Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: Hungarian Parliamentary sp eaker in row over Slovak âà ¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œwar•½ remarks

Expand Messages
  • allanstevo
    No problem, Chuck. Good luck. Let me know how it goes. Allan www.52inSk.com
    Message 1 of 8 , Jun 28, 2011
    • 0 Attachment
      No problem, Chuck. Good luck. Let me know how it goes.

      Allan
      www.52inSk.com
      --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks, Allan.
      >
      > I LOVE this website.  What a life-saver.
      >
      > --- On Thu, 6/23/11, allanstevo <allanstevo@...> wrote:
      >
      > From: allanstevo <allanstevo@...>
      > Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Hungarian Parliamentary speaker in row over Slovak “war� remarks
      > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 7:35 AM
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Chuck,
      >
      > The card will allow you to work in Slovakia, so it's a great card, but you really don't want to put your survival in the hands of the Slovak government. Getting this card might take a few weeks, but it also might take months.
      >
      >
      >
      > My suggestion is, if you can handle teaching and editing as fall back work, is to just show up in Slovakia on a tourist visa. The rest you can handle from here. As you meet people you'll learn about job offers. You will encounter barriers along the way, but I know that option is an entirely feasible one.
      >
      >
      >
      > A second option is to look at the international firms operating in Slovakia and to apply with one of them from overseas. Pay will usually be higher in these firms if you apply from overseas. You'll probably also be noticed a bit more. It's not every day that an HR rep in New York gets an email saying "I'll volunteer to go to the Slovak backwater that no one in your company ever volunteers to go to." You should be able to negotiate to have your ticket and some moving expenses paid for. A list of some big international firms can be found through the American Chamber of Commerce here in Slovakia - http://www.amcham.sk/.
      >
      >
      >
      > They are likely to be helpful with such matters, especially if you say "I'm an American who would like to move to Slovakia, would you be able to send me a few HR contacts for some of your American member firms so that I can apply for a job with them?" If AmCham isn't helpful, which I would highly doubt, then Dell, AT&T, IBM, US Steel, Johnson Controls are some big American firms here. The U.S. Embassy might also have some contacts (and even a job for you). Knowing Slovak will probably be a benefit, but will surely not be a requirement for finding a job. Knowing other languages will also be a benefit.
      >
      >
      >
      > The folks you find a job with will help you arrange a work visa and after they tell you that they like you, you might point out to them that you are eligible for a foreign born Slovak card, but I wouldn't recommend it since most people will be
      >
      >
      >
      > 1. totally unaware that such a card exists and will therefore not understand what foolishness you are speaking of, or
      >
      >
      >
      > 2. will be resentful that you, an outsider, have been offered some special privilege.
      >
      >
      >
      > However, if you wait until after you have this card and mention it to people, the reception is totally different. You are lauded and welcomed even more for this curious and unfamiliar laminated document that says "this guy has Slovak blood."
      >
      >
      >
      > If there is a considerable interest from people on the list in getting a Foreign Born Slovak Card, I could research the issue further and write a brief article on it in the future (perhaps 2 months down the road). It's probably manageable to do from the U.S. and I assume it would end up costing 150 or 200 dollars after all the translations are included and some government fee has been paid. If you would want someone to do the work for you, I could talk to a friend in Bratislava who's good with bureaucrats. It'll probably take him 10 or 15 hours and I assume he'll charge 100 dollars or so.
      >
      >
      >
      > The requirements, if I recall correctly are 1. that you are not currently wanted by the Slovak police on a warrant, 2. that your ancestor sometime in the past 2 or 3 generations came from Slovakia (you show a connection through birth certificates or baptismal records), 3. that you practice Slovak culture in some way â€" maybe know some history or show some ability to communicate in Slovak. My feeling is that the rules are flexible and that the office that handles these issues wants more people in the West to proudly consider themselves a foreign born Slovak.
      >
      >
      >
      > Good luck with the job search, Chuck. Let me know if I can be of assistance.
      >
      >
      >
      > Allan
      >
      > www.52inSk.com
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Allan:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Does this foreign born Slovak status allow one to obtain a Slovak passport & to work in SK?  I just got laid off on Thurs & this is a critical issue for me now.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Chuck
      >
      > >
      >
      > > --- On Sat, 6/18/11, allanstevo <allanstevo@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > From: allanstevo <allanstevo@>
      >
      > > Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Hungarian Parliamentary speaker in row over Slovak â€Å"war� remarks
      >
      > > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > > Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 6:12 PM
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >  
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Chuck,
      >
      > >
      >
      > > You raise a good point.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Something the Slovak government does offer Slovaks abroad, such as you or me or Slovaks in Bekes-Csaba, Hungary or Novy Sad, Serbia is foreign born Slovak status. It's not automatic ethnic-based citizenship, but it's pretty darn close and comes with a few benefits.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > But is doesn't allow a person to vote in Slovakia. Only citizens can vote. As far as I can tell, the Slovak government is worried that allowing ethnic Hungarians in Slovakia to vote in Hungary will change the Hungarian government in a way that will make it more extraterritorial. That's a fair arguments. I still think the line between what Hungary is trying to do with citizenship and what Slovaks try to do with foreign born Slovak status is gray.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > That being said, 10% of Hungarians citizens do not identify themselves as ethnic Slovaks. So, even if Slovakia is operating in an ethical gray area, I think the influence it has on Hungary is negligible.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Allan
      >
      > >
      >
      > > www.52inSk.com
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > So I assume in reciprocity, that all Slovak speaking people in Hungary, as well as areas of Hungary that are culturally Slovak, are part of Slovakia?  Or does logic, along w/ the path of water, stop @ the border?
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Chuck
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > --- On Fri, 6/17/11, allanstevo <allanstevo@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > From: allanstevo <allanstevo@>
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Hungarian Parliamentary speaker in row over Slovak â€Å"war� remarks
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Date: Friday, June 17, 2011, 4:19 PM
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >  
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > War's not a nice matter to joke about when you have such an elevated position. I appreciate you sharing this, C Varga Varga.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Allan
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > www.52inSk.com
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, "cvargacvarga" <colinpeire@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > > http://www.politics.hu/20110609/hungarian-parliamentary-speaker-in-row-over-slovak-war-remarks/
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
    Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.