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  • Barbara
    All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with
    Message 1 of 20 , Jun 30, 2012
      All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters. And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
    • William C. Wormuth
      Barbara, It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In My Town , Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia In January, I received emails from two men,
      Message 2 of 20 , Jun 30, 2012
        Barbara,

        It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia


        In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY.  Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum.  Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah].  They are working with people from Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.

        On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz.  He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).

        I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.

        Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.

        S Panem Bohom,

        Vilo





        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM
        Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


         
        All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.
        And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.




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      • Helen Fedor
        Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL UV? If I m not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country. About 30 years
        Message 3 of 20 , Jul 1, 2012
          Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV? If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country. About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.). I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H
          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          From: senzus@...
          Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700
          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


























          Barbara,



          It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia. In "My Town", K�ty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



          In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY. Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum. Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah]. They are working with people from Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.



          On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz. He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



          I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



          Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



          S Panem Bohom,



          Vilo



          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

          Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM

          Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE







          All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.

          And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.



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        • Inez Giles
          Helen, hi, interesting you mention ULUV. During a meeting two weeks ago, the ULUV museum director shared there was a KROJE exhibit at the Myjava folk festival.
          Message 4 of 20 , Jul 1, 2012
            Helen, hi, interesting you mention ULUV. During a meeting two weeks
            ago, the ULUV museum director shared there was a KROJE exhibit at the
            Myjava folk festival. Ever the mad kroje person, I made arrangements
            to visit the festival and saw not an exhibit of kroje but rather the
            exhibit of kroje pictures ULUV has compiled. Of course I was a bit
            disappointed but the pictures were still very interesting. I think
            these might be the kroje documentation to which you referred?

            I think ULUV has the photos assembled. I just cannot find any record
            they have published them. If you have additional questions, contact
            Dr. Zorka Wagner. She’s the ULUV librarian. She can be reached at
            library@... - Inez

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            From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Fedor
            Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:51 PM
            To: Slovak World
            Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


            Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV? If I'm not
            mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in
            the country. About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the
            drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral
            villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats,
            etc.). I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or
            series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H
            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            From: senzus@...
            Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700
            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


























            Barbara,



            It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia. In "My Town",
            Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



            In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah]
            and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original
            kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown,
            NY. Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built
            museum. Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica
            [Skahlee-tsah]. They are working with people from Moravia who are
            expert in Kroje making and preservation.



            On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that
            Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional
            Polka and Waltz waltz. He wants them to be prepared for dancing
            during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration
            of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast
            of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



            I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over
            Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



            Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would
            suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



            S Panem Bohom,



            Vilo



            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

            Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM

            Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE







            All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation
            american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown
            children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and
            food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the
            traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been
            to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and
            have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to
            Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom
            wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next
            attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to
            cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many
            documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language
            "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What
            bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage
            as well as my sisters.

            And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care
            either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I
            think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid
            that it is dying out in this family.



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          • William C. Wormuth
            Helen, Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address.  The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen
            Message 5 of 20 , Jul 1, 2012
              Helen,

              Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address.  The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.

              S Panem Bohem,

              Vilo



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              From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>
              To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM
              Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


              Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV?  If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country.  About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.).  I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H
              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              From: senzus@...
              Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700
              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE




















               


                 
                   
                   
                    Barbara,



              It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



              In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY.  Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum.  Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah].  They are working with people from Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.



              On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz.  He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



              I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



              Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



              S Panem Bohom,



              Vilo



              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

              Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM

              Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE





               

              All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.

              And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.



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            • Matchett
              Barbara, I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to
              Message 6 of 20 , Jul 1, 2012
                Barbara, I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to you. Include recipes of Slovak food, and any photos or documents of your Slovak ancestors. Your children might not be interested right now, but I'll bet at least one of them will wish they had, after your gone. I don't know how old you are, but I'm starting to feel my age and I occasionally write some stories of my own, growing up with Slovak parents.

                I started "interviewing" my mother a year before she passed away and have many stories of her childhood until she came to America at age 19. They are going into a small book that I'll have printed and spiral bound. I wish I'd done that when my father was alive. Julia Matchett


                On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Barbara wrote:

                > All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters. And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
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              • Barbara Kantor
                Thank you so much for helping me. I will take your suggestions. ________________________________ From: Matchett To:
                Message 7 of 20 , Jul 2, 2012
                  Thank you so much for helping me. I will take your suggestions.


