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  • N2COP
    Dear Gary et al, I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal time for a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should
    Message 1 of 12 , Jan 12, 2006
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      Dear Gary et al,

      I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal time for
      a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should have some
      scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning the badge needs to be
      elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should encourage Radio
      Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities.

      In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could culminate with
      JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge classes
      coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to Field Day
      sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on to earn
      their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free HF license
      future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed Scouts take
      the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and ARRL would
      dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active" time.

      Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on Scouting
      should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations are due this
      coming July.

      73,
      Bill Morine, N2COP
      JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
      K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001 and 2005 National
      Jamborees
      Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
      ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section


      -----Original Message-----
      From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
      Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
      To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

      There are 3 messages in this issue.

      Topics in this digest:

      1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
      From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
      2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
      From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
      3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
      From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>


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      Message: 1
      Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
      From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
      Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

      We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
      Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
      announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
      4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
      starting a Tech course next week.

      Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
      aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

      With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
      run such an event in their area.

      It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
      the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a good
      weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
      complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

      Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

      73

      Gary, K2GW
      Radio MB Counselor
      CNJ Council






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      Message: 2
      Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
      From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
      Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

      In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in October.

      John
      N7MFQ
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
      To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
      Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day


      We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
      Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
      announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
      4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
      starting a Tech course next week.

      Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
      aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

      With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
      run such an event in their area.

      It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
      the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a good
      weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
      complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

      Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

      73

      Gary, K2GW
      Radio MB Counselor
      CNJ Council






      Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

      Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
      to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

      Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
      http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

      Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
      http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

      Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

      ScoutRadio start page:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
      addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

      Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
      Unsubscribe: ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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      Message: 3
      Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
      From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
      Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

      Gary, et al,

      I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, especially with the
      success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned, many organizations
      conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA. In Texas, we
      have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between Christmas and
      New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're conducting Radio Badge classes
      at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During March, the Dallas area
      has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the Radio Merit
      Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our Council conducts what
      used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge U -- in which
      the Radio MB is taught.

      I think different areas of the US have different opportunities, needs and
      school schedules. For example, many of our scouts may not be back from
      winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday. January is a
      difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the country,
      especially for travel to and from the MB class.

      Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger kids on the air
      to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather that we not mix
      scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids on the air.

      My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class up to local
      folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a "national Radio MB
      day" -- it's JOTA.

      Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a patch program.
      Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is somewhat national and
      is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The requirements are very similar
      (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in addition to JOTA,
      have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day. It's called Guides On
      The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of February. Radio
      Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need to be promoting a
      program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are often left out of
      this high tech adventure.

      73, Frank KR1ZAN
      Garland, TX

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Gary Wilson
      To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
      Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day


      We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
      Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
      announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
      4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
      starting a Tech course next week.

      Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
      aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

      With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
      run such an event in their area.

      It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
      the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a good
      weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
      complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

      Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

      73

      Gary, K2GW
      Radio MB Counselor
      CNJ Council






      Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

      Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
      to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

      Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
      http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

      Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
      http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

      Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

      ScoutRadio start page:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
      addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

      Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
      Unsubscribe: ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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      Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

      Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
      to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

      Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
      http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

      Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
      http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

      Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

      ScoutRadio start page:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
      addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

      Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
      Unsubscribe: ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      List owner: ScoutRadio-owner@yahoogroups.com

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    • Frank Krizan
      Bill, Thanks for the reminder of the ARRL ad hoc committee on scouting. I m curious how many of ScoutRadio readers have been contacted for any kind of input.
      Message 2 of 12 , Jan 12, 2006
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        Bill,
         
        Thanks for the reminder of the ARRL ad hoc committee on scouting.  I'm curious how many of ScoutRadio readers have been contacted for any kind of input.  Is there a web site that contains any of their thinking?
         
        73, Frank KR1ZAN
        Garland, TX
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: N2COP
        Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
        Subject: RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

        Dear Gary et al,

        I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal time for
        a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should have some
        scheduling flexibility.  That said, I think earning the badge needs to be
        elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should encourage Radio
        Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities. 

