Re: I am a fledgling new member...
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>...I am very engaged by all the e-mails and want to say that it isall a bit overwhelming and so fascinating to read about all things
Slovak.I have been quite ignorant until now and must catch up. I have
requested a family tree from a cousin and know that John Sabanosh, my
grandfather, originated in Hanusovce.<
Welcome to S-W. There are a couple of Hanusovce in Slovakia but the
name is found in the Eastern Slovakia town of Hanusovce nad Toplou (
http://www.hanusovce.sk/ ). There are four Sabanos^(pronounced
Sabanosh)listed in the online SK phone directory (
http://www.zoznamst.sk/eng/index.html ) for the town. Most of the
other Sabanos^ listed in the directory are also from the area around
Hanusovce nad Toplou. There is a Jan Sabanos, age 26, farmer in the
EIDB. He is shown arriving in January 1895. Do you know what
religion they were?
>He is deceased as is my grandmother, Mary Ruchinsky. I do not knowwhere in Slovakia she originated from.<
I found three Ruc^insky (pronounced Ruchinsky) in the SK online
directory. Two are located in Eastern Slovakia.
>Does anyone know the term "sprosti ivan" (sp.?)? My mother used touse that term.<
Others on this list could handle this better but the term "sprost-" I
believe would have negative connotations. If I'm in the ball park it
could mean rude or something similar. If it was "prost-" it could
mean "just", "straightforward" or "simple" i.e. "honest John"(?).
>She told me so many stories but I found storks used to sit on theroof<
Storks do migrate each year to Slovakia, among other countries.
>and the wolves would also hide on the roof in the winter when thesnow was high to pounce on an unsuspecting human<
This probably came from old legends and folklore.
>and all the animals would have to be taken in the house for fear ofthe wolves.<
I believe most peasant homes were built with attached stables and it
was normal to have the animals in the stables.
>Also, supposedly my grandfather John Sabanosh belonged to a familywith many brothers and they had a ranch and raised cattle and tanned
the leather hides. Then they exported them and that is how they
traveled to America, on business as exporters of fine leather goods. <
Ranches, as we know them in America, did not exist in Slovakia.
Typically, most people lived on small subsistence farms. Having many
brothers could be a problem. I'm not certain how the inheritance
customs worked in Slovakia but I believe the property went to the
eldest son. As a result, the others became farm workers or, in the
nineteenth and twentieth century, emigrated to America. They may
well have been tanners but exporting hides to America would be
like "shipping coal to Newcastle". If they were expert leather
workers there might be some credence to the story.
>They mentioned something about the mountains also.<There are a few small mountains in the area but nothing like the
- View SourceThank you so much for all your information. What you have told me really
clarifies alot. I believe that my grandmother was Catholic and changed to
Lutheran for my grandfather which was very upsetting to her family. But one must
understand that she came to America alone at 16 through Ellis Island and
when she settled in Garfield, New Jersey and met my grandfather he was a member
of the church there and she married him there. Whether he was Catholic at
first I do not know but the Trinity Lutheran Church on Palisades Avenue,
Garfield, New Jersey was having Slovak services and since the churches are very
similar in belief he could have just gone to that church or not be able to have
the service in Slovak anywhere else. Or he originally was Lutheran in
Czechoslovakia, I do not know. I would have to talk more to my Aunt Mary who is
92. Do you know if the Sabanos family in Hanusovce are Lutheran or Catholic?
Thank you so much again. Marianne
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>Do you know if the Sabanos family in Hanusovce are Lutheran or
> Thank you so much again. MarianneI asked because northeast Slovakia has a high percentage of Greek
Catholics (services are similar to Russian Orthodox). Most GC's are
of a minority ethnic group called Rusyns. It appears that Hanusovce
nad Toplou has Luthern as well as Roman and Greek Catholic parishes.
I have no idea if the current Sabanos^ residents are Luthern or
Catholic. You can get their full address and phone number from the
online directory. If you get the microfilms of the church registers
for Hanusovce nad Toplou you could find out about your grandfather's
heritage. They contain baptismal, marriage and death records.
The Lutherns are known as Evangelicals in Slovakia. The microfilms
of the church registers were made by the LDS and can be obtained at
your local LDS Family History Center.