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  • kevf
    Long time no hear, eh? You ve probably been wondering what s been happening to the Sitcom Trials, lo these long weeks in Edinburgh. Well the truth is we ve
    Message 1 of 10 , Aug 20, 2002
      Long time no hear, eh? You've probably been wondering what's been
      happening to the Sitcom Trials, lo these long weeks in Edinburgh.

      Well the truth is we've soldiered on, in the face of some very low
      audiences, and are exhausting ourselves through two or more shows a
      night. And strangely we all seem to be loving it.

      For those keeping track, and I doubt many can be, the day to day content
      of the Sitcom Trials has been changing, with guest appearances slotted
      in to brighten the days, and varying scripts.

      The running orders and winners for the last week have looked like so:

      Monday 12th:
      The Client (by Harris, Wainwright & Blakewill) (winner), Jimmy James (by
      James Holmes)(2nd place), Go Wild In The Country (by Jane Simon)(3rd)

      Tuesday 13th:
      Jimmy James (winner), Death By Sketches (guest team, 2nd place), The
      Client (3rd)

      Weds 14th:
      Jimmy James (winner), The Client (2nd), Cold Cuts (guest team, 3rd)

      Thurs 15th:
      Kiss Me Son Of God (by Jonathan Kirby, performed by Danny Robins, Dan
      Tetsell & Lucy Porter, winner), Jimmy James 2nd, The Client 3rd

      Fri 16th:
      Kev F solo sitcom pitch (winner), Jimmy James (2nd), The Client (3rd)

      Sat 17th:
      The Client (winner), Jimmy James (2nd), The Style Council (written &
      performed by Hough & Solon, 3rd)

      Sun 18th:
      Jimmy James (winner), The Style Council (2nd), Adam Richards (solo
      sitcom pitch, 3rd), Kev F solo sitcom pitch (joint 3rd)

      Mon 19th:
      Adam Richard solo pitch (winner), Jimmy James & The Style Council (joint
      second)


      As you can see, there have been a lot of changes to the line up, with
      actors and comedians coming and going, and scripts arriving and
      departing. The early days, with guest stars Jovanka Steele, Mandy Muden
      & Danny Buckler, seem an eternity ago, as do scripts like I See Dead
      People and Go Wild In The Country, which did such a great deal to earn
      us such quoteable reviews.

      Our show on Saturday 17th was by far the best, with the finest line up
      of scripts and actors and a near sellout show (that's 62 paying
      customers plus a few guests). Two days later we played to six people.

      Edinburgh is a funny old place.

      Kev F Sutherland
      THE SITCOM TRIALS + KEV F'S RUDE HEALTH
      http://sitcomtrials.co.uk
    • matt@lobotomy.co.uk
      Cheers for keeping us up to date, Kev. Now, I don t want to sound rude, I m genuinely trying to be objective here... I ve only performed at Edinburgh twice but
      Message 2 of 10 , Aug 20, 2002
        Cheers for keeping us up to date, Kev.

        Now, I don't want to sound rude, I'm genuinely trying to be objective here...

        I've only performed at Edinburgh twice but it sounds to me like the Sitcom Trials is going a bit bad. Most importantly, not as well as last year. It seemed to me that the original idea - or at least what was at work when I joined and got involved - has been somwehat wholesalely abandoned in this Festival attempt. Even mid-run there have been chops and changes that smack all too much like desperation. And Festival-goers can smell that... it usually smells of students.

        Perhaps this would be a good opportunity for the list to put forward their ideas of why it may have gone off the rails slightly. There are plenty of new people on the list, I imagine, to add their ideas.

        I think we'd all like to know what you think you've learned as well Kev, and also anybody on this list that may have seen the show.

        The Sitcom Trials is a good idea, and most of us who've been involved know that it can work really well. But, I get the impression that the Edinburgh attempt hasn't been the cream of the crop showcase that it should be.

        I don't want the discussion to get bogged down in the belittling of material or swearwords - unless we can invent some really good new ones - but, clearly for the numerous people on the list something needs to be done to raise the game. Kev can't do it all on his own you know.

