17189Re: reply to Martin Votruba
- Nov 26, 2006Danusha,
I haven't had a chance to read the article yet, as I am busy
preparing to fly to Europe in three weeks so I can spend Christmas
in Slovakia with family. Part of that trip will be to continue
informal research and meet people to gather more history of the
area. I have not found the history of Sulin and the Stara Lubovna
area that I would like to read, so I plan on writing it myself. I
had a chance to read a few paragraphs and glance at other parts, but
I copied and saved it in Word so I can read it offline, perhaps as I
travel. I also included the URL where you posted it so I can easily
return in the future.
With Martin's post, I appended that to the end of your article.
Since his commentary was substantially shorter, I read it through
completely and found his comments to agree with my readings in
Slovak history over the last 36 years. I haven't examined either
critically to specify precise points of agreement or disagreement
with what either of you have said. I have found the old histories
often quite biased in presentation, and the tone in the last 15
years has changed quite a bit. Even the Hungarian histories seem to
have come up to western `objective' standards in this time, and I
consider the Hungarians absolutely charming scoundrels. I have
always read our neighbor's history as well as ours, since it would
reveal aspects of our history that they wish to skip over.
Education is one of the points most often described from a
nationalistic (or ethnic) perspective. Read any Carpathian-German
history and the Hungarians and Slovaks hardly existed or
precipitated any history; commentary about schooling is limited to
German language schooling. Nothing is mentioned about schooling in
other languages unless it is to point out oppression.
I found Martin's commentary correct in tone and scope, and do not
feel it was lacking for not encompassing a review of the full
article. Given the length of the article, I expect that is
impossible to expect on this forum. Even this commentary is
dragging too long! I picture my style as similar to yours with
plenty of sources referenced at the end of the body. My approach
will be to cover the life of the community and not my family
exclusively. That is why its scope expanded from the village to the
town area, because of all of the surrounding activities that changed
life in the village. I will be trying to present the flow of daily
life to some degree, the relationships of the different peoples and
classes, and how these changed over the centuries. I appreciate
Martin's comments being addressed to the forum, as we need to share
perspectives in order to reach what we may consider reasonable in
our own eyes, and you did introduce it publicly.
On this forum I have sometimes taken exception to what people said
because it may fly in the face of human nature. This judgment has
to be tempered with consideration of the culture and atmosphere of
the times. The relationship between Hungarians and Slovaks also
varied with time and circumstance. The value of cleanliness and
literacy changed with time as well, at times being looked down upon
rather than respected as they are today. To imagine how fluid these
relationships were over hundreds of years we only need look at the
many changes in US alliances and policies in the last 100 years. If
we took a snapshot of time we could be quite in error, depending
upon choice of Wilson's presidency, FDR's, or Reagan's.
All of that is the long way of stating that I found Martin's
comments proper and worth considering.
I hope we all get to read additional comments as people have a
chance to read what you have posted - thanks for sharing it!
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