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40526Re: Perspectives on FIRST?

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  • get_imaginary
    Sep 2, 2009
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      Thanks for the specific suggestion, Doug. It makes sense!

      - Robin


      --- In SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com, Doug Leppard <Doug.Leppard@...> wrote:
      >
      > I used to have a robotics hobby, then I got into FIRST seven years ago
      > and it destroyed my robotic hobby, no personal time for that. As it was
      > said already it becomes crack for some, it is addictive.
      >
      >
      >
      > FIRST is more than robots, kids learn teamwork, how to run a business,
      > fund raising, web design, working through team issues, real world
      > problem solving, PR and much more.
      >
      >
      >
      > There is a real family atmosphere as you go to competitions and there is
      > more yelling and screaming than any high school game I have gone to.
      >
      >
      >
      > My suggestion if you are just getting started is start with FTC, much
      > more manageable and many issues are the same just smaller.
      >
      >
      >
      > If you do an FRC get another team to adopt you, they will want to do
      > that, FIRST encourages them to do so. Next for us, the secret is the
      > college mentors that have been in FIRST since they were in highs school.
      > They bring in a lot of experience being involved in FIRST in the past, I
      > am the engineering lead for our team but I turn to our college mentors
      > often on the best way to go.
      >
      >
      >
      > So go for it, you will have a run for your life.
      >
      > Doug Leppard
      > Global ConneXion Director
      > Global Technology Office
      > Campus Crusade for Christ International
      > Doug.Leppard@...
      >
      > ________________________________
      >
      > From: SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of get_imaginary
      > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:06 PM
      > To: SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [SeattleRobotics] Re: Perspectives on FIRST?
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Thanks so much for filling in that part of the picture, Phil! Really
      > helpful insights and information!
      >
      > - Robin
      >
      > --- In SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:SeattleRobotics%40yahoogroups.com> , "ourcoolhouse"
      > <onlinestoreemail@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi
      > >
      > > My experiences with FIRST are at all three levels... FLL (FIRST LEGO
      > League), FTC and FRC.
      > >
      > > All are great programs. Kevin's explanation was spot on.
      > >
      > > One difference Kevin didn't mention between FTC and FRC is the time
      > you have to build the robot.
      > >
      > > With FRC (Big robots) you have about 6 weeks from game release to
      > robot ship, and you don't get to see your robot between competitions.
      > >
      > > With FTC (Smaller robots) you have between 3 and 5 months to build
      > your robot (depending on when you compete) and you are alowed to modify
      > your robot between competitions.
      > >
      > > Consequently there is more "teaching time" with FTC, and it's not
      > quite as intense. This is how the kids are able to do more of the work.
      > FTC also has the concept of an "Engineering notebook" which is part of
      > the judging process at competition.
      > >
      > > Yes, FRC is much more demanding, but in many ways it reflects the
      > "real world" even more closely. Not enough time, space or processing
      > power to do everything you need to.
      > >
      > > All fun stuff.
      > > Phil.
      > >
      > > --- In SeattleRobotics@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:SeattleRobotics%40yahoogroups.com> , "Kevin Ross" <kevinro@>
      > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hello Robin.
      > > >
      > > > There are a couple of ways to participate in FIRST. There are two
      > different programs for high schools.
      > >
      >
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