        In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could culminate with
        JOTA weekend.  These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge classes
        coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to Field Day
        sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on to earn
        their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free HF license
        future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed Scouts take
        the helm during JOTA in October.  In other words, BSA and ARRL would
        dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active" time.

        Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on Scouting
        should be addressing.  Their findings and recommendations are due this
        coming July.

        73,
        Bill Morine, N2COP
        JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
        K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001 and 2005 National
        Jamborees
        Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
        ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section


        -----Original Message-----
        From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
        Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
        To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

        There are 3 messages in this issue.

        Topics in this digest:

              1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                   From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
              2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                   From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
              3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                   From: "Frank Krizan" frank.krizan@...

         
        <<< Rest of message snipped out >>>
      • Frank Krizan
        Hi Bill, et al, This is a good discussion. I like your concept of events/activities that culminate with JOTA. I would offer an alternative/modification of
        Message 3 of 12 , Jan 12, 2006
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          Hi Bill, et al,
           
          This is a good discussion.  I like your concept of events/activities that culminate with JOTA.
           
          I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by seeking ARRL support for various summertime activities for scouting that include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry level) licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two week day camp program), operating events/challenges/contests, inexpensive self study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it -- $99 can be a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the online ARRL Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail (or at camp), and our imaginations can dream up more.  This would be a list of activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local councils, clubs, individuals -- not specific dates.  On the other hand, operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain operating events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger club.  For example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has its own Field Day.  Operators are encouraged to try different bands at different times of the day to experience propagation differences and scores are for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit, etc.  It's personal improvement ... personal challenges.   And ... of course ... lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.
           
          I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on the air for JOTA.  JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year to year for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
           
          *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc committee on scouting is doing?  Any postings of their current thinking?  Any readers contributing to their deliberation?
           
          73, Frank KR1ZAN
          Garland, TX
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: N2COP
          Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
          Subject: RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

          Dear Gary et al,

          I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal time for
          a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should have some
          scheduling flexibility.  That said, I think earning the badge needs to be
          elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should encourage Radio
          Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities. 

          In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could culminate with
          JOTA weekend.  These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge classes
          coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to Field Day
          sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on to earn
          their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free HF license
          future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed Scouts take
          the helm during JOTA in October.  In other words, BSA and ARRL would
          dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active" time.

          Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on Scouting
          should be addressing.  Their findings and recommendations are due this
          coming July.

          73,
          Bill Morine, N2COP
          JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
          K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001 and 2005 National
          Jamborees
          Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
          ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section


          -----Original Message-----
          From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
          Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
          To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

          There are 3 messages in this issue.

          Topics in this digest:

                1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                     From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                     From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                     From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>


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          Message: 1        
             Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
             From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
          Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

          We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
          Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
          announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
          4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
          starting a Tech course next week.

          Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
          aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

          With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
          run such an event in their area.

          It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
          the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a good
          weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
          complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

          Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

          73

          Gary, K2GW
          Radio MB Counselor
          CNJ Council






          ________________________________________________________________________
          ________________________________________________________________________

          Message: 2        
             Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
             From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
          Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

          In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in October.

          John
          N7MFQ
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
          To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
          Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day


          We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
          Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
          announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
          4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
          starting a Tech course next week.

          Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
          aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

          With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
          run such an event in their area.

          It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
          the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a good
          weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
          complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

          Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

          73

          Gary, K2GW
          Radio MB Counselor
          CNJ Council






          Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

          Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
          to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

          Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
          http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

          Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
          http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

          Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

          ScoutRadio start page:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
          addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

          Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
          Unsubscribe:  ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
          List owner:   ScoutRadio-owner@yahoogroups.com

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          Message: 3        
             Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
             From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
          Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

          Gary, et al,

          I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, especially with the
          success you've enjoyed.  As another poster mentioned, many organizations
          conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA.  In Texas, we
          have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between Christmas and
          New Year, and several teach Radio MB.  We're conducting Radio Badge classes
          at some summer camps and at HamCom in June.  During March, the Dallas area
          has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the Radio Merit
          Badge is also taught.  During the summer months, our Council conducts what
          used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge U -- in which
          the Radio MB is taught.

