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Re: [Sejarah Melayu] Hang Li Poh

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  • pamungsari
    Hang Li Po was not a princess. From what I know the princess did not want to leave China and marry the Malay Sultan. The princess has made a kind of trick,
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 6, 2003
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      Hang Li Po was not a princess. From what I know the princess did not
      want to leave China and marry the Malay Sultan. The princess has made
      a kind of trick, even the Emperor did not know until the convoy has
      alreday left. Hang Li Po herself has been cheated.
      Maybe we could track the record in China. I believe there is no
      Princess Hang Li Po at that time.

      -- In Sejarah-Melayu@yahoogroups.com, "Melanie De Cruz"
      <mel_decruz@h...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks!
      >
      > >
      > >No, it was definitely not Yongle. Mansur Shah reigned from 1459 to
      1477.
      > >The Ming chronicles record that 'Su-tan Wang-Su-Sha' as sent envoys
      > >bringing tribute and the Emperor invested him as king in 1459, so
      it was
      > >Emperor T'ien-shun/Tianshun (1457-1464). He is only referred to as
      'Raja
      > >Cina' in the Sejarah Melayu.
      > >
      > >I'm not quite sure where you got the 1469 figure from though - that
      > >would mean that it was Emperor Ch'eng-hua / Chenghua (1465-1487)
      rather
      > >than Tianshun. Any Ming dynasty/Baba history specialists willing to
      > >help/clarify?
      > >
      > I actually picked up 1469 from several of the touristy websites,
      including a
      > website about Melaka. But if you ask me for the specific page,
      don't have:(
      > So the year he became sultan was the year he took Hang Li Poh as
      his wife?
      >
      > >
      > > > Was it
      > > > compulsory back then for a non-muslim to convert if he or she
      married
      > > > a muslim?
      > >
      > >In the case of Sultan Mansur Shah, according to the Sejarah
      Melayu, the
      > >Sultan gave orders that she embrace Islam and she did. It did
      happen
      > >more often than not but I don't think they were as strict about
      > >compulsion then as we appear to be today - certainly not in the
      case
      > >with royalty, as Sultan Muhammad Shah earlier had both a Muslim
      Indian
      > >wife and a wife who was a Hindu princess from Sumatra.
      >
      > So I suppose this is why not all the babas and nyonyas are Muslims.
      >
      > Would anyone have any information of what the lifestyle was like at
      that
      > period in time? For the royalty (Hang Li Poh) and the commoners,
      > inparticular the community of the 500 Chinese that came with Hang
      Li Poh?
      > for example, were there accounts of Hang Li Poh's life within the
      royal
      > family? Or accounts of how the 500 adapted to the local lifestyle?
      >
      > Thanks!!
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