                  ________________________________
                  From: Matchett <wmatchett@...>
                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 12:19 AM
                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                  Barbara,  I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to you.  Include recipes of Slovak food, and any photos or documents of your Slovak ancestors.  Your children might not be interested right now, but I'll bet at least one of them will wish they had, after your gone.  I don't know how old you are, but I'm starting to feel my age and I occasionally write some stories of my own, growing up with Slovak parents.

                  I started "interviewing" my mother a year before she passed away and have many stories of her childhood until she came to America at age 19.  They are going into a small book that I'll have printed and spiral bound.  I wish I'd done that when my father was alive.  Julia Matchett


                  On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Barbara wrote:

                  > All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.
                  And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
                  >
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                • Ben Sorensen
                  Barbara, do you speak any Slovak? If you do, it is easier to find CD s, books, and videos on youTube that might inspire them. :-) Everything from _Pacho,
                  Message 8 of 20 , Jul 2, 2012
                    Barbara, do you speak any Slovak? If you do, it is easier to find CD's, books, and videos on youTube that might inspire them. :-) Everything from _Pacho, Hybsky zbojnik_ to the Matko/Kubko series are delightful, funny, and would help you out. 

                    There is more to Slovakia than knitting, fujara, and kroj. It is more than food. The stories, the songs, and an understanding of the national heroes can only bolster their love for the old country.

                    Ben


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                    From: Barbara Kantor <eternallysealed8@...>
                    To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 7:35 PM
                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                     
                    Thank you so much for helping me. I will take your suggestions.

                    ________________________________
                    From: Matchett <wmatchett@...>
                    To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 12:19 AM
                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                    Barbara,  I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to you.  Include recipes of Slovak food, and any photos or documents of your Slovak ancestors.  Your children might not be interested right now, but I'll bet at least one of them will wish they had, after your gone.  I don't know how old you are, but I'm starting to feel my age and I occasionally write some stories of my own, growing up with Slovak parents.

                    I started "interviewing" my mother a year before she passed away and have many stories of her childhood until she came to America at age 19.  They are going into a small book that I'll have printed and spiral bound.  I wish I'd done that when my father was alive.  Julia Matchett

                    On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Barbara wrote:

                    > All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.
                    And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
                    >
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                  • sichva@junction.net
                    Barbara; I liked Julia s suggestions, too. My Slovak grandparents were both dead by the time I was 5 years old so I didn t have the opportunity to find out
                    Message 9 of 20 , Jul 2, 2012
                      Barbara;

                      I liked Julia's suggestions, too. My Slovak grandparents were both dead by the time I was 5 years old so I didn't have the opportunity to find out anything first hand from either of them. Some of my siblings got little snippets of stories but nothing was ever put together in one place that we could refer back to. It would have been a wonderful resource for our generation. Especially now, when I am planning to travel to Slovakia.

                      I suspect your family will appreciate it in the future - if not right now.

                      Shelly





                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Barbara Kantor
                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:35 PM
                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                      Thank you so much for helping me. I will take your suggestions.

                      ________________________________
                      From: Matchett <wmatchett@...>
                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 12:19 AM
                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                      Barbara, I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to you. Include recipes of Slovak food, and any photos or documents of your Slovak ancestors. Your children might not be interested right now, but I'll bet at least one of them will wish they had, after your gone. I don't know how old you are, but I'm starting to feel my age and I occasionally write some stories of my own, growing up with Slovak parents.

                      I started "interviewing" my mother a year before she passed away and have many stories of her childhood until she came to America at age 19. They are going into a small book that I'll have printed and spiral bound. I wish I'd done that when my father was alive. Julia Matchett

                      On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Barbara wrote:

                      > All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.
                      And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
                      >
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                    • Douglas Brough
                      All,   I share the idea about writing down the memories. I for one would be interested in reading it. Im also interested in how your grandparents lived with
                      Message 10 of 20 , Jul 3, 2012
                        All,
                         
                        I share the idea about writing down the memories. I for one would be interested in reading it. Im also interested in how your grandparents lived with the ethnic-German and Hungarian populations. What problems did they face? Were friendships strained during the war years? Were they glad to see them gone considering them as warmongers or did they consider them innocent of any crime etc etc etc.
                         
