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  • w1ho
    We did some research and made an inquiry of N1ND, Regulatory Information Manager at ARRL. We are posting a list of allowable third party entities, sorted both
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 11, 2009
      We did some research and made an inquiry of N1ND, Regulatory Information Manager at ARRL.
      We are posting a list of allowable third party entities, sorted both by prefix and by entity name, at each operating position.  And we have an information handout for Scouts and other visitors making them aware of the third  party regulations.
      There was some question about UK stations, so on the assumption others might have the same question, below is Dan's response to my question concerning UK third party communications.  In a nutshell, third party with all UK entities is OK.
      73, and hope to work some of you on the air from K2BSA/4 at the Gemstone District Camporee in Iredell County, NC.
      Howard  W1HO
      While the FCC pages don't reflect it, the rules regarding third-party with the UK did change a few years ago. 
      * FCC to update third-party traffic list to include all UK stations: The FCC
      is expected to soon update its Web site listing of countries with which US
      Amateur Radio Service licensees may exchange third-party traffic (ie,
      messages on behalf of a party other than the control operator). The updated
      list will include all amateur stations in the United Kingdom (the UK, the
      Channel Islands, including Guernsey and Jersey, Great Britain, the Isle of
      Man and Northern Ireland). The change is already effective. Section 97.115
      of the FCC's Amateur Radio Service rules regulates communications from a
      station's control operator (first party) to another amateur station's
      control operator (second party) on behalf of another person (third party).
      No FCC-regulated amateur station may transmit messages for a third party to
      any amateur station located within the jurisdiction of any foreign
      government not on the FCC list or whose administration has not made specific
      arrangements with the US to allow amateur stations to transmit international
      communications on behalf of third parties. The prohibition regarding
      third-party traffic does not apply to messages for any third party who is
      eligible to be the control operator of the station. The FCC list of
      countries that have third-party agreements with the US is on the FCC Web
      site <http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/amateur/about/intoperating.html>.
      We reported this April 2005.  But I do see that the FCC hasn't updated their website - but it is permissible.  I will follow up with the FCC.

      ----- Original Message -----
      > 1a. Re: JAMBOREE ON THE AIR (JOTA), 10/17/2009, 8:00 am
      >    Posted by: "Mark Phillips" g7ltt@... kc2eni
      >    Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:25 am ((PDT))
      > It might be worth pointing out that such "3rd party" messages are not
      > legal everywhere. Some jurisdictions only allow "3rd party" messages to
      > CEPT states and only then if they are stations of a particular type
      > (often Scouts are included).
      > On 10/10/2009 08:01 AM, Bob Bruninga wrote:
      >> APRS can be used for JOTA for making contacts all over the world.  APRS now has a global JOTA CQ method so that your CQ JOTA message goes not just on local RF (144.39 in North America) but also to ALL other JOTA stations on the planet.
      >> To work JOTA on APRS all you have to do is send an APRS message to CQSRVR and use the words CQ JOTA CQ JOTA at the beginning of the message.  This will put you on the CQSRVR server for 24 hours and forward your message to everyone else that has done the same thing.
      >>> From then on, you too will get every such loggon message from everyone else.
      >> When you see one of these from another JOTA station, then you have his callsign and then you can messsage DIRECT to that station, since APRS allows callsign-to-callsign messaging anywhere on the planet.
      >> See www.aprs.org/cqsrvr.html
      >> Bob,WB4APR
      >> ------------------------------------
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