        Cheers,
        Matt

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      • Rachel Welch
        I could be wrong on this (and if I am I back down on this point entirely) - but I got the impression the actors and co devised the sitcoms themselves. After
        Message 3 of 10 , Aug 21, 2002
          I could be wrong on this (and if I am I back down on
          this point entirely) - but I got the impression the
          actors and co devised the sitcoms themselves. After
          all the submissions of scripts for the festival, why
          were none of them used? Some of them had a lot of
          great potential.
          It seemed to me like a rather pointless exercise (not
          to mention a waste of time) and could possibly be an
          indication of why this year's trials are not as
          successful as usual - maybe the scripts just aren't up
          to the usual standard.

          Anyway, best of luck for the last few days.


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          Cheers for keeping us up to date, Kev.<BR>
          <BR>
          Now, I don't want to sound rude, I'm genuinely trying
          to be objective here...<BR>
          <BR>
          I've only performed at Edinburgh twice but it sounds
          to me like the Sitcom Trials is going a bit bad. Most
          importantly, not as well as last year. It seemed to me
          that the original idea - or at least what was at work
          when I joined and got involved - has been somwehat
          wholesalely abandoned in this Festival attempt. Even
          mid-run there have been chops and changes that smack
          all too much like desperation. And Festival-goers can
          smell that... it usually smells of students.<BR>
          <BR>
          Perhaps this would be a good opportunity for the list
          to put forward their ideas of why it may have gone off
          the rails slightly. There are plenty of new people on
          the list, I imagine, to add their ideas. <BR>
          <BR>
          I think we'd all like to know what you think you've
          learned as well Kev, and also anybody on this list
          that may have seen the show.<BR>
          <BR>
          The Sitcom Trials is a good idea, and most of us
          who've been involved know that it can work really
          well. But, I get the impression that the Edinburgh
          attempt hasn't been the cream of the crop showcase
          that it should be.<BR>
          <BR>
          I don't want the discussion to get bogged down in the
          belittling of material or swearwords - unless we can
          invent some really good new ones - but, clearly for
          the numerous people on the list something needs to be
          done to raise the game. Kev can't do it all on his own
          you know.<BR>
          <BR>
          Cheers,<BR>
          Matt<BR>
          <BR>
          P.S. How's Rude Health going?<BR>
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        • kevf
          While many of you are wondering why you re on this egroup (a reminder for newcomers, it s for potential writers and performers in The Sitcom Trials to keep in
          Message 4 of 10 , Aug 29, 2002
            While many of you are wondering why you're on this egroup (a reminder
            for newcomers, it's for potential writers and performers in The Sitcom
            Trials to keep in touch, and for sitcom fans to talk sitcom), another
            gobbet of trivia ffrom the Edinburgh show.

            Every day, to kick start the show, I performed the warm up game The Best
            Sitcom Ever. Using my flipchart as a big Pictionary board, I led the
            audience in choosing the best sitcom ever by means of shouting out while
            I endeavoured to draw each sitcom suggested.

            As a result we have something of a poll result, which more
            publicity-hungry producers would be getting published by now, of the
            audience's verdict as to what is the BEST SITCOM OF ALL TIME EVER (based
            on somewhere around 500 audience members' opinions)

            FAWLTY TOWERS (winner 11 times, placed times)
            BLACKADDER (win 5 place 4)
            ONLY FOOLS & HORSES (win 3 place 10)
            FRIENDS (placed 11 times)
            FATHER TED (pl 11)
            RED DWARF (w 2 pl 4)
            SIMPSONS (w 2 pl 3)
            THE ROYLE FAMILY (w 1 pl 3)
            SEINFELD (pl 10)
            FRASIER (pl 7)
            STEPTOE & SON (pl 6)
            DAD'S ARMY (pl 6)
            WILL & GRACE (pl 6)
            THE GOOD LIFE (pl 6)
            ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE (pl 5)
            SPACED (pl 4)
            AB FAB (pl 4)
            CHEERS (pl 4)
            YOUNG ONES (pl 4)
            MASH (pl 3)
            RISING DAMP (pl 3)
            TAXI (pl 3)
            THE OFFICE (pl 3)
            COSBY SHOW (pl 3)
            HAPPY DAYS (pl 3)
            BLESS THIS HOUSE (pl 2)
            PORRIDGE (pl 2)
            VICAR OF DIBLEY (pl 2)
            SOAP (pl 2)
            THE LIKELY LADS (pl 2)
            BLACK BOOKS (pl 2)
            MEN BEHAVING BADLY (pl 2)
            SOME MOTHERS DO AVE EM (pl 2)
            LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE (pl 2)
            BUTTERFLIES (pl 2)
            NEVER THE TWAIN (pl 1)
            TWO PINTS OF LAGER (pl 1)
            TO THE MANOR BORN (pl 1)
            REGGIE PERRIN (pl 1)
            COUPLING (pl 1)
            SORRY (pl 1)
            BILKO (pl 1)
            ALL IN THE FAMILY (pl 1)
            DROP THE DEAD DONKEY (pl 1)
            ONLY WHEN I LAUGH (pl 1)
            LOVE THEY NEIGHBOUR (pl 1)
            CHEF (pl 1)
            TERRY & JUNE (pl 1)
            BRIGHTON BELLES (pl 1)
            DUTY FREE (pl 1)
            RAB C NESBITT (pl 1)
            ALLY McBEAL (pl 1)
            ARE YOU BEING SERVED (pl 1)
            ON THE BUSES (pl 1)
            BOTTOM (pl 1)
            GEORGE & MILDRED (pl 1)