                        Take Care
                         
                        Douglas


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                        > From: "sichva@..." <sichva@...>
                        >To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                        >Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2012, 6:28
                        >Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE
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                        >Barbara;
                        >
                        >I liked Julia's suggestions, too. My Slovak grandparents were both dead by the time I was 5 years old so I didn't have the opportunity to find out anything first hand from either of them. Some of my siblings got little snippets of stories but nothing was ever put together in one place that we could refer back to. It would have been a wonderful resource for our generation. Especially now, when I am planning to travel to Slovakia.
                        >
                        >I suspect your family will appreciate it in the future - if not right now.
                        >
                        >Shelly
                        >
                        >----- Original Message -----
                        >From: Barbara Kantor
                        >To: mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com
                        >Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:35 PM
                        >Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE
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                        >Thank you so much for helping me. I will take your suggestions.
                        >
                        >________________________________
                        >From: Matchett <mailto:wmatchett%40cfl.rr.com>
                        >To: mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com
                        >Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 12:19 AM
                        >Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE
                        >
                        >Barbara, I think you should write down all you know of your Slovak parents/grandparents, where they came from, and any stories that have been passed on to you. Include recipes of Slovak food, and any photos or documents of your Slovak ancestors. Your children might not be interested right now, but I'll bet at least one of them will wish they had, after your gone. I don't know how old you are, but I'm starting to feel my age and I occasionally write some stories of my own, growing up with Slovak parents.
                        >
                        >I started "interviewing" my mother a year before she passed away and have many stories of her childhood until she came to America at age 19. They are going into a small book that I'll have printed and spiral bound. I wish I'd done that when my father was alive. Julia Matchett
                        >
                        >On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Barbara wrote:
                        >
                        >> All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.
                        >And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.
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                      • Helen Fedor
                        Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends. H To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com From: senzus@ymail.com Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700 Subject: Re:
                        Message 11 of 20 , Jul 3, 2012
                          Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends.
                          H

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                          From: senzus@...
                          Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700
                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


























                          Helen,



                          Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address. The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.



                          S Panem Bohem,



                          Vilo



                          ________________________________

                          From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>

                          To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>

                          Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM

                          Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE





                          Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV? If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country. About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.). I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          From: senzus@...

                          Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE













                          Barbara,



                          It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia. In "My Town", K�ty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



                          In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY. Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum. Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah]. They are working with people from Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.



                          On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz. He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



                          I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



                          Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



                          S Panem Bohom,



                          Vilo



                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                          Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM



                          Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE







                          All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.



                          And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.



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                        • William C. Wormuth
                          Helena, Diki Vam! S Panem Bohom, Vilo ________________________________ From: Helen Fedor To: Slovak World
                          Message 12 of 20 , Jul 3, 2012
                            Helena,

                            Diki Vam!

                            S Panem Bohom,

                            Vilo




                            ________________________________
                            From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>
                            To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:58 PM
                            Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                            Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends.
                            H

                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                            From: senzus@...
                            Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700
                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE




















                             


                               
                                 
                                 
                                  Helen,



                            Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address.  The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.



                            S Panem Bohem,



                            Vilo



                            ________________________________

                            From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>

                            To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>

                            Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM

                            Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE





                            Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV?  If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country.  About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.).  I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H

                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                            From: senzus@...

                            Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700

                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                             



                               

                                 

                                 

                                  Barbara,



                            It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



                            In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY.  Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum.  Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah].  They are working with people from Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.



                            On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz.  He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



                            I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



                            Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



                            S Panem Bohom,



                            Vilo



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM



                            Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                             



                            All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.



                            And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.



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                          • William C. Wormuth
                            Below is todays article in the Kúty News article concerning the subject. http://kuty.sk/ Vilo ________________________________ From: William C. Wormuth
                            Message 13 of 20 , Jul 4, 2012
                              Below is todays article in the Kúty News article concerning the subject.

                              http://kuty.sk/

                              Vilo


                              ________________________________
                              From: William C. Wormuth <senzus@...>
                              To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:53 PM
                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                              Helena,

                              Diki Vam!

                              S Panem Bohom,

                              Vilo



                              ________________________________
                              From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>
                              To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:58 PM
                              Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                              Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends.
                              H

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                              From: senzus@...
                              Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700
                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE




















                               


                                 
                                   
                                   
                                    Helen,



                              Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address.  The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.



                              S Panem Bohem,



                              Vilo



                              ________________________________

                              From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>

                              To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>

                              Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM

                              Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE





                              Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV?  If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country.  About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.).  I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              From: senzus@...

                              Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                               



                                 

                                   

                                   

                                    Barbara,



                              It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia



                              In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY.  Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum.  Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah].  They are working with people from
                              Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.



                              On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz.  He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).



                              I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.



                              Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.



                              S Panem Bohom,



                              Vilo



                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                              Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM



                              Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                               



                              All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents
                              of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.



