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  • Lou
    In case you re not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968.
    Message 1 of 23 , Mar 10, 2011
      In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
      Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents, photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938; Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper); 978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc. <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres. SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
      Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

      Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek.  I once met a woman who said:  " You know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched his pants drying on the clothes line".
      When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best of everything.  Complaining doesn't change anything.

      Z Bohom,

      Vilo

      --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

      From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
      Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM







       









      Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom here.



      --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

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      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

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      > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend.  Were any of you there for this?  Most of the pictures are of Prague.  Does anyone have any links of the events in SK?

      >

      > chuck

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    • William C. Wormuth
      Lou, I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso. I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from invasion by Hitler.
      Message 2 of 23 , Mar 10, 2011
        Lou,

        I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

        I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from
        "invasion" by Hitler.


        Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.

        Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only
        exported from Slovakia.

        Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were
        Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

        This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they
        could enter the business world.


        When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by
        hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

        The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist
        propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
        Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

        I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

        I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

        My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My
        friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
        treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

        In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door
        warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young
        girls and any valuables.

        The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was
        raped, while on her death bed.

        Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the
        Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to
        Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was
        able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to
        escapees from Slovakia.

        Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German
        government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a
        pistol.

        Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

        Z Bohom,

        Vilo



        ________________________________
        From: Lou <lou@...>
        To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
        Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also


        In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of
        "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
        Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,
        photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
        Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a
        tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the
        rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
        978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
        <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.
        SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to
        your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in
        ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
        Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

        Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You
        know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched
        his pants drying on the clothes line".
        When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best
        of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

        Z Bohom,

        Vilo

        --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

        From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
        Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



        Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom
        here.

        --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

        >

        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

        >

        > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for
        >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the
        >events in SK?

        >

        > chuck

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      • smudsville@yahoo.com
        In hungary the jews weren t transported north until the end of the war, a time when germany knew it would lose. How does this compare to czechkoslovakian
        Message 3 of 23 , Mar 10, 2011
          In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time when germany knew it would lose.

          How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming slovakia be a roadblock?

          Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?

          I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was a more heinous form of "theft".

          Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.

          It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to foresee future.

          I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb


          Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

          -----Original Message-----
          From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
          Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58
          To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
          Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

          Lou,

          I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

          I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from
          "invasion" by Hitler.


          Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.

          Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only
          exported from Slovakia.

          Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were
          Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

          This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they
          could enter the business world.


          When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by
          hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

          The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist
          propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
          Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

          I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

          I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

          My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My
          friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
          treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

          In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door
          warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young
          girls and any valuables.

          The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was
          raped, while on her death bed.

          Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the
          Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to
          Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was
          able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to
          escapees from Slovakia.

          Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German
          government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a
          pistol.

          Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

          Z Bohom,

          Vilo



          ________________________________
          From: Lou <lou@...>
          To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
          Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also


          In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of
          "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
          Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,
          photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
          Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a
          tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the
          rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
          978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
          <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.
          SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to
          your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in
          ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
          Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

          Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You
          know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched
          his pants drying on the clothes line".
          When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best
          of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

          Z Bohom,

          Vilo

          --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

          From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
          Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



          Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom
          here.

          --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

          >

          > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

          >

          > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for
          >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the
          >events in SK?

          >

          > chuck

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          >

          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

          >

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        • William C. Wormuth
          It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.
          Message 4 of 23 , Mar 10, 2011
            It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It
            is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.
            These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various
            Religions....
            11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

            6 Million were Jews!

            Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust
            Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm






            ________________________________
            From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>
            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM
            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



            In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time
            when germany knew it would lose.


            How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming
            slovakia be a roadblock?


            Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty
            of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?


            I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and
            plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was
            a more heinous form of "theft".


            Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking
            in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people
            trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of
            times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.


            It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to
            foresee future.


            I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb


            Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

            -----Original Message-----
            From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
            Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58
            To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
            Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

            Lou,

            I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

            I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from
            "invasion" by Hitler.


            Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.


            Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only
            exported from Slovakia.

            Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were
            Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

            This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they
            could enter the business world.


            When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by
            hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

            The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist
            propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
            Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

            I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

            I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

            My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My
            friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
            treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

            In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door
            warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young
            girls and any valuables.

            The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was
            raped, while on her death bed.

            Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the
            Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to
            Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was
            able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to
            escapees from Slovakia.

            Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German

            government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a
            pistol.

            Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

            Z Bohom,

            Vilo



            ________________________________
            From: Lou <lou@...>
            To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
            Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also


            In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of
            "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
            Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,
            photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
            Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a
            tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the
            rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
            978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
            <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.
            SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to
            your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in

            ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
            Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
            Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

            Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You

            know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched
            his pants drying on the clothes line".
            When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best
            of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

            Z Bohom,

            Vilo

            --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

            From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
            Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



            Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom
            here.

            --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

            >

            > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

            >

            > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for

            >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the
            >events in SK?

            >

            > chuck

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            >

            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

            >

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          • smudsville@yahoo.com
            I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such success if that word is accurate.Many times I
            Message 5 of 23 , Mar 10, 2011
              I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.

              Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.

              Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."

              Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.

              It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.

              Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.

              I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.

              While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...

              Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...

              I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.

              You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.

              As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.

              I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb
              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

              -----Original Message-----
              From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
              Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16
              To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
              Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

              It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It
              is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.
              These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various
              Religions....
              11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

              6 Million were Jews!

              Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust
              Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm






              ________________________________
              From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>
              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM
              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



              In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time
              when germany knew it would lose.


              How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming
              slovakia be a roadblock?


              Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty
              of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?


              I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and
              plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was
              a more heinous form of "theft".


              Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking
              in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people
              trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of
              times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.


              It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to
              foresee future.


              I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb


              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

              -----Original Message-----
              From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
              Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58
              To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
              Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

              Lou,

              I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

              I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from
              "invasion" by Hitler.


              Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.


              Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only
              exported from Slovakia.

              Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were
              Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

              This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they
              could enter the business world.


              When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by
              hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

              The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist
              propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
              Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

              I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

              I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

              My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My
              friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
              treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

              In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door
              warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young
              girls and any valuables.

              The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was
              raped, while on her death bed.

              Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the
              Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to
              Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was
              able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to
              escapees from Slovakia.

              Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German

              government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a
              pistol.

              Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

              Z Bohom,

              Vilo



              ________________________________
              From: Lou <lou@...>
              To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
              Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also


              In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of
              "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
              Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,
              photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
              Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a
              tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the
              rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
              978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
              <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.
              SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to
              your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in

              ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

              -----Original Message-----
              From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
              Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
              Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

              Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You

              know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched
              his pants drying on the clothes line".
              When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best
              of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

              Z Bohom,

              Vilo

              --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

              From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
              Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



              Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom
              here.

              --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

              >

              > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

              >

              > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for

              >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the
              >events in SK?

              >

              > chuck

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

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            • William C. Wormuth
              Please do not confuse the Roma with Romanian, for although there is a very large population in Romania, there is no connection. Roma originated in Northern
              Message 6 of 23 , Mar 11, 2011
                Please do not confuse the Roma with Romanian, for although there is a very large
                population in Romania, there is no connection.

                Roma originated in Northern India. The history on the following site is good
                and will fulfill your need to read:

                http://www.religioustolerance.org/roma.htm

                Z Bohom,

                Vilo





                ________________________________
                From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>
                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 1:42:06 AM
                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries
                such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.

                Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree?
                If so, why.

                Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian
                lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary
                for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who
                hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest
                supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."

                Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.

                It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and
                spiritually more free.

                Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.

                I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs.
                Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.

                While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to
                slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a
                rusyn is not a russian...

                Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito
                was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for
                centuries...

                I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not
                quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new
                socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The
                humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.

                You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join
                take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is
                happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what
                hitler did.

                As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown
                churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs
                with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs
                would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous
                that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing
                pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them
                or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to
                conquer.

                I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
                Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was
                done...dlb

                Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                -----Original Message-----
                From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
                Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16
                To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It
                is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.
                These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various
                Religions....
                11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

                6 Million were Jews!

                Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust
                Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm






                ________________________________
                From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>
                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM
                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time
                when germany knew it would lose.


                How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming
                slovakia be a roadblock?


                Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty

                of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?


                I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and
                plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was

                a more heinous form of "theft".


                Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking
                in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people
                trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of
                times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.


                It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to
                foresee future.


                I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb


                Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                -----Original Message-----
                From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>
                Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58
                To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                Lou,

                I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

                I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from
                "invasion" by Hitler.


                Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.



                Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only
                exported from Slovakia.

                Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were
                Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

                This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they
                could enter the business world.


                When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by
                hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

                The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist
                propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
                Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

                I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

                I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

                My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My
                friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
                treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

                In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door
                warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young
                girls and any valuables.

                The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was
                raped, while on her death bed.

                Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the
                Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to
                Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was
                able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to
                escapees from Slovakia.

                Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German


                government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a
                pistol.

                Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

                Z Bohom,

                Vilo



                ________________________________
                From: Lou <lou@...>
                To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
                Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also


                In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of
                "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."
                Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,
                photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
                Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a
                tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the
                rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
                978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
                <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.
                SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to
                your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in


                ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On
                Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
                Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You


                know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched
                his pants drying on the clothes line".
                When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best
                of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

                Z Bohom,

                Vilo

                --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

                From: genmom4 <geismom@...>
                Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



                Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom
                here.

                --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

                >

                > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

                >

                > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for


                >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the
                >events in SK?

                >

                > chuck

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

                >

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              • LongJohn Wayne
                What an incredible post.  Don t know where to start. ... From: smudsville@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see
                Message 7 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                  What an incredible post.  Don't know where to start.

                  --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:

                  From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>
                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM







                   











                  I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.



                  Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.



                  Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."



                  Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.



                  It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.



                  Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.



                  I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.



                  While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...



                  Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...



                  I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.



                  You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.



                  As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.



                  I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb


                  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry





                  -----Original Message-----


                  From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>


                  Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16


                  To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>


                  Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also





                  It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It


                  is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.


                  These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various


                  Religions....


                  11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!





                  6 Million were Jews!





                  Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust


                  Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm




















                  ________________________________


                  From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>


                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM


                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also











                  In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time


                  when germany knew it would lose.








                  How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming


                  slovakia be a roadblock?








                  Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty


                  of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?








                  I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and


                  plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was


                  a more heinous form of "theft".








                  Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking


                  in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people


                  trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of


                  times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.








                  It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to


                  foresee future.








                  I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb








                  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry





                  -----Original Message-----


                  From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>


                  Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58


                  To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>


                  Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also





                  Lou,





                  I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.





                  I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from


                  "invasion" by Hitler.








                  Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.








                  Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only


                  exported from Slovakia.





                  Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were


                  Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.





                  This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they


                  could enter the business world.








                  When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by


                  hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.





                  The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist


                  propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.


                  Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.





                  I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.





                  I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.





                  My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My


                  friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,


                  treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.





                  In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door


                  warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young


                  girls and any valuables.





                  The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was


                  raped, while on her death bed.





                  Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the


                  Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to


                  Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was


                  able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to


                  escapees from Slovakia.





                  Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German





                  government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a


                  pistol.





                  Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.





                  Z Bohom,





                  Vilo











                  ________________________________


                  From: Lou <lou@...>


                  To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>


                  Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM


                  Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also








                  In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of


                  "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."


                  Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,


                  photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;


                  Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a


                  tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the


                  rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);


                  978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.


                  <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.


                  SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to


                  your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in





                  ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.