          I think different areas of the US have different opportunities, needs and
          school schedules.  For example, many of our scouts may not be back from
          winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday.  January is a
          difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the country,
          especially for travel to and from the MB class. 

          Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger kids on the air
          to talk with some other younger kids.  I would rather that we not mix
          scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids on the air. 

          My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class up to local
          folks.  As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a "national Radio MB
          day" -- it's JOTA.

          Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a patch program.
          Several councils have a Radio Patch.  One of them is somewhat national and
          is described on the ARRL Scouting pages.  The requirements are very similar
          (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB.  Girl Scouts, in addition to JOTA,
          have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.  It's called Guides On
          The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of February.   Radio
          Scouting should be for girls as well as guys.  We need to be promoting a
          program for GSUSA for Ham Radio.  Our young ladies are often left out of
          this high tech adventure. 

          73, Frank KR1ZAN
          Garland, TX

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Gary Wilson
            To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
            Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day


            We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
            Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
            announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
            4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
            starting a Tech course next week.

            Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
            aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

            With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
            run such an event in their area.

            It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
            the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a good
            weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
            complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

            Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for consideration.

            73

            Gary, K2GW
            Radio MB Counselor
            CNJ Council






            Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

            Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
          to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

            Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
            http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

            Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
            http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

            Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

            ScoutRadio start page:
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
          addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

            Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
            Unsubscribe:  ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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          Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk

          Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe
          to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth

          Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
          http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

          Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
          http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml

          Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/

          ScoutRadio start page:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member email
          addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)

          Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
          Unsubscribe:  ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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        • Allan R. Batteiger
          Frank Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of years I have taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA ( RB in the morning, then
          Message 4 of 12 , Jan 13, 2006
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            Frank
            Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of years I have
            taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA ( RB in the
            morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air) and one of
            the Councils Merit Universities. After this last year ( 2005 ) I had a
            number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio. Over the Christmas Break
            Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class, we had 4
            scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. All but 2 of the scouts
            passed on the first try. We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
            Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around Ham-Com,
            Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this year. The
            intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT class
            with VE Test session immediately available.

            Allan R. Batteiger
            WB5QNG

            Frank Krizan wrote:

            > Hi Bill, et al,
            >
            > This is a good discussion. I like your concept of events/activities
            > that culminate with JOTA.
            >
            > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by seeking
            > ARRL support for various summertime activities for scouting that
            > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry level)
            > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two week day
            > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests, inexpensive self
            > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it -- $99 can be
            > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the online ARRL
            > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail (or at camp),
            > and our imaginations can dream up more. This would be a list of
            > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local councils,
            > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates. On the other hand,
            > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or
            > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain operating
            > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger club. For
            > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has its own Field
            > Day. Operators are encouraged to try different bands at different
            > times of the day to experience propagation differences and scores are
            > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit, etc. It's
            > personal improvement ... personal challenges. And ... of course ...
            > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.
            >
            > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on the air
            > for JOTA. JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year to year
            > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
            >
            > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc committee on
            > scouting is doing? Any postings of their current thinking? Any
            > readers contributing to their deliberation?
            >
            > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
            > Garland, TX
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
            > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
            > *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
            > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
            >
            > Dear Gary et al,
            >
            > I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal
            > time for
            > a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should
            > have some
            > scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning the badge
            > needs to be
            > elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should
            > encourage Radio
            > Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities.
            >
            > In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could
            > culminate with
            > JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge classes
            > coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to
            > Field Day
            > sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on
            > to earn
            > their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free
            > HF license
            > future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed
            > Scouts take
            > the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and ARRL would
            > dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active" time.
            >
            > Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on
            > Scouting
            > should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations are due this
            > coming July.
            >
            > 73,
            > Bill Morine, N2COP
            > JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
            > K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001 and 2005
            > National
            > Jamborees
            > Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
            > ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section
            >
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
            > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
            > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
            >
            > There are 3 messages in this issue.
            >
            > Topics in this digest:
            >
            > 1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
            > 2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
            > 3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
            >
            >
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            >
            > Message: 1
            > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
            > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
            > Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            >
            > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
            > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
            > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
            > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
            > starting a Tech course next week.
            >
            > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
            > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
            >
            > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
            > could
            > run such an event in their area.
            >
            > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
            > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a good
            > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
            > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
            >
            > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
            > consideration.
            >
            > 73
            >
            > Gary, K2GW
            > Radio MB Counselor
            > CNJ Council
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            >
            > Message: 2
            > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
            > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
            > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            >
            > In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in
            > October.
            >
            > John
            > N7MFQ
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
            > To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
            > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            >
            >
            > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
            > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
            > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
            > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
            > starting a Tech course next week.
            >
            > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
            > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
            >
            > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
            > run such an event in their area.
            >
            > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
            > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a good
            > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
            > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
            >
            > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
            > consideration.
            >
            > 73
            >
            > Gary, K2GW
            > Radio MB Counselor
            > CNJ Council
            >
            >
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            > ________________________________________________________________________
            >
            > Message: 3
            > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
            > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
            > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            >
            > Gary, et al,
            >
            > I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, especially with the
            > success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned, many
            > organizations
            > conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA. In
            > Texas, we
            > have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between
            > Christmas and
            > New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're conducting Radio
            > Badge classes
            > at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During March, the
            > Dallas area
            > has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the
            > Radio Merit
            > Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our Council
            > conducts what
            > used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge U --
            > in which
            > the Radio MB is taught.
            >
            > I think different areas of the US have different opportunities,
            > needs and
            > school schedules. For example, many of our scouts may not be back
            > from
            > winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday.
            > January is a
            > difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the
            > country,
            > especially for travel to and from the MB class.
            >
            > Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger kids on
            > the air
            > to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather that we not mix
            > scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids on the
            > air.
            >
            > My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class
            > up to local
            > folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a "national
            > Radio MB
            > day" -- it's JOTA.
            >
            > Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a patch
            > program.
            > Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is somewhat
            > national and
            > is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The requirements are
            > very similar
            > (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in addition
            > to JOTA,
            > have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day. It's called
            > Guides On
            > The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of February. Radio
            > Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need to be
            > promoting a
            > program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are often left
            > out of
            > this high tech adventure.
            >
            > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
            > Garland, TX
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: Gary Wilson
            > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
            > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
            >
            >
            > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
            > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
            > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day
            > with
            > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will noew be
            > starting a Tech course next week.
            >
            > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next year we'll
            > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
            >
            > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
            > could
            > run such an event in their area.
            >
            > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
            > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year. It's a
            > good
            > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar
            > and
            > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
            >
            > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
            > consideration.
            >
            > 73
            >
            > Gary, K2GW
            > Radio MB Counselor
            > CNJ Council
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
          • Frank Krizan
            Hi Allan, Fantastic. I like the idea of a two day course. It s difficult to keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and the fumes )
            Message 5 of 12 , Jan 14, 2006
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              Hi Allan,

              Fantastic.  I like the idea of a two day course.  It's difficult to keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and the 'fumes') distract them.  Something like a weekend course, maybe at a camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers, 'fumes', and voila -- learning.  I think there needs to be followup for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer questions prompted by the course.
               
              Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the course?  My experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2 almost guarantees a very high pass rate.
               