                              And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family.



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                            • William C. Wormuth
                              Background for this topic:  SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com   Wednesday, July 4, 2012 6:47 PMVilo, I changed the topic to German Mahren in case you didn t see
                              Message 14 of 20 , Jul 4, 2012
                                Background for this topic:


                                 SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                 

                                Wednesday, July 4, 2012 6:47 PMVilo, I changed the topic to 'German Mahren' in case you didn't see it.
                                It's questionable if name etymology is off-topic. But if you do move it to
                                SW then let me know.

                                Peter M.

                                On 5 July 2012 08:39, William C. Wormuth <senzus@...> wrote:

                                 Ron,

                                 
                                I would like to further argue but on Slovak World because itt is rather
                                 
                                off Roots.

                                 
                                Awe c'mon!, it's fun an' intrestin'. Besides, Martin might get in to it..

                                 
                                Z Bohom,

                                 
                                Vilo

                                 
                                From: Ron <amiak27@...>
                                 
                                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                 
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:09 PM

                                 
                                Subject: Re: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka

                                 
                                Vilo,

                                 
                                We disagree, but I am happy for the conversation and thoughts to consider.

                                 
                                Yes, mention of the Morava River in Serbia is relevant simply because it
                                 
                                is sometimes confused with the Slovak-Czech Morava, and anyone researching
                                 
                                or reading about it should be aware, so they can avoid the confusion
                                 
                                themselves. There are even historians who have argued that Greater Moravia
                                 
                                was centered in Serbia rather than in Czecho-Slovakia.

                                 
                                On another point, I do not consider Morava and Mähren and Moravia
                                 
                                translations of one another. That would be like saying the Moldau and
                                 
                                Vltava are translations, when in reality they are two different names for
                                 
                                the same river.

                                 
                                Related, perhaps is the example Zuzanna and Zsuzsanna in Slovak and
                                 
                                Hungarian, differences in orthography of the different languages. We also
                                 
                                must consider how the orthography (spelling) has changed over time as
                                 
                                writing standards change.

                                 
                                150 years ago we would have said the Neanderthal skeleton was found in the
                                 
                                Neanderthal Valley. Today we say the Neanderthal skeleton was found in the
                                 
                                Neandertal Valley, a change in orthography, but not in the proper name.

                                 
                                Ron

                                 
                                --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "William C. Wormuth"

                                 
                                Ron,
                                 
                                Your statement, and should not even address the other Morava River in
                                 
                                Serbia,
                                 
                                "Die Morava (serbisch �'�µ�»�¸�º�°
                                 
                                Ã�Å"Ã�¾Ã`€Ã�°Ã�²Ã�°/Velika Morava, deutsch
                                 
                                auch Große Morava) ist ein rechter Nebenfluss der Donau und
                                 
                                Hauptfluss
                                 
                                Serbiens.".
                                 
                                The Morava mentioned in Slovakia would be Western Slovak border which
                                 
                                emptiest into the Danube which would be translated into Austrian German.Â
                                 
                                In Eastern Slovakia, the German would come from the early settlements there
                                 
                                by Germans.

                                 
                                I am interested and do not mean to "correct" you.
                                 
                                Z Bohom,

                                 
                                From: Ron <amiak27@...>
                                 
                                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 7:50 AM
                                 
                                Subject: Re: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka

                                For anyone having trouble reading this or any message with accent marks,
                                 
                                go to "View", "Character Encoding" and choose "UTF-8"

                                 
                                Peter, what readings lead you to believe Marchevka is based on German? I
                                 
                                am fluent in German and working on learning Slovak, so I am familiar with
                                 
                                how similar some of the words can be in different languages and how easy it
                                 
                                is to err in ascribing certain relationships.

                                 
                                It is handy to check things on www.google.de to get a German
                                 
                                perspective, which is often closer to the usual European view, as opposed
                                 
                                to our views from the USA. Sometimes there is much more detailed

                                 
                                In this case a quick look at the German Wiki entry yields "Die March
                                 
                                (tschechisch und slowakisch Morava, lat. Marus) ist ein linker Nebenfluss
                                 
                                der Donau in Mitteleuropa. Sie entwässert etwa drei Viertel des nach ihr
                                 
                                benannten Mähren und ist dessen Hauptfluss."