                  -----Original Message-----


                  From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On


                  Behalf Of William C. Wormuth


                  Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM


                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring





                  Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You





                  know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched


                  his pants drying on the clothes line".


                  When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best


                  of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.





                  Z Bohom,





                  Vilo





                  --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:





                  From: genmom4 <geismom@...>


                  Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring


                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                  Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM











                  Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom


                  here.





                  --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:





                  >





                  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g





                  >





                  > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for





                  >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the


                  >events in SK?





                  >





                  > chuck





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                  ... Where does one start? Bill Brna [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  Message 8 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                    On 3/15/2011 1:05 PM, LongJohn Wayne wrote:
                    >
                    > What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.
                    >
                    > --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@...
                    > <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com> <smudsville@...
                    > <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                    >
                    > From: smudsville@... <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com>
                    > <smudsville@... <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com>>
                    > Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                    > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy
                    > that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is
                    > accurate.
                    >
                    > Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do
                    > you agree? If so, why.
                    >
                    > Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back
                    > romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did,
                    > shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I
                    > work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't
                    > understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself
                    > "in the barrel."
                    >
                    > Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.
                    >
                    > It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated
                    > and spiritually more free.
                    >
                    > Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.
                    >
                    > I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak
                    > listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their
                    > wwII past.
                    >
                    > While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to
                    > slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in,
                    > unless a rusyn is not a russian...
                    >
                    > Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way
                    > as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european
                    > conquerors did for centuries...
                    >
                    > I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but
                    > am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are
                    > fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship
                    > or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent
                    > themselves to be.
                    >
                    > You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If
                    > you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing
                    > listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is
                    > little different than what hitler did.
                    >
                    > As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like
                    > allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa
                    > legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even
                    > allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders.
                    > While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never
                    > happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet
                    > privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to
                    > them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make
                    > themselves easier to conquer.
                    >
                    > I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the
                    > same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in
                    > how it was done...dlb
                    >
                    > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
                    >
                    > -----Original Message-----
                    >
                    > From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@... <mailto:senzus%40ymail.com>>
                    >
                    > Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16
                    >
                    > To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>>
                    >
                    > Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                    >
                    > It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the
                    > Holocaust. It
                    >
                    > is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were
                    > slaughtered.
                    >
                    > These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various
                    >
                    > Religions....
                    >
                    > 11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!
                    >
                    > 6 Million were Jews!
                    >
                    > Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust
                    >
                    > Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm
                    >
                    > ________________________________
                    >
                    > From: "smudsville@... <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com>"
                    > <smudsville@... <mailto:smudsville%40yahoo.com>>
                    >
                    > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM
                    >
                    > Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                    >
                    > In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the
                    > war, a time
                    >
                    > when germany knew it would lose.
                    >
                    > How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would
                    > forming
                    >
                    > slovakia be a roadblock?
                    >
                    > Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed
                    > by treaty
                    >
                    > of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected
                    > and how?
                    >
                    > I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and
                    >
                    > plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in
                    > the war was
                    >
                    > a more heinous form of "theft".
                    >
                    > Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the
                    > outside looking
                    >
                    > in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather
                    > people
                    >
                    > trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most
                    > trying of
                    >
                    > times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.
                    >
                    > It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the
                    > ability to
                    >
                    > foresee future.
                    >
                    > I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb
                    >
                    > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
                    >
                    > -----Original Message-----
                    >
                    > From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@... <mailto:senzus%40ymail.com>>
                    >
                    > Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58
                    >
                    > To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>>
                    >
                    > Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                    >
                    > Lou,
                    >
                    > I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.
                    >
                    > I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia
                    > from
                    >
                    > "invasion" by Hitler.
                    >
                    > Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during
                    > the reign.
                    >
                    > Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered
                    > but only
                    >
                    > exported from Slovakia.
                    >
                    > Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations
                    > were
                    >
                    > Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.
                    >
                    > This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally
                    > they
                    >
                    > could enter the business world.
                    >
                    > When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the
                    > responded by
                    >
                    > hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.
                    >
                    > The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso ,
                    > communist
                    >
                    > propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.
                    >
                    > Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad "
                    > he was.
                    >
                    > I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.
                    >
                    > I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.
                    >
                    > My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very
                    > negative. My
                    >
                    > friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,
                    >
                    > treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own
                    > towns.
                    >
                    > In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went
                    > door, to door
                    >
                    > warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide
                    > their young
                    >
                    > girls and any valuables.
                    >
                    > The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins
                    > grandmother was
                    >
                    > raped, while on her death bed.
                    >
                    > Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating
                    > to the
                    >
                    > Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was
                    > secretary to
                    >
                    > Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he
                    > was
                    >
                    > able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he
                    > administered to
                    >
                    > escapees from Slovakia.
                    >
                    > Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to
                    > the German
                    >
                    > government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies,
                    > holding a
                    >
                    > pistol.
                    >
                    > Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.
                    >
                    > Z Bohom,
                    >
                    > Vilo
                    >
                    > ________________________________
                    >
                    > From: Lou <lou@... <mailto:lou%40bolchazy.com>>
                    >
                    > To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>>
                    >
                    > Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM
                    >
                    > Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                    >
                    > In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the
                    > publisher of
                    >
                    > "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA,
                    > 1968."
                    >
                    > Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new
                    > documents,
                    >
                    > photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;
                    >
                    > Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia.
                    > It's a
                    >
                    > tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords,
                    > while the
                    >
                    > rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);
                    >
                    > 978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.
                    >
                    > <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy,
                    > Pres.
                    >
                    > SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this
                    > book to
                    >
                    > your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK
                    > BOOKS in
                    >
                    > ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.
                    >
                    > -----Original Message-----
                    >
                    > From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                    >
                    > Behalf Of William C. Wormuth
                    >
                    > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM
                    >
                    > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
                    >
                    > Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who
                    > said: " You
                    >
                    > know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I
                    > even touched
                    >
                    > his pants drying on the clothes line".
                    >
                    > When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make
                    > the best
                    >
                    > of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.
                    >
                    > Z Bohom,
                    >
                    > Vilo
                    >
                    > --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...
                    > <mailto:geismom%40comcast.net>> wrote:
                    >
                    > From: genmom4 <geismom@... <mailto:geismom%40comcast.net>>
                    >
                    > Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring
                    >
                    > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>
                    >
                    > Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM
                    >
                    > Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my
                    > freedom
                    >
                    > here.
                    >
                    > --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:Slovak-World%40yahoogroups.com>, LongJohn Wayne
                    > <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you
                    > there for
                    >
                    > >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links
                    > of the
                    >
                    > >events in SK?
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > > chuck
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > >
                    >
                    > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >
                    > >
                    >
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                    >
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
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                    Where does one start?

