Re: Scouts safe
Sorry to hear about your experience. It is sad but true, as I have
experienced and faced many of the same attitudes toward radio and
technology. I have been a little more fortunate in a couple of
ways. First, the opportunity to work with a scoutmaster who flew
helicopter combat missions in Iraq and understands and appreciates
the importance of radio communications. Also, I have had the support
and assistance of fellow Amateurs at the district level in organizing
an event this year.
Our event will be held at Camp Lakota and we have had the good
fortune to be allowed to be part of a Webelos Unplugged event to held
there that weekend. We will be part of the regular program rotation
serving ~200 scouts and their parents. We have a lot of neat
activities planned. Information can be found at:
As it appears you are in my neck of the woods, I would like to invite
you and any one you would like to bring out to our JOTA event. We
need all the help we can get and would welcome your assistance. We
especially need help Sunday, as there will be three morning rotations
and then we need to tear down. Please feel free to contact me
--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Serocki" <joeserocki@...>
> I need some assistance here.
> Our Ham Radio Club offer Radio, Electronics and Electricity Merit
> classes to over 2000 Scouts, we get 20 takers. I was wondering why.Then I
> realized that at least out here in Illinois technology and Scoutingdo not
> mix. Scoutmasters frown on any sort of technology and won't allowtheir kids
> to bring anything technological on events. The technical meritbadges are
> not Eagle required and there are plenty of easier merit badges thanRadio,
> Electronics and Electricity.also was
> I approached our Council and I was told that was the way it is. I
> told not to bother with JOTA because no one would come out.larger
> So, what gives? Is this only in my area or is this some sort of
> phenomena? Can anyone offer any feedback?ip.org)
> 73, Joe, N9IFG
> Assistant Regional Coordinator, AYSO Region 428 (http://ayso428.com)
> Prez, WeLCARS ( <http://welcars.no-ip.org> http://welcars.org)
> Advisor, Venture Crew 743 ( <http://743.no-ip.org> http://743.no-
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> From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
> Behalf Of Bill MorineJamborees
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:52 PM
> To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ScoutRadio] Scouts safe
> Another reason to promote amateur radio in Scouting. Look at the
> story below and see that the group did not have cell service. What
> might have been the outcome if one of them had had a ham radio?
> Bill Morine
> K2BSA Radio Merit Badge Instructor - 2001 and 2005 National
> WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - Eight Boy Scouts who got lost while camping in
> the North Carolina mountains turned up Monday as searchers scoured
> the heavily wooded area, officials said.
> "They're fine," said Donna Johnston of the Boy Scouts' Occoneechee
> Council in Raleigh. "They're out of the woods."
> Johnston said the boys and their three leaders had gotten off a
> and decided to set up camp for another night. They waited untilhunker
> daylight rather than trying to walk out in the dark.
> Rodney Jones, an assistant Scout master whose son was in the group,
> said they followed their training.
> "I knew they would do as they were supposed to do and that is
> down," Jones said. "Everybody's in good shape, a little tired. Theywere,
> said if they had cell service, they would have called us. They
> as the Scout motto says, they were prepared."in
> Kathryn Logan, whose brother was among the lost Scouts, said he was
> finally able to get cell phone service Monday morning and told her
> the troop had gotten off the trail.
> The group started the trip Friday and was due home Sunday evening.
> The search was started after they failed to return as a precaution
> case any of the boys, all age 12 or older, might be injured, saidsquare-
> Charity Sharp, spokeswoman for the Cruso Fire Department.
> Firefighters and search and rescue crew members checked a five-
> mile area near Black Balsam Knob in southern Haywood County
> overnight, and a fresh search team of 15 to 30 people with tracking
> dogs went out after dawn on Monday, Sharp said.
> (Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
- Good info and you guys aren't alone. I have been pushing radio and the radio merit badge for 2-3 years now.From what I see, as long as you bring the program our council will normally support it. You need to show thatyour program is popular and well attended so start out small and grow from there. The past two years at SummerCamp, I've had to teach the Radio merit badge at different locations. But that's okay because I was offeringsomething new and "cool" to the scouts. There's only about two other hams that help me with all this on aregular basis and I know there's other ham/scouters/scouts in our council area. I approached the council aboutdoing JOTA and they were basically open arms. SO, this will be the first year that we offer JOTA at our scoutcamp the entire weekend. Although it will be done in conjunction with an Explorer weekend, I have done justabout everything I could to publicize around the council. Now we just wait and see what happens.Bottom line is don't get discouraged. If you have the drive and desire to put on the program, eventually it willcatch on and you can run with it. Solicit a local ham club or just get other hams around your area to put togethera "Field Day" type setup.Good Luck,Dave AdsitStephens City, VAShenandoah Area Council----- Original Message -----From: mirkwood3522Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:36 AMSubject: [ScoutRadio] Re: Scouts safe
I started doing JOTA with our CubScout Pack. The Cubs loved it, and
last year I took it to the District Cub-O-Ree where it was again well
recieved. We had paper charts for them to work out the phonetics of
their first names, and for them to decipher phrases from their Cub
Scout Handbook written in Morse Code, as well as the opportunity to
talk to other Scouts by radio.
Now we are the new guys in the Boy Scout Troop. I have been trying
to make contact with other Radio Scouters in the Council to put
together a real show for the 50th JOTA. Nada, Zip, Nothing. Leaders
I spoke to wished me luck, but no hits. I had about decided to work
JOTA 2007 from home and send patches to the Scouts I worked. One
last try was to present the idea to the advisors of the local OA
lodge. I presented it as a side event, not interfering with their
Fall Fellowship program, but available to all who wanted to drop by.
They presented it to the Lodge Executive Council, some of whom had
seen their first JOTA in the Cub Pack. I will be operating from our
Council camp on Saturday Oct 20 from about 0900 EDT to 1800 EDT on
whichever HF bands give me propagation.
The key here is to start simple with the small kids, and your program
will grow as they grow.
Jim Baker KQ4BH
Troop 899 Troop Committee
Radio Merit Badge Counselor
http://www.w4gs. org/members/ kq4bh/index. html
> > *From:* ScoutRadio@yahoogro ups.com
[mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogro ups.com<ScoutRadio@yahoogro ups.com>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Joe Serocki
> > *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 8:32 PM
> > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogro ups.com
> > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Scouts safe
> > I need some assistance here.
> > Our Ham Radio Club offer Radio, Electronics and Electricity
> > classes to over 2000 Scouts, we get 20 takers. I was wondering
why. Then I
> > realized that at least out here in Illinois technology and
Scouting do not
> > mix. Scoutmasters frown on any sort of technology and won't allow
> > to bring anything technological on events. The technical merit
> > not Eagle required and there are plenty of easier merit badges
> > Electronics and Electricity.
> > I approached our Council and I was told that was the way it is. I
> > told not to bother with JOTA because no one would come out.
> > So, what gives? Is this only in my area or is this some sort of
> > phenomena? Can anyone offer any feedback?
> > Thanks
> > 73, Joe, N9IFG
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