                                 
                                and that does not even address the other Morava River in Serbia,
                                 
                                "Die Morava (serbisch �'�µ�»�¸�º�°
                                 
                                Ã�Å"Ã�¾Ã`€Ã�°Ã�²Ã�°/Velika Morava, deutsch auch Große Morava) ist
                                 
                                ein rechter Nebenfluss der Donau und Hauptfluss Serbiens."

                                 
                                Also, why would you take it to the German and not to the older Latin?

                                 
                                Ron

                                In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, htcstech <htcstech@> wrote:

                                 
                                Vilo, Marchevka [Mahrrkhehv-kah] - From my readings, I'm pretty sure
                                 
                                that > this name is based on the German *Mähren* -> mährische for
                                 
                                Moravian. So > the name Marchevka and Marhefka are related in this way.
                                 
                                I'm interested in this name as I think it is related to Morav (Slav)
                                 
                                versions - eg Moravka - Moravko - Morafko - Marafko and so on.
                                 
                                Do you think this is a possiblity?

                                 
                                Peter M.

                                 
                                On 4 July 2012 15:22, William C. Wormuth <senzus@> wrote:

                                Marchevka [Mahrrkhehv-kah].
                                  http://telefonny.zoznam.sk/Marchevka/Jakubany/

                                 
                                From: "stibila@" <stibila@>
                                 
                                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                 
                                Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:55 AM

                                 
                                Subject: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka

                                 
                                Josif, Joseph, was born in Jakubany to Joannes Stucka, Stuczka, and
                                 
                                Anna
                                 
                                Marchevka, Marhefka. Josif was born in 1929 and is my Mother's
                                 
                                brother. He
                                 
                                moved to Czechoslovakia, somewhere around 1945 but before 1970. His
                                 
                                wife
                                 
                                was Maria, last name maybe Verka. They had 4 daughters. He may still
                                 
                                be
                                 
                                alive but we have no way of communicating with relatives in
                                 
                                Jakubany. If
                                 
                                any one knows anything about Josif, please post to the message board.
                                 
                                Someone did send me 2 Stucka phone numbers in Czech Republic and
                                 I
                                called them, but they did not speak English.


                                ________________________________
                                From: William C. Wormuth <senzus@...>
                                To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:04 AM
                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                                 
                                Below is todays article in the Kúty News article concerning the subject.

                                http://kuty.sk/

                                Vilo

                                ________________________________
                                From: William C. Wormuth <senzus@...>
                                To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:53 PM
                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                                Helena,

                                Diki Vam!

                                S Panem Bohom,

                                Vilo

                                ________________________________
                                From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>
                                To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:58 PM
                                Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE


                                Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends.
                                H

                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                                From: senzus@...
                                Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700
                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE
                                    
                                      Helen,

                                Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address.  The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.

                                S Panem Bohem,

                                Vilo

                                ________________________________

                                From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>

                                To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>

                                Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM

                                Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV?  If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country.  About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.).  I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H

                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                From: senzus@...

                                Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700

                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                      Barbara,

                                It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia.  In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia

                                In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY.  Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum.  Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah].  They are working with people from
                                Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.

                                On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz.  He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).

                                I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.

                                Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.

                                S Panem Bohom,

                                Vilo

                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM

                                Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents
                                of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.

                                And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family. Messages in this topic (13)



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                              • votrubam
                                ... Old Slavs used the word _morava_ or its plural _moravy_ to indicate marsh(es). In those days, they pronounced the modern [v] as [w]. The neighboring
                                Message 15 of 20 , Jul 4, 2012
                                  > Morava and Mähren and Moravia 
                                  > translations of one another.

                                  Old Slavs used the word _morava_ or its plural _moravy_ to indicate marsh(es). In those days, they pronounced the modern [v] as [w]. The neighboring Germanic tribes missed the [w] and adopted the place name name as Ma"hren, it eventually gave name to the whole Margraviate of Moravia. Several small, historically marshy localities scattered in the Slavic countries are called that, not just the two better known rivers.

                                  The loss of the Old Slavic [w] when a place name was adopted into a neighboring non-Slavic language happened with some regularity.

                                  ----- E.g., Pankow (originally a Slavic place name), an elegant borough of the former communist-ruled part of Berlin, is pronounced [panko] by Berliners, not [pankof] as one might expect.

                                  ----- Liptov (pronounced [liptow] then by the Slovaks' ancestors) was adopted as Lipto by the Ugric tribes when they arrived around 900 CE; Novohrad, originally Nov Grad ("New Castle") became Nograd in Hungarian, etc.