                    Bill Brna


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                  • LongJohn Wayne
                    Isn t that what this site is all about?  Comments, questions, & responses? Are you well, Jack? ... From: Gergely Subject: Re:
                    Message 9 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                      Isn't that what this site is all about?  Comments, questions, & responses?

                      Are you well, Jack?

                      --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                      From: Gergely <gergely@...>
                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:38 PM







                       









                      Why bother?

                      Jack gergely

                      Newport News

                      ----- Original Message -----

                      From: LongJohn Wayne

                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                      Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM

                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                      What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.



                      --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:



                      From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>

                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                      Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM



                      I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.



                      Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.



                      Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."



                      Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.



                      It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.



                      Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.



                      I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.



                      While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...



                      Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...



                      I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.



                      You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.



                      As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.



                      I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb



                      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



                      -----Original Message-----



                      From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>



                      Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16



                      To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                      Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                      It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It



                      is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.



                      These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various



                      Religions....



                      11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!



                      6 Million were Jews!



                      Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust



                      Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm



                      ________________________________



                      From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>



                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM



                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                      In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time



                      when germany knew it would lose.



                      How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming



                      slovakia be a roadblock?



                      Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty



                      of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?



                      I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and



                      plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was



                      a more heinous form of "theft".



                      Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking



                      in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people



                      trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of



                      times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.



                      It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to



                      foresee future.



                      I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb



                      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



                      -----Original Message-----



                      From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>



                      Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58



                      To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                      Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                      Lou,



                      I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.



                      I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from



                      "invasion" by Hitler.



                      Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.



                      Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only



                      exported from Slovakia.



                      Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were



                      Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.



                      This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they



                      could enter the business world.



                      When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by



                      hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.



                      The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist



                      propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.



                      Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.



                      I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.



                      I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.



                      My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My



                      friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,



                      treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.



                      In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door



                      warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young



                      girls and any valuables.



                      The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was



                      raped, while on her death bed.



                      Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the



                      Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to



                      Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was



                      able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to



                      escapees from Slovakia.



                      Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German



                      government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a



                      pistol.



                      Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.



                      Z Bohom,



                      Vilo



                      ________________________________



                      From: Lou <lou@...>



                      To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                      Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM



                      Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                      In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of



                      "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."



                      Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,



                      photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;



                      Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a



                      tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the



                      rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);



                      978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.



                      <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.



                      SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to



                      your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in



                      ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.



                      -----Original Message-----



                      From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On



                      Behalf Of William C. Wormuth



                      Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM



                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                      Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You



                      know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched



                      his pants drying on the clothes line".



                      When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best



                      of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.



                      Z Bohom,



                      Vilo



                      --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:



                      From: genmom4 <geismom@...>



                      Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                      To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                      Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



                      Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom



                      here.



                      --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:



                      >



                      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g



                      >



                      > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for



                      >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the



                      >events in SK?



                      >



                      > chuck



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



                      >



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                    • Gergely
                      Why bother? Jack gergely Newport News ... From: LongJohn Wayne To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM Subject: Re:
                      Message 10 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                        Why bother?
                        Jack gergely
                        Newport News
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: LongJohn Wayne
                        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM
                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                        What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.

                        --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:

                        From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>
                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM



                        I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.

                        Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.

                        Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."

                        Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.

                        It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.

                        Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.

                        I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.

                        While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...

                        Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...

                        I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.

                        You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.

                        As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.

                        I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb

                        Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                        -----Original Message-----

                        From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                        Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16

                        To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                        Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                        It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It

                        is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.

                        These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various

                        Religions....

                        11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

                        6 Million were Jews!

                        Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust

                        Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm

                        ________________________________

                        From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>

                        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM

                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                        In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time

                        when germany knew it would lose.

                        How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming

                        slovakia be a roadblock?

                        Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty

                        of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?

                        I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and

                        plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was

                        a more heinous form of "theft".

                        Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking

                        in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people

                        trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of

                        times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.

                        It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to

                        foresee future.

                        I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb

                        Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                        -----Original Message-----

                        From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                        Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58

                        To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                        Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                        Lou,

                        I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

                        I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from

                        "invasion" by Hitler.

                        Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.

                        Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only

                        exported from Slovakia.

                        Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were

                        Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

                        This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they

                        could enter the business world.

                        When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by

                        hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

                        The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist

                        propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.

                        Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

                        I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

                        I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

                        My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My

                        friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,

                        treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

                        In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door

                        warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young

                        girls and any valuables.

                        The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was

                        raped, while on her death bed.

                        Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the

                        Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to

                        Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was

                        able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to

                        escapees from Slovakia.

                        Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German

                        government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a

                        pistol.

                        Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

                        Z Bohom,

                        Vilo

                        ________________________________

                        From: Lou <lou@...>

                        To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                        Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM

                        Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                        In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of

                        "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."

                        Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,

                        photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;

                        Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a

                        tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the

                        rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);

                        978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.

