fire
> > he saw fit. The firefighting officials were unimpressed and such
> > aircraft are not used in southern California to fight fires to
> > day (with the exception of two CL-415s leased by Los Angeles
> > during the fire season).
> > Courtesy of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Fire
> > *Note: In my earlier entry on this thread I incorrectly stated the
> > Williams Fire in Yuba Co. occured in 2000 when it actually
> > 1997.
> > Kim
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- In case you don't monitor Twitter LA County PIO just put out a tweet on a live broadcast 10 AM today on the Super Scoopers press conference and tour at Van Nuys Airport using the Periscope App. see the tweet here LACounty Fire PIO on Twitter
Link to watch the Periscope video Now or later.
In case you don't monitor Twitter LA County PIO just put out a tweet on a live broadcast 10 AM today on the Super Scoopers press conference and tour at Van Nuys Airport using the Periscope App. see the tweet here LACounty Fire PIO on Twitter