                                  Martin
                                • Helen Fedor
                                  What struck me about the name Marchevka is that, in the Zemplin dialect (one of the eastern ones, as is the Spis~ dialect), it means carrot . H To:
                                  Message 16 of 20 , Jul 5, 2012
                                    What struck me about the name Marchevka is that, in the Zemplin dialect (one of the eastern ones, as is the Spis~ dialect), it means 'carrot'.

                                    H




                                    To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                                    From: senzus@...
                                    Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 18:31:18 -0700
                                    Subject: [Slovak-World] German Mahren





                                    Background for this topic:

                                    SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com


                                    Wednesday, July 4, 2012 6:47 PMVilo, I changed the topic to 'German Mahren' in case you didn't see it.
                                    It's questionable if name etymology is off-topic. But if you do move it to
                                    SW then let me know.

                                    Peter M.

                                    On 5 July 2012 08:39, William C. Wormuth <senzus@...> wrote:

                                    Ron,


                                    I would like to further argue but on Slovak World because itt is rather

                                    off Roots.


                                    Awe c'mon!, it's fun an' intrestin'. Besides, Martin might get in to it..


                                    Z Bohom,


                                    Vilo


                                    From: Ron <amiak27@...>

                                    To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com

                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:09 PM


                                    Subject: Re: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka


                                    Vilo,


                                    We disagree, but I am happy for the conversation and thoughts to consider.


                                    Yes, mention of the Morava River in Serbia is relevant simply because it

                                    is sometimes confused with the Slovak-Czech Morava, and anyone researching

                                    or reading about it should be aware, so they can avoid the confusion

                                    themselves. There are even historians who have argued that Greater Moravia

                                    was centered in Serbia rather than in Czecho-Slovakia.


                                    On another point, I do not consider Morava and Mähren and Moravia

                                    translations of one another. That would be like saying the Moldau and

                                    Vltava are translations, when in reality they are two different names for

                                    the same river.


                                    Related, perhaps is the example Zuzanna and Zsuzsanna in Slovak and

                                    Hungarian, differences in orthography of the different languages. We also

                                    must consider how the orthography (spelling) has changed over time as

                                    writing standards change.


                                    150 years ago we would have said the Neanderthal skeleton was found in the

                                    Neanderthal Valley. Today we say the Neanderthal skeleton was found in the

                                    Neandertal Valley, a change in orthography, but not in the proper name.


                                    Ron


                                    --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "William C. Wormuth"


                                    Ron,

                                    Your statement, and should not even address the other Morava River in

                                    Serbia,

                                    "Die Morava (serbisch �'�µ�»�¸�º�°

                                    Ã�Å"Ã�¾Ã`€Ã�°Ã�²Ã�°/Velika Morava, deutsch

                                    auch Große Morava) ist ein rechter Nebenfluss der Donau und

                                    Hauptfluss

                                    Serbiens.".

                                    The Morava mentioned in Slovakia would be Western Slovak border which

                                    emptiest into the Danube which would be translated into Austrian German.Â

                                    In Eastern Slovakia, the German would come from the early settlements there

                                    by Germans.


                                    I am interested and do not mean to "correct" you.

                                    Z Bohom,


                                    From: Ron <amiak27@...>

                                    To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 7:50 AM

                                    Subject: Re: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka

                                    For anyone having trouble reading this or any message with accent marks,

                                    go to "View", "Character Encoding" and choose "UTF-8"


                                    Peter, what readings lead you to believe Marchevka is based on German? I

                                    am fluent in German and working on learning Slovak, so I am familiar with

                                    how similar some of the words can be in different languages and how easy it

                                    is to err in ascribing certain relationships.


                                    It is handy to check things on www.google.de to get a German

                                    perspective, which is often closer to the usual European view, as opposed

                                    to our views from the USA. Sometimes there is much more detailed


                                    In this case a quick look at the German Wiki entry yields "Die March

                                    (tschechisch und slowakisch Morava, lat. Marus) ist ein linker Nebenfluss

                                    der Donau in Mitteleuropa. Sie entwässert etwa drei Viertel des nach ihr

                                    benannten Mähren und ist dessen Hauptfluss."


                                    and that does not even address the other Morava River in Serbia,

                                    "Die Morava (serbisch �'�µ�»�¸�º�°

                                    Ã�Å"Ã�¾Ã`€Ã�°Ã�²Ã�°/Velika Morava, deutsch auch Große Morava) ist

                                    ein rechter Nebenfluss der Donau und Hauptfluss Serbiens."


                                    Also, why would you take it to the German and not to the older Latin?