                        <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.

                        SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to

                        your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in

                        ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

                        -----Original Message-----

                        From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On

                        Behalf Of William C. Wormuth

                        Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM

                        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                        Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You

                        know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched

                        his pants drying on the clothes line".

                        When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best

                        of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

                        Z Bohom,

                        Vilo

                        --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

                        From: genmom4 <geismom@...>

                        Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                        To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                        Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM

                        Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom

                        here.

                        --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

                        >

                        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

                        >

                        > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for

                        >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the

                        >events in SK?

                        >

                        > chuck

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                      • Gergely
                        Yeah, I m Ok, but it was so rambling with so many subjects, I couldn t make heads or tails out of it. Maybe you can do better. Jack Gergely Newport News ...
                        Message 11 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                          Yeah, I'm Ok, but it was so rambling with so many subjects, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. Maybe you can do better.
                          Jack Gergely
                          Newport News
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: LongJohn Wayne
                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:37 PM
                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                          Isn't that what this site is all about? Comments, questions, & responses?

                          Are you well, Jack?

                          --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                          From: Gergely <gergely@...>
                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:38 PM



                          Why bother?

                          Jack gergely

                          Newport News

                          ----- Original Message -----

                          From: LongJohn Wayne

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.

                          --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:

                          From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM

                          I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.

                          Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.

                          Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."

                          Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.

                          It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.

                          Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.

                          I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.

                          While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...

                          Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...

                          I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.

                          You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.

                          As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.

                          I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb

                          Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                          -----Original Message-----

                          From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                          Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16

                          To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                          Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It

                          is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.

                          These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various

                          Religions....

                          11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

                          6 Million were Jews!

                          Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust

                          Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm

                          ________________________________

                          From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time

                          when germany knew it would lose.

                          How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming

                          slovakia be a roadblock?

                          Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty

                          of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?

                          I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and

                          plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was

                          a more heinous form of "theft".

                          Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking

                          in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people

                          trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of

                          times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.

                          It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to

                          foresee future.

                          I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb

                          Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                          -----Original Message-----

                          From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                          Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58

                          To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                          Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          Lou,

                          I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

                          I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from

                          "invasion" by Hitler.

                          Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.

                          Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only

                          exported from Slovakia.

                          Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were

                          Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

                          This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they

                          could enter the business world.

                          When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by

                          hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

                          The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist

                          propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.

                          Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

                          I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

                          I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

                          My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My

                          friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,

                          treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

                          In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door

                          warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young

                          girls and any valuables.

                          The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was

                          raped, while on her death bed.

                          Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the

                          Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to

                          Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was

                          able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to

                          escapees from Slovakia.

                          Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German

                          government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a

                          pistol.

                          Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

                          Z Bohom,

                          Vilo

                          ________________________________

                          From: Lou <lou@...>

                          To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                          Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM

                          Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                          In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of

                          "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."

                          Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,

                          photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;

                          Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a

                          tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the

                          rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);

                          978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.

                          <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.

                          SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to

                          your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in

                          ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

                          -----Original Message-----

                          From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On

                          Behalf Of William C. Wormuth

                          Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                          Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You

                          know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched

                          his pants drying on the clothes line".

                          When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best

                          of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

                          Z Bohom,

                          Vilo

                          --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

                          From: genmom4 <geismom@...>

                          Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                          To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                          Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM

                          Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom

                          here.

                          --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

                          >

                          > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

                          >

                          > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for

                          >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the

                          >events in SK?

                          >

                          > chuck

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                        • LongJohn Wayne
                          That s what I mean.  We could each go off on a tangent. ... From: Gergely Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also To:
                          Message 12 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                            That's what I mean.  We could each go off on a tangent.

                            --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                            From: Gergely <gergely@...>
                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                            Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:52 PM







                             









                            Yeah, I'm Ok, but it was so rambling with so many subjects, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. Maybe you can do better.

                            Jack Gergely

                            Newport News

                            ----- Original Message -----

                            From: LongJohn Wayne

                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                            Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:37 PM

                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            Isn't that what this site is all about? Comments, questions, & responses?



                            Are you well, Jack?



                            --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:



                            From: Gergely <gergely@...>

                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                            Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:38 PM



                            Why bother?



                            Jack gergely



                            Newport News



                            ----- Original Message -----



                            From: LongJohn Wayne



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.



                            --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:



                            From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM



                            I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.



                            Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.



                            Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."



                            Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.



                            It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.



                            Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.



                            I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.



                            While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...



                            Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...



                            I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.



                            You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.



                            As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.



                            I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb



                            Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



                            -----Original Message-----



                            From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>



                            Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16



                            To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                            Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It



                            is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.



                            These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various



                            Religions....



                            11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!



                            6 Million were Jews!



                            Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust



                            Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm



                            ________________________________



                            From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time



                            when germany knew it would lose.



                            How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming



                            slovakia be a roadblock?



                            Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty



                            of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?



                            I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and



                            plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was



                            a more heinous form of "theft".



                            Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking



                            in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people



                            trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of



                            times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.



                            It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to



                            foresee future.



                            I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb



                            Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



                            -----Original Message-----



                            From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>



                            Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58



                            To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                            Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            Lou,



                            I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.



                            I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from



                            "invasion" by Hitler.



                            Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.



                            Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only



                            exported from Slovakia.



                            Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were



                            Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.



                            This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they



                            could enter the business world.



                            When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by



                            hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.



                            The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist



                            propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.



                            Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.



                            I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.



                            I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.



                            My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My



                            friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,



                            treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.



                            In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door



                            warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young



                            girls and any valuables.



                            The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was



                            raped, while on her death bed.



                            Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the



                            Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to



                            Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was



                            able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to



                            escapees from Slovakia.



                            Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German



                            government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a



                            pistol.



                            Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.



                            Z Bohom,



                            Vilo



                            ________________________________



                            From: Lou <lou@...>



                            To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                            Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM



                            Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                            In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of



                            "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."