              We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
               
              73, Frank KR1ZAN
              Garland, TX
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
              Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

              Frank
                Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of years I have
              taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA ( RB in the
              morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air) and one of
              the Councils Merit Universities.   After this last year ( 2005 ) I had a
              number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio.  Over the Christmas Break
              Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class,  we had 4
              scouts and 2 other youths take the classes.  All but 2 of the scouts
              passed on the first try.  We had a 70% pass rate of the class. 
              Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around Ham-Com,
              Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this year.   The
              intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT class
              with VE Test session immediately available.

              Allan R. Batteiger
              WB5QNG

              Frank Krizan wrote:

              > Hi Bill, et al,

              > This is a good discussion.  I like your concept of events/activities
              > that culminate with JOTA.

              > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by seeking
              > ARRL support for various summertime activities for scouting that
              > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry level)
              > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two week day
              > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests, inexpensive self
              > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it -- $99 can be
              > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the online ARRL
              > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail (or at camp),
              > and our imaginations can dream up more.  This would be a list of
              > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local councils,
              > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates.  On the other hand,
              > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or
              > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain operating
              > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger club.  For
              > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has its own Field
              > Day.  Operators are encouraged to try different bands at different
              > times of the day to experience propagation differences and scores are
              > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit, etc.  It's
              > personal improvement ... personal challenges.   And ... of course ...
              > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.

              > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on the air
              > for JOTA.  JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year to year
              > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.

              > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc committee on
              > scouting is doing?  Any postings of their current thinking?  Any
              > readers contributing to their deliberation?

              > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
              > Garland, TX

              >
              >     ----- Original Message -----
              >     *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
              >     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
              >     *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
              >     *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
              >
              >     Dear Gary et al,
              >
              >     I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the optimal
              >     time for
              >     a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should
              >     have some
              >     scheduling flexibility.  That said, I think earning the badge
              >     needs to be
              >     elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should
              >     encourage Radio
              >     Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities.
              >
              >     In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could
              >     culminate with
              >     JOTA weekend.  These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge classes
              >     coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to
              >     Field Day
              >     sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on
              >     to earn
              >     their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free
              >     HF license
              >     future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed
              >     Scouts take
              >     the helm during JOTA in October.  In other words, BSA and ARRL would
              >     dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active" time.
              >
              >     Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on
              >     Scouting
              >     should be addressing.  Their findings and recommendations are due this
              >     coming July.
              >
              >     73,
              >     Bill Morine, N2COP
              >     JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
              >     K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001 and 2005
              >     National
              >     Jamborees
              >     Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
              >     ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section
              >
              >
              >     -----Original Message-----
              >     From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
              >     Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
              >     To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
              >     Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
              >
              >     There are 3 messages in this issue.
              >
              >     Topics in this digest:
              >
              >           1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >                From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
              >           2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >                From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
              >           3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >                From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
              >
              >
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >
              >     Message: 1       
              >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
              >        From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
              >     Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >
              >     We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
              >     Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
              >     announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
              >     4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
              >     starting a Tech course next week.
              >
              >     Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
              >     aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
              >
              >     With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
              >     could
              >     run such an event in their area.
              >
              >     It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