                                    Ron

                                    In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, htcstech <htcstech@> wrote:


                                    Vilo, Marchevka [Mahrrkhehv-kah] - From my readings, I'm pretty sure

                                    that > this name is based on the German *Mähren* -> mährische for

                                    Moravian. So > the name Marchevka and Marhefka are related in this way.

                                    I'm interested in this name as I think it is related to Morav (Slav)

                                    versions - eg Moravka - Moravko - Morafko - Marafko and so on.

                                    Do you think this is a possiblity?


                                    Peter M.


                                    On 4 July 2012 15:22, William C. Wormuth <senzus@> wrote:

                                    Marchevka [Mahrrkhehv-kah].
                                    http://telefonny.zoznam.sk/Marchevka/Jakubany/


                                    From: "stibila@" <stibila@>

                                    To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com

                                    Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:55 AM


                                    Subject: [S-R] Josif Stucka, Stuczka


                                    Josif, Joseph, was born in Jakubany to Joannes Stucka, Stuczka, and

                                    Anna

                                    Marchevka, Marhefka. Josif was born in 1929 and is my Mother's

                                    brother. He

                                    moved to Czechoslovakia, somewhere around 1945 but before 1970. His

                                    wife

                                    was Maria, last name maybe Verka. They had 4 daughters. He may still

                                    be

                                    alive but we have no way of communicating with relatives in

                                    Jakubany. If

                                    any one knows anything about Josif, please post to the message board.

                                    Someone did send me 2 Stucka phone numbers in Czech Republic and
                                    I
                                    called them, but they did not speak English.

                                    ________________________________
                                    From: William C. Wormuth <senzus@...>
                                    To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                                    Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:04 AM
                                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE



                                    Below is todays article in the Kúty News article concerning the subject.

                                    http://kuty.sk/

                                    Vilo

                                    ________________________________
                                    From: William C. Wormuth <senzus@...>
                                    To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                                    Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:53 PM
                                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    Helena,

                                    Diki Vam!

                                    S Panem Bohom,

                                    Vilo

                                    ________________________________
                                    From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>
                                    To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>
                                    Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:58 PM
                                    Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    Ahoj Vilo,I just hope it pans out for your friends.
                                    H

                                    To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                                    From: senzus@...
                                    Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 15:33:42 -0700
                                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    Helen,

                                    Thanks, I forwarded all messages and I gave them your name and email. address. The message is very long but if you want a copy, I will send.Helen thanks again for your input.

                                    S Panem Bohem,

                                    Vilo

                                    ________________________________

                                    From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...>

                                    To: Slovak World <slovak-world@yahoogroups.com>

                                    Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 4:50 PM

                                    Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    Vilo,Have the two men been in contact with UL'UV? If I'm not mistaken, they planned to do a survey and document all the kroje in the country. About 30 years ago, I was allowed to take photos of the drawings they'd made of the traditional kroje in my two ancestral villages (women's warm weather everyday, men's wintertime overcoats, etc.). I don't know if they ever published the materials as a book or series of books, but maybe they could see the original materials. H

                                    To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                    From: senzus@...

                                    Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:32:21 -0700

                                    Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    Barbara,

                                    It is sad and the same thing is occurring in Slovakia. In "My Town", Kúty, Zahorie, Western Slovakia

                                    In January, I received emails from two men, Richard Drs~ka Drrrsh-kah] and Filip Hus~t'ava [Huhshtya-vah], requesting Photos of original kroje and other historical info from our immegrants here in Johnstown, NY. Their intention is to preserve them, locally in a yet to be built museum. Richard is employed in the Zahorie muzeum in Skalica [Skahlee-tsah]. They are working with people from
                                    Moravia who are expert in Kroje making and preservation.

                                    On Thursday, I was reading news from our kuty.sk site and saw that Filip has scheduled a gathering of youth, to teach our traditional Polka and Waltz waltz. He wants them to be prepared for dancing during our Hody [Hoh-dee] the yearly celebration of the consecration of our church, (ST. Josephs), held on the weekend closest to the feast of Our Lady of Snows, (Panenka Maria Sniez~u) (August 5th).

                                    I hope that this preservation work will occur in communities all over Slovakia, preserving our beautiful cultural heritage.

                                    Barbara, you are to be commended for your contributions and I would suggest you let the kids know how hurt your feelings are.

