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  • Ben Sorensen
    ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKYzl5EsoPE&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaTYi2uL7D0&feature=related  This is that OTHER side of
    Message 1 of 66 , Apr 9, 2012
      :-) When I played with Vagonar, I discovered that the most cruel, and well... FUN oblievacky and sibacky were with folkloristi. :-) 



      This is that OTHER side of folklore... but as Martin showed, it ain't just folkloristi who go out and do this.  
      And to think that many people have the day off just for this craziness. If I could do it here in the USA without the neighbors calling the cops, heck... I WOULD. :-)

      PS: I actually chose these so that Chuck would like the soundtrack... :-)

      From: votrubam <votrubam@...>
      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2012 9:11 PM
      Subject: [Slovak-World] Easter Monday - downpours forecast

      Now that it's Monday in Slovakia, these are some of the things that happen. Fast-edited for the 21st century with a soundtrack Chuck won't enjoy:


      Not always just the boys, the daughter is part of the conspiracy against Mum, too:


      If I got it, why not you? The girl shooting the video says at the beginning, "Giggle, giggle, what can you do, I was [nicely] dressed, too.":


      And in order to prevent the stairwell and apartment doorways from being drenched, these girls in a high-rise part of Poprad, Spis County, were chased out and filmed by their families, knowing what was to come:



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    • William C. Wormuth
      Mine got SOUSED! ________________________________ From: Caye Caswick To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      Message 66 of 66 , Apr 16, 2012
        Mine got SOUSED!

        From: Caye Caswick <ccaswick@...>
        To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:58 PM
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        My cousin in Slovakia got doused!

        From: Michelle Burke <mcmburke@...>
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 2:30 PM
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        I follow a Facebook page about the Buckeye Road neighborhood in Cleveland, from
        the Hungarian perspective, and the Hungarian members were recollecting the
        sprinkling tradition as a Hungarian tradition.  We didn't have that tradition in
        the Slovak part of the neighborhood, at least not in my family.

        From: "Mader, Michelle A. (GRC-CHC0)" <Michelle.A.Mader@...>
        To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 2:39:33 PM
        Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        In Cleveland they refer to it as Dyngus Day and it gets covered here by all the
        local stations. They're not covering Poland's observance, they're covering the
        observance in Cleveland.

        One thing that bugs be about our local coverage is that they seem to be under
        the impression that all of these traditions are isolated. Of course, nothing
        like the Dyngus Day traditions were done in Slovakia, or Croatia, or Slovenia,
        etc. They actually referred to Easter Bread as being a Polish tradition because
        they had a Polish baker on showing them how to make it. :(

        Michelle Maco Mader
        Cleveland, Ohio USA
        From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf Of LongJohn Wayne
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:16 PM
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        I am no longer surprised by the sanctimonious attitudes of the 'reporters' who
        act politically correct while preaching to us their supposed (& pretended)
        beliefs, while smirking, judging or mocking the traditions 'beneath' them off
        camera. Sometimes, as in this case, they cannot contain themselves & their true
        natures come through.

        From: Helen Fedor <helenfedor@...<mailto:helenfedor%40hotmail.com>>
        To: Slovak World
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:54 PM
        Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        It's called Szmyngus Dyngus. Long ago I worked with an older Polish fellow who,
        on every Easter Monday, would come around and gently sprinkle (not douse) the
        women in the office who knew of the custom with some cheap eau de cologne.
        Luckily, just a few of us understood, or the air would have reeked by the time
        he finished. ;-)


        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
        From: lkocik@...<mailto:lkocik%40comcast.net>
        Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:22:47 +0000
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        I don't know the source,maybe "E news, but on Comcast's home page last night,was
        a clip of Anderson Cooper reporting on a practice in Poland called phonetically;
        "Dingus" or maybe "dinkus" ??

        It is a tradition of young males douseing young woman with water and the girls
        retailliating using whips of braided willow branches.

        The clip was posted, not for the tradition, but because the usually stoic
        Anderson Cooper, had to actually walk off the set while it was still live
        because he broke out it a fit of uncontrollable laughter while reporting on the

        The tradition seems to go with this thread on the "dousings" in Slovakia. I
        thought the clip was more interesting because of Anderson Cooper's reaction. He
        could have been re-acting more to the word that sounded like "dinkus", but I
        would hope we, as Americans, have not become so "cultured" that we can't respect
        the traditions of the old world.


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        From: lkocik@...<mailto:lkocik%40comcast.net>
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:05:07 PM
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        .....In the 1950's Slovak neighborhood of my grandparents in Binghamton, N.Y.
        there was a tradition on Easter;... the kids would go door to door with braided
        willow branches and when the adults answered the door we would tap them [gently]
        on the forehead so they would stay strong of mind and then tap them on the hands
        so they would work ha rd. This would be rewarded with treats; candy,fruit,
        and/or coins. We called it "tapping" but the Slovak word would be phonetically
        something like schla-huting.

        A quick comment on what Ben said about the girls actually looking forward to the
        boys dousing them as in the video......

        William Shatner, in his role as Denny Crane on the t.v. series "Boston Legal"
        once said when he was defending a client in a sexual harassment suit;..."There
        is one thing worse for a woman than to be looked upon as a sexual object...that
        would be to not be looked upon as a sexual object ".

        We've gone way overboard with political correctness in this country and our
        children, mine included, are much to jaded to enjoy something so pure and
        simple. Thank God Slovakia hasn't caught up to America.

        Vesele Velikonoce [belated]

        larry kocik

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        From: "votrubam" <votrubam@...<mailto:votrubam%40yahoo.com>>
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 8:32:15 AM
        Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Easter Monday - downpours forecast

        > I was inquiring about your use of the term "fun."
        > My question was "fun for whom?"

        Here are a few comments from a discussion at a Slovak mothers' website:

        ---- I've always liked Easter although, at first, when the "dousers" came, I
        didn't know what face to show, but then it was always fun. We were 4 sisters,
        oh... all those plans how to block the bathroom... and then the windows were
        full of drying clothes as after a lot of laundry!

        ---- Our princess is 6, but she's already looking forward to "dousers" (I'm sure
        she'll lose the enthusiasm eventually). I'd rather go out for a hike.

        ---- Don't do it to her for sure, don't worry, she'll be a teenager soon and
        will love it.

        ---- I'm also wondering how to avoid it, but our daughter is looking forward to
        it so much that I can't bring myself to spoil it for her. Let me just add that
        we've been through worse; I am an obnoxious mom, aren't I?

        ---- We ignore the dousing, go to the ZOO each year. My husband and sons
        sprinkle us in the morning, and that's it. I'm nasty, I know, but I've deprived
        them of this.

        Some mothers expressed as little enthusiasm as Inez, which matches the history
        of the custom: traditionally, and as the videos show, through the present, it
        was mostly done by young, unmarried men to young unmarried women, often their
        love interests. The more "dousers" a girl had, the more marriable she appeared.
        The tradition has been waning for decades. There has been no research into how
        women truly feel about it today. Surely, some men dislike it, too.

        The tradition dates back to the ancient, pre-Christian times: the spring rite of
        cleansing, etc. It used to be more widespread in the distant past. The
        approximate Central European dividing line used to be "whipping" in the Czech
        lands and western Poland, water in Slovakia and north (Poland), south (Hungary)
        of it. The Slovaks eventually learned to do both.


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