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  • Martin Votruba
    ... Place names with the root zavad- (zavod- can be a version of the same root) occur in several Slavic countries. As many as 5 localities in Slovakia are
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 5, 2006
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      > what language "zavodka" is

      Place names with the root zavad- (zavod- can be a version of the same
      root) occur in several Slavic countries. As many as 5 localities in
      Slovakia are called _Zavadka_, there are several in Poland, at least
      one in Subcarpathian/Transcarpathian Rus in Ukraine.

      Family names with the root zavad-/zavod- (some of them probably
      derived from the place names) occur in Slovakia and elsewhere, so it's
      difficult to pinpoint it to just one language. The Slovak telephone
      directory shows neither Zavadka nor Zavodka as family names but the
      directory comes up with several hundred people whose names contain the
      root zavod- or zavad-. For instance (feminine--masculine versions)
      Zavodska--Zavodsky, Zavadska--Zavadsky are quite common.


      Martin

      votruba "at" pitt "dot" edu
    • Armata, Joseph R. (JArmata)
      It looks like it could come from the roots za (beyond, behind) and voda (water), so it would carry the meaning of someone who came from across a river, or who
      Message 2 of 6 , Sep 6, 2006
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        It looks like it could come from the roots za (beyond, behind) and
        voda (water), so it would carry the meaning of someone who came from
        across a river, or who lived on the other side of a brook or pond,
        something like that. Of course, surname origins are lost in the mists
        of time, so in most cases there's no way of knowing for sure how a
        surname developed for a specific family.

        Joe


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        Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] geneology


        Hi,
        I needed to add on to this query...I've noticed that the word
        "zavodka" appears in russian, czech, belorussian, austrian and
        hungarian websites. Does anyone know what language "zavodka" is, and
        what it means? I've not been able to translate it. Thanks,
        Kelly
      • Martin Votruba
        ... It might appear so (just as, e.g., the place names that include Plavecky might appear to be from swimming , or Zahradnik might appear to mean from behind
        Message 3 of 6 , Sep 6, 2006
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          > voda (water)

          It might appear so (just as, e.g., the place names that include
          Plavecky might appear to be from "swimming", or Zahradnik might appear
          to mean "from behind the castle"), but the root in these names is
          "lead" (vodit, viest, zavadzat). Zavod- (-nik, -sky, -c~i, etc.) were
          names of occupations, a "guide/leader" who led groups of people to/at
          work (typically in the open: forests, fields), in armed conflicts, or
          someone who guided beasts of burden, horses in the army...


          Martin

          votruba "at" pitt "dot" edu
        • Kelly L. Zavotka
          Thanks for the insight, Martin and Joe. This is very interesting. Kelly ________________________________ From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
          Message 4 of 6 , Sep 6, 2006
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            Thanks for the insight, Martin and Joe. This is very interesting.
            Kelly

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            From: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com]
            On Behalf Of Martin Votruba
            Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:41 AM
            To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Slovak-World] Re: geneology

            > voda (water)

            It might appear so (just as, e.g., the place names that include
            Plavecky might appear to be from "swimming", or Zahradnik might appear
            to mean "from behind the castle"), but the root in these names is
            "lead" (vodit, viest, zavadzat). Zavod- (-nik, -sky, -c~i, etc.) were
            names of occupations, a "guide/leader" who led groups of people to/at
            work (typically in the open: forests, fields), in armed conflicts, or
            someone who guided beasts of burden, horses in the army...

            Martin

            votruba "at" pitt "dot" edu



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