                            Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,



                            photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;



                            Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a



                            tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the



                            rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);



                            978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.



                            <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.



                            SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to



                            your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in



                            ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.



                            -----Original Message-----



                            From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On



                            Behalf Of William C. Wormuth



                            Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                            Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You



                            know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched



                            his pants drying on the clothes line".



                            When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best



                            of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.



                            Z Bohom,



                            Vilo



                            --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:



                            From: genmom4 <geismom@...>



                            Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                            Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



                            Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom



                            here.



                            --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:



                            >



                            > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g



                            >



                            > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for



                            >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the



                            >events in SK?



                            >



                            > chuck



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                          • Gergely
                            Yeah, I guess I did go a little V Linder on the guy. My apologies to Mr. Smudsville. Jack Gergely ... From: LongJohn Wayne To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                            Message 13 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                              Yeah, I guess I did go a little V Linder on the guy.
                              My apologies to Mr. Smudsville.

                              Jack Gergely
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: LongJohn Wayne
                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:19 PM
                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                              That's what I mean. We could each go off on a tangent.

                              --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                              From: Gergely <gergely@...>
                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:52 PM



                              Yeah, I'm Ok, but it was so rambling with so many subjects, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. Maybe you can do better.

                              Jack Gergely

                              Newport News

                              ----- Original Message -----

                              From: LongJohn Wayne

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:37 PM

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              Isn't that what this site is all about? Comments, questions, & responses?

                              Are you well, Jack?

                              --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                              From: Gergely <gergely@...>

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:38 PM

                              Why bother?

                              Jack gergely

                              Newport News

                              ----- Original Message -----

                              From: LongJohn Wayne

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.

                              --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:

                              From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM

                              I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.

                              Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.

                              Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."

                              Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.

                              It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.

                              Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.

                              I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.

                              While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...

                              Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...

                              I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.

                              You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.

                              As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.

                              I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb

                              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                              -----Original Message-----

                              From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                              Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16

                              To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                              Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It

                              is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.

                              These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various

                              Religions....

                              11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!

                              6 Million were Jews!

                              Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust

                              Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm

                              ________________________________

                              From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time

                              when germany knew it would lose.

                              How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming

                              slovakia be a roadblock?

                              Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty

                              of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?

                              I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and

                              plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was

                              a more heinous form of "theft".

                              Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking

                              in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people

                              trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of

                              times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.

                              It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to

                              foresee future.

                              I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb

                              Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

                              -----Original Message-----

                              From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>

                              Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58

                              To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                              Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              Lou,

                              I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.

                              I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from

                              "invasion" by Hitler.

                              Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.

                              Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only

                              exported from Slovakia.

                              Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were

                              Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.

                              This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they

                              could enter the business world.

                              When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by

                              hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.

                              The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist

                              propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.

                              Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.

                              I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.

                              I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.

                              My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My

                              friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,

                              treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.

                              In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door

                              warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young

                              girls and any valuables.

                              The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was

                              raped, while on her death bed.

                              Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the

                              Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to

                              Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was

                              able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to

                              escapees from Slovakia.

                              Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German

                              government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a

                              pistol.

                              Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.

                              Z Bohom,

                              Vilo

                              ________________________________

                              From: Lou <lou@...>

                              To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>

                              Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM

                              Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                              In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of

                              "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."

                              Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,

                              photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;

                              Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a

                              tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the

                              rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);

                              978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.

                              <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.

                              SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to

                              your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in

                              ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.

                              -----Original Message-----

                              From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On

                              Behalf Of William C. Wormuth

                              Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                              Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You

                              know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched

                              his pants drying on the clothes line".

                              When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best

                              of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.

                              Z Bohom,

                              Vilo

                              --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:

                              From: genmom4 <geismom@...>

                              Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring

                              To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                              Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM

                              Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom

                              here.

                              --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:

                              >

                              > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g

                              >

                              > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for

                              >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the

                              >events in SK?

                              >

                              > chuck

                              >

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                            • LongJohn Wayne
                              Not that bad.  Just not your usual congenial self. ... From: Gergely Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also To:
                              Message 14 of 23 , Mar 15, 2011
                                Not that bad.  Just not your usual congenial self.

                                --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:

                                From: Gergely <gergely@...>
                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                                Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 2:29 PM







                                 









                                Yeah, I guess I did go a little V Linder on the guy.

                                My apologies to Mr. Smudsville.



                                Jack Gergely

                                ----- Original Message -----

                                From: LongJohn Wayne

                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:19 PM

                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                That's what I mean. We could each go off on a tangent.



                                --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:



                                From: Gergely <gergely@...>

                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also

                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com

                                Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:52 PM



                                Yeah, I'm Ok, but it was so rambling with so many subjects, I couldn't make heads or tails out of it. Maybe you can do better.



                                Jack Gergely



                                Newport News



                                ----- Original Message -----



                                From: LongJohn Wayne



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:37 PM



                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                Isn't that what this site is all about? Comments, questions, & responses?



                                Are you well, Jack?



                                --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Gergely <gergely@...> wrote:



                                From: Gergely <gergely@...>



                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:38 PM



                                Why bother?



                                Jack gergely



                                Newport News



                                ----- Original Message -----



                                From: LongJohn Wayne



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:05 PM



                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                What an incredible post. Don't know where to start.



                                --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:



                                From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>



                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM



                                I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.



                                Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.



                                Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."



                                Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.



                                It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.



                                Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.



                                I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.



                                While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...



                                Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...



                                I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.



                                You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.



                                As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.



                                I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb



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                                Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16



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                                It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It



                                is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.



                                These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various



                                Religions....



                                11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!



                                6 Million were Jews!



                                Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust



                                Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm



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                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM



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                                In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time



                                when germany knew it would lose.



                                How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming



                                slovakia be a roadblock?