                                    S Panem Bohom,

                                    Vilo

                                    To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                    Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:48 PM

                                    Subject: [Slovak-World] SLOVAK HERITAGE

                                    All my ancestors are from Slovakia,I am second and third generation american. I have 4 sisters we do live far apart. I have 6 grown children. We grew up with Christmas and Easter Slovak traditions and food alike through out the year. I have raised my children with the traditions and the food in which I still make today. I have never been to Slovakia finances set me back from going.But I love to draw and have drawn many a scenery from pictures of Slovakia. I also listen to Slovak folk music and do much embroidery.I even made an heirloom wallhanging of the villages and pictures of the ancestors. My next attempt is to try Pysanky eggs. I have taught my daughters to cook,sew,other various crafts, housekeep,garden. I do have many documents
                                    of my ancestors including a 1857 book in the Czech language "Life of Jesus Christ" that my great grandfather brought here. What bothers me is that none of my children are interested in our heritage as well as my sisters.

                                    And I live here in rural Kentucky so not too many people care either.Can anyone give me some suggestions. I love my heritage and I think it is important it has such a beautiful culture and I am afraid that it is dying out in this family. Messages in this topic (13)

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                                  • votrubam
                                    ... That s what it is in Polish, too (marchew/marchewka). Both marchevka and mrkva, as well as the (north and east) German Mo hre (earlier also Morke/Mokra),
                                    Message 17 of 20 , Jul 5, 2012
                                      > What struck me about the name Marchevka is that,
                                      > in the Zemplin dialect (one of the eastern ones, as
                                      > is the Spis~ dialect), it means 'carrot'.

                                      That's what it is in Polish, too (marchew/marchewka). Both marchevka and mrkva, as well as the (north and east) German Mo"hre (earlier also Morke/Mokra), are linked to an old word for "root." The word used in the sense of "carrot" probably went from Germanic to Slavic (the -v- was added in Slavic declensions and eventually migrated to the nominative).


                                      Martin
                                    • Peter M
                                      Well that s fascinating and very significant to the work I m doing. So Marchevka (root meaning root ) has been otherwise spelt as Marhefka, which I assumed to
                                      Message 18 of 20 , Jul 5, 2012
                                        Well that's fascinating and very significant to the work I'm doing.
                                        So Marchevka (root meaning 'root') has been otherwise spelt as Marhefka, which I assumed to be of German origin from Mähren. If Marhefka means something else, then I'd be interested in that very much.

                                        Thanks

                                        Peter M.

                                        --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, "votrubam" <votrubam@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > > What struck me about the name Marchevka is that,
                                        > > in the Zemplin dialect (one of the eastern ones, as
                                        > > is the Spis~ dialect), it means 'carrot'.
                                        >
                                        > That's what it is in Polish, too (marchew/marchewka). Both marchevka and mrkva, as well as the (north and east) German Mo"hre (earlier also Morke/Mokra), are linked to an old word for "root." The word used in the sense of "carrot" probably went from Germanic to Slavic (the -v- was added in Slavic declensions and eventually migrated to the nominative).
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Martin
                                        >
                                      • votrubam
                                        ... Impossible; no historical or linguistic grounds for assuming that. It is a Polish and East-Slovak word for carrot (it may also occur as a regional
                                        Message 19 of 20 , Jul 5, 2012
                                          > Marhefka, which I assumed to be of German origin from Mähren.

                                          Impossible; no historical or linguistic grounds for "assuming" that. It is a Polish and East-Slovak word for "carrot" (it may also occur as a regional word elsewhere in the Slavic-speaking area). The meaning "root" was only present in old-Old German, and had already shifted to "carrot" by the Middle German period, but German never had the -v- in it -- that was inserted after the word entered the Slavic languages. The family name Marhefka means "carrot" and is Slavic in origin.


                                          Martin
                                        • Peter M
                                          Thanks Martin. I m happy that s been cleared up. Peter M.
                                          Message 20 of 20 , Jul 6, 2012
                                            Thanks Martin. I'm happy that's been cleared up.
                                            Peter M.

                                            --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, "votrubam" <votrubam@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > > Marhefka, which I assumed to be of German origin from Mähren.
                                            >
                                            > Impossible; no historical or linguistic grounds for "assuming" that. It is a Polish and East-Slovak word for "carrot" (it may also occur as a regional word elsewhere in the Slavic-speaking area). The meaning "root" was only present in old-Old German, and had already shifted to "carrot" by the Middle German period, but German never had the -v- in it -- that was inserted after the word entered the Slavic languages. The family name Marhefka means "carrot" and is Slavic in origin.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Martin
                                            >
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