            And because I was ad-libbing the sketches on the day, there are some
            drawings for which I can't work out what sitcom they're supposed to be.
            Any idea?

            A drawing of a lift door?
            Some big flying birds?
            A bone and a toe?
            Judi Dench and a coffin?
            A suit and a spade?
            Two stick figures & a spare leg?
            A pair of trousers, y fronts and a cat?
            A shoe and dripping blood?
            Hitler in a wheelchair?
            A big blank collar?


            Kev F
          • Nick Barlow
            ... Are you being served? The lift was featured in the titles and was central on the stage ... Maybe they re Butterflies, and not birds ... A Fine Romance?
            Message 5 of 10 , Aug 29, 2002
              Kev wrote:


              > And because I was ad-libbing the sketches on the day, there are some
              > drawings for which I can't work out what sitcom they're supposed to be.
              > Any idea?
              >
              > A drawing of a lift door?

              Are you being served? The lift was featured in the titles and was central on
              the stage

              > Some big flying birds?

              Maybe they're Butterflies, and not birds

              > A bone and a toe?
              > Judi Dench and a coffin?

              A Fine Romance? Michael Williams (her co-star in that) is dead.

              > A suit and a spade?
              > Two stick figures & a spare leg?
              > A pair of trousers, y fronts and a cat?

              Filthy, Rich and Catflap?

              > A shoe and dripping blood?
              > Hitler in a wheelchair?
              > A big blank collar?

              Could be a clerical collar indicating Father Ted.

              Nick
            • iain mclean
              Dear all, I ve just had a relpy from Robin French @ Alomo ref. a Sit Com I had developed round three guys and their messes. The report has just come back and
              Message 6 of 10 , Sep 16, 2002
                Dear all,

                I've just had a relpy from Robin French @ Alomo ref. a Sit Com I had
                developed round three guys and their messes. The report has just come back
                and looks good, considering I got the Idea on Monday and the whole thing and
                a sysnopsis was in the post by Wednesday evening! He said, 'good idead and
                shows a lot of potential' but also mentioned a slight lack of narritive
                drive, making it a bit on the slow side to read.

                Anyone round Manchester/Blackburn corridor want to maybe look to become a
                writing team? just an idea as all the past greats were writen by teams (eg.
                Cleese/Booth)?

                Toodle pip.

                Iain.

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              • hoverdillo
                ... become a ... teams (eg. ... Would we have to marry you?
                Message 7 of 10 , Sep 17, 2002
                  > Anyone round Manchester/Blackburn corridor want to maybe look to
                  become a
                  > writing team? just an idea as all the past greats were writen by
                  teams (eg.
                  > Cleese/Booth)?
                  >
                  > Iain.


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                • iain mclean
                  No. It d be friutless cos didn t they get divorced anyway?! You interested? From: hoverdillo Reply-To: SitsVac@yahoogroups.com To:
                  Message 8 of 10 , Sep 17, 2002
                    No. It'd be friutless 'cos didn't they get divorced anyway?! You interested?


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                    > Anyone round Manchester/Blackburn corridor want to maybe look to
                    become a
                    > writing team? just an idea as all the past greats were writen by
                    teams (eg.
                    > Cleese/Booth)?
                    >
                    > Iain.


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