                                Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty



                                of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?



                                I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and



                                plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was



                                a more heinous form of "theft".



                                Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking



                                in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people



                                trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of



                                times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.



                                It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to



                                foresee future.



                                I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb



                                Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



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                                From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>



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                                Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58



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                                Lou,



                                I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.



                                I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from



                                "invasion" by Hitler.



                                Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.



                                Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only



                                exported from Slovakia.



                                Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were



                                Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.



                                This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they



                                could enter the business world.



                                When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by



                                hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.



                                The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist



                                propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.



                                Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.



                                I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.



                                I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.



                                My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My



                                friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,



                                treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.



                                In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door



                                warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young



                                girls and any valuables.



                                The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was



                                raped, while on her death bed.



                                Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the



                                Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to



                                Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was



                                able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to



                                escapees from Slovakia.



                                Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German



                                government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a



                                pistol.



                                Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.



                                Z Bohom,



                                Vilo



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                                From: Lou <lou@...>



                                To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>



                                Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM



                                Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also



                                In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of



                                "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."



                                Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,



                                photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;



                                Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a



                                tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the



                                rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);



                                978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.



                                <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.



                                SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to



                                your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in



                                ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.



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                                Behalf Of William C. Wormuth



                                Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                                Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You



                                know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched



                                his pants drying on the clothes line".



                                When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best



                                of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.



                                Z Bohom,



                                Vilo



                                --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:



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                                Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring



                                To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com



                                Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM



                                Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom



                                here.



                                --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:



                                >



                                > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g



                                >



                                > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for



                                >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the



                                >events in SK?



                                >



                                > chuck



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                                Which ideology?  What is its bias? Yes, WWII in many ways was a continuation of WWI:  The elimination of monarchies.  Unstable in WWI & even the stable in
                                Message 15 of 23 , Mar 18, 2011
                                  Which ideology?  What is its bias?

                                  Yes, WWII in many ways was a continuation of WWI:  The elimination of monarchies.  Unstable in WWI & even the stable in WWII.  In other ways it was different.   Slovakia, like much of the rest of Europe was tossed upon the waves, with border lines drawn by others.

                                  I don't understand the 'Barrell' reference or the Rom question, exactly.

                                  One thing the Intelligentsia has in common w/ Rom gypsies is that it is a symbiotic relationship.  Each is dependent upon the other, in many respects. I'm sure there are others similarities, dependencies etc.  But we are barely on topic here for this group. 

                                  I had understood Rusyns to be different & distinct from Russians.  Perhaps I have made an erroneous assumption. 

                                  Was Tito's blood drunk by his executioners?  I did not know that.  I don't see how it would help us in the here & now if it had been done.  Mussolini & Cecescu did not fare very well either.

                                  Not sure what to make of the rest.  I eat cows, chickens & pigs on occasion.

                                  What is the main point here?  And what exactly does any of this have to do w/ the Prague Spring?

                                  Chuck

                                  --- On Fri, 3/11/11, smudsville@... <smudsville@...> wrote:

                                  From: smudsville@... <smudsville@...>
                                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also
                                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
                                  Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 1:42 AM







                                   











                                  I am amazed and still puzzled that in six years (33-39)an idealogy that carries such a bias, could have such "success" if that word is accurate.



                                  Many times I have read that wwII was basically a wwI continuation. Do you agree? If so, why.



                                  Don't get why rom gypsies would be singled out if germany gave back romanian lands to hungary in 39. If they were and if the germans did, shame on hungary for not realizing they were the next logical step. I work with a young lady who hangs with a gossip group and can't understand why she was their greatest supporter and now finds herself "in the barrel."



                                  Don't get what the "intelligentsia" have in common with rom gypsies.



                                  It appears that hitler was threatened by those who were more educated and spiritually more free.



                                  Thank you for providing the nazi link. I am an obsessive reader.



                                  I have noticed that no identified germanics ever write in to slovak listservs. Have to wonder how current german cultures feel about their wwII past.



                                  While it appears that russian occupation was equally destructive to slovak/hungarian cultures in other ways, I do see russians writing in, unless a rusyn is not a russian...



                                  Personally, I think hitler should have been destroyed in the same way as tito was or the survivors literally drank his blood as european conquerors did for centuries...



                                  I would like to think that such a thing could never happen again, but am not quite that naïve. Even today the Animal Rights people are fashioning a new socialist world devoid of animals for companionship or service or food. The humane society is NOT what they represent themselves to be.



                                  You can watch todays holocaust of our pets on pet-law@yahoogroups. If you join take it in digest, it is a very prolific and disturbing listserv. What is happening in the us for pets, especially dogs, is little different than what hitler did.



                                  As to AR, pennsylvania is a leader in obtuse ideocracy just like allentown churches. Just a year ago there was a bill before the pa legislature that dogs with docked tails and cropped ears were not even allowed to travel thru pa. Dogs would be confiscated at pa borders. While seeming preposterous and so ridiculous that it could never happen, it can. Ar is highly funded and focused on removing pet privileges whilst their future victims either think it can't happen to them or are so busy squabbling amongst themselves, they make themselves easier to conquer.



                                  I have this saying that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Hitler is no different in his chosen path, just more cruel in how it was done...dlb


                                  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry





                                  -----Original Message-----


                                  From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>


                                  Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:37:16


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                                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also





                                  It is often forgotten that Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust. It


                                  is very seldom mentioned that an estimated 5 million non Jews were slaughtered.


                                  These were by various nationality, very ill, homosexual, Romi, Various


                                  Religions....


                                  11 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST!





                                  6 Million were Jews!





                                  Who Were the Five Million Non-Jewish Holocaust


                                  Victims?http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/non-jewishvictims.htm




















                                  ________________________________


                                  From: "smudsville@..." <smudsville@...>


                                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:25:29 PM


                                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also











                                  In hungary the jews weren't transported north until the end of the war, a time


                                  when germany knew it would lose.








                                  How does this compare to czechkoslovakian deportation and why would forming


                                  slovakia be a roadblock?








                                  Since germany rewarded hungary as an ally by giving back lands removed by treaty


                                  of trianon 1920, how much of czech rep and slovakia land was affected and how?








                                  I have read the "gold train" which is little different from pillage and


                                  plunder...or deportation since to kill so many, so late as losers in the war was


                                  a more heinous form of "theft".








                                  Can you also explain the term "war criminal". As someone on the outside looking


                                  in, many persecuted as war criminals appear more as victims or rather people


                                  trying to survive under the most horrific of circumstances and most trying of


                                  times be they german, polish, czech, slovak or hungarian.








                                  It's not like people have a choice to the communities born to or the ability to


                                  foresee future.








                                  I hope my message comes across as being respectful....dlb








                                  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry





                                  -----Original Message-----


                                  From: "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...>


                                  Sender: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:20:58


                                  To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>


                                  Reply-To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also





                                  Lou,





                                  I am one who agrees wholly with Monsignor Jozef Tiso.





                                  I believe that he formed the Slovak republik in order to save Slovakia from


                                  "invasion" by Hitler.








                                  Much was accomplished in improving the infrastructure an other during the reign.








                                  Monsignor, Tiso was not aware of the fact that Jews would be murdered but only


                                  exported from Slovakia.





                                  Most Americans are not aware of the fact that most business operations were


                                  Jewish, a leftover from the Hungarian rule.





                                  This is why ordinary citizens did not protest, believing that finally they


                                  could enter the business world.








                                  When they did find that the Nazi regime was killing them, the responded by


                                  hiding Jews, at the risk of facing Nazi German firing squad.





                                  The film Obchod na Korze, (Shop on Main Street), was an anti Tiso , communist


                                  propaganda toll but many true facts were in the film.


                                  Hanging Tiso was also a tool of communists, to show people how "Bad " he was.





                                  I consider Monsignor Tiso to be a Martyr for the Slovak people.





                                  I mourn the loss of Czech people during that trying time.





                                  My thoughts concerning the first Cechoslovak Republik are very negative. My


                                  friends and family related to me how very prjudicial against our people,


                                  treating them as second class citizenry, unable to govern there own towns.





                                  In Kúty, when the German Solders were about to retreat, they went door, to door


                                  warning the people that the Soviet forces were coming and to hide their young


                                  girls and any valuables.





                                  The first wave were Mongolian, uneducated soldiers. My cousins grandmother was


                                  raped, while on her death bed.





                                  Our Assistant Pastor here in Johnstown, NY, (and later administrating to the


                                  Sisters if Sts. Cyril and Methodius), Father Augustin Zan, was secretary to


                                  Monsignor Tiso. When communists took over, the people hid him until he was


                                  able, (with the peoples help), to escape to Germany where he administered to


                                  escapees from Slovakia.





                                  Communists tried to have him arrested as a "war criminal" and sent to the German





                                  government a doctored Photograph of Fr. Zan. standing amid bodies, holding a


                                  pistol.





                                  Father was First a Priest and Second, a True Slovak God Rest His Soul.





                                  Z Bohom,





                                  Vilo











                                  ________________________________


                                  From: Lou <lou@...>


                                  To: "Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com" <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>


                                  Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 6:02:18 PM


                                  Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring: see also








                                  In case you're not aware: I have the pleasure and honor to be the publisher of


                                  "The PRAGUE SPRING and the WARSAW PACT: INVASION of CZECHOSLOVAKIA, 1968."


                                  Editesd by Prof. M. Mark Stolarik; 16 scholorly papers, based on new documents,


                                  photographs. {The world allowed Hitler to invade Czechoslovakia in 1938;


                                  Forty years later, the world allowed Russia to invade Czechoslovakia. It's a


                                  tragedy that our globe is still allowed to be controlled by warlords, while the


                                  rest of us citicens is passive. ISBN 978-0-86516-751-3 (Paper);


                                  978-0-86516-757-5 (Hardback); Amazon; Bolchazy-Carducci Publisherts, Inc.


                                  <www.bolchazy.com> Srdecne a dovidenia, Ladislaus J. (Laci) Bolchazy, Pres.


                                  SLOVAK-AMERICAN IMTERNATIONAL CULTURAL FOUNDATION, Inc Present this book to


                                  your institutional library or to your political representative. SLOVAK BOOKS in





                                  ENGLISH: OUR BEST AMBASSADORS to the WORLD.





                                  -----Original Message-----


                                  From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com] On


                                  Behalf Of William C. Wormuth


                                  Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:32 AM


                                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring





                                  Slovaks greatly respected Alexander Dubcek. I once met a woman who said: " You





                                  know, Vilo, I live in the same apartment house as Dubcek", "Once I even touched


                                  his pants drying on the clothes line".


                                  When you live under the circumstances our people had, you simply make the best


                                  of everything. Complaining doesn't change anything.





                                  Z Bohom,





                                  Vilo





                                  --- On Wed, 2/2/11, genmom4 <geismom@...> wrote:





                                  From: genmom4 <geismom@...>


                                  Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: Prague Spring


                                  To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com


                                  Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:20 AM











                                  Thanks for posting this, Chuck. It certainly makes me appreciate my freedom


                                  here.





                                  --- In Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com, LongJohn Wayne <daxthewarrior@...> wrote:





                                  >





                                  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbxw3To02g





                                  >





                                  > Not sure if I got this here or from a Czech friend. Were any of you there for





                                  >this? Most of the pictures are of Prague. Does anyone have any links of the


                                  >events in SK?





                                  >





                                  > chuck





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