              >     the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a good
              >     weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
              >     complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
              >
              >     Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
              >     consideration.
              >
              >     73
              >
              >     Gary, K2GW
              >     Radio MB Counselor
              >     CNJ Council
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >
              >     Message: 2       
              >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
              >        From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
              >     Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >
              >     In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in
              >     October.
              >
              >     John
              >     N7MFQ
              >     ----- Original Message -----
              >     From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
              >     To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
              >     Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
              >     Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >
              >
              >     We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
              >     Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
              >     announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day with
              >     4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
              >     starting a Tech course next week.
              >
              >     Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
              >     aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
              >
              >     With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone could
              >     run such an event in their area.
              >
              >     It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
              >     the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a good
              >     weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar and
              >     complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
              >
              >     Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
              >     consideration.
              >
              >     73
              >
              >     Gary, K2GW
              >     Radio MB Counselor
              >     CNJ Council
              >
              >
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >     ________________________________________________________________________
              >
              >     Message: 3       
              >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
              >        From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
              >     Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >
              >     Gary, et al,
              >
              >     I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, especially with the
              >     success you've enjoyed.  As another poster mentioned, many
              >     organizations
              >     conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA.  In
              >     Texas, we
              >     have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between
              >     Christmas and
              >     New Year, and several teach Radio MB.  We're conducting Radio
              >     Badge classes
              >     at some summer camps and at HamCom in June.  During March, the
              >     Dallas area
              >     has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the
              >     Radio Merit
              >     Badge is also taught.  During the summer months, our Council
              >     conducts what
              >     used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge U --
              >     in which
              >     the Radio MB is taught.
              >
              >     I think different areas of the US have different opportunities,
              >     needs and
              >     school schedules.  For example, many of our scouts may not be back
              >     from
              >     winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday.
              >     January is a
              >     difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the
              >     country,
              >     especially for travel to and from the MB class.
              >
              >     Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger kids on
              >     the air
              >     to talk with some other younger kids.  I would rather that we not mix
              >     scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids on the
              >     air.
              >
              >     My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class
              >     up to local
              >     folks.  As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a "national
              >     Radio MB
              >     day" -- it's JOTA.
              >
              >     Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a patch
              >     program.
              >     Several councils have a Radio Patch.  One of them is somewhat
              >     national and
              >     is described on the ARRL Scouting pages.  The requirements are
              >     very similar
              >     (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB.  Girl Scouts, in addition
              >     to JOTA,
              >     have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.  It's called
              >     Guides On
              >     The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of February.   Radio
              >     Scouting should be for girls as well as guys.  We need to be
              >     promoting a
              >     program for GSUSA for Ham Radio.  Our young ladies are often left
              >     out of
              >     this high tech adventure.
              >
              >     73, Frank KR1ZAN
              >     Garland, TX
              >
              >       ----- Original Message -----
              >       From: Gary Wilson
              >       To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
              >       Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
              >       Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
              >
              >
              >       We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
              >       Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
              >       announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one day
              >     with
              >       4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will noew be
              >       starting a Tech course next week.
              >
              >       Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next year we'll
              >       aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
              >
              >       With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
              >     could
              >       run such an event in their area.
              >
              >       It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national event for
              >       the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.  It's a
              >     good
              >       weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops calendar
              >     and
              >       complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
              >
              >       Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
              >     consideration.
              >
              >       73
              >
              >       Gary, K2GW
              >       Radio MB Counselor
              >       CNJ Council
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >

            • Allan R. Batteiger
              Frank I did not place an age limit on the scouts. The announcement about the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader list. The class had
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                Frank
                I did not place an age limit on the scouts. The announcement about
                the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader list.
                The class had 11 people in it, 4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we had a
                good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the class.
                More classes are currently being scheduled. I have also had request for
                General and Extra classes. These are being looked into for possible
                scheduling in the future.

                Allan Batteiger
                WB5QNG

                Frank Krizan wrote:

                > Hi Allan,
                >
                > Fantastic. I like the idea of a two day course. It's difficult to
                > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and the
                > 'fumes') distract them. Something like a weekend course, maybe at a
                > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                > 'fumes', and voila -- learning. I think there needs to be followup
                > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                > questions prompted by the course.
                >
                > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the course? My
                > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2 almost
                > guarantees a very high pass rate.
                >
                > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
                >
                > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                > Garland, TX
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                > *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
                > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                >
                > Frank
                > Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of years I have
                > taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA ( RB
                > in the
                > morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air) and one of
                > the Councils Merit Universities. After this last year ( 2005 ) I
                > had a
                > number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio. Over the Christmas
                > Break
                > Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class, we had 4
                > scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. All but 2 of the scouts
                > passed on the first try. We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
                > Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around Ham-Com,
                > Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this year. The
                > intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT
                > class
                > with VE Test session immediately available.
                >
                > Allan R. Batteiger
                > WB5QNG
                >
                > Frank Krizan wrote:
                >
                > > Hi Bill, et al,
                > >
                > > This is a good discussion. I like your concept of
                > events/activities
                > > that culminate with JOTA.
                > >
                > > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by
                > seeking
                > > ARRL support for various summertime activities for scouting that
                > > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry level)
                > > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two week day
                > > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests, inexpensive
                > self
                > > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it -- $99
                > can be
                > > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the online ARRL
                > > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail (or at
                > camp),
                > > and our imaginations can dream up more. This would be a list of
                > > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local councils,
                > > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates. On the other hand,
                > > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or
                > > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain
                > operating
                > > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger club. For
                > > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has its own
                > Field
                > > Day. Operators are encouraged to try different bands at different
                > > times of the day to experience propagation differences and
                > scores are
                > > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit, etc.
                > It's
                > > personal improvement ... personal challenges. And ... of
                > course ...
                > > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.
                > >
                > > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on
                > the air
                > > for JOTA. JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year
                > to year
                > > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
                > >
                > > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc committee on
                > > scouting is doing? Any postings of their current thinking? Any
                > > readers contributing to their deliberation?
                > >
                > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                > > Garland, TX
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
                > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
                > > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                > >
                > > Dear Gary et al,
                > >
                > > I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the
                > optimal
                > > time for
                > > a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should
                > > have some
                > > scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning the badge
                > > needs to be
                > > elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should
                > > encourage Radio
                > > Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities.
                > >
                > > In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could
                > > culminate with
                > > JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge
                > classes
                > > coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to
                > > Field Day
                > > sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on
                > > to earn
                > > their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free
                > > HF license
                > > future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed
                > > Scouts take
                > > the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and
                > ARRL would
                > > dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active"
                > time.
                > >
                > > Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on
                > > Scouting
                > > should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations
                > are due this
                > > coming July.
                > >
                > > 73,
                > > Bill Morine, N2COP
                > > JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
                > > K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001
                > and 2005
                > > National
                > > Jamborees
                > > Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
                > > ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section
                > >
                > >
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                > [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
                > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                > >
                > > There are 3 messages in this issue.
                > >
                > > Topics in this digest:
                > >
                > > 1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                > > 2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                > > 3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > > Message: 1
                > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
                > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                > > Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > >
                > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
                > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
                > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one
                > day with
                > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will
                > noew be
                > > starting a Tech course next week.
                > >
                > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                > year we'll
                > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                > >
                > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
                > > could
                > > run such an event in their area.
                > >
                > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                > event for
                > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                > It's a good
                > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                > calendar and
                > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                > >
                > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                > > consideration.
                > >
                > > 73
                > >
                > > Gary, K2GW
                > > Radio MB Counselor
                > > CNJ Council
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > > Message: 2
                > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
                > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > >
                > > In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in
                > > October.
                > >
                > > John
                > > N7MFQ
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                > > To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
                > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > >
                > >
                > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
                > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
                > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one
                > day with
                > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts will
                > noew be
                > > starting a Tech course next week.
                > >
                > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                > year we'll
                > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                > >
                > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                > anyone could
                > > run such an event in their area.
                > >
                > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                > event for
                > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                > It's a good
                > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                > calendar and
                > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                > >
                > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                > > consideration.
                > >
                > > 73
                > >
                > > Gary, K2GW
                > > Radio MB Counselor
                > > CNJ Council
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > ________________________________________________________________________
                > >
                > > Message: 3
                > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
                > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > >
                > > Gary, et al,
                > >
                > > I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project,
                > especially with the
                > > success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned, many
                > > organizations
                > > conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA. In
                > > Texas, we
                > > have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between
                > > Christmas and
                > > New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're conducting Radio
                > > Badge classes
                > > at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During March, the
                > > Dallas area
                > > has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the
                > > Radio Merit
                > > Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our Council
                > > conducts what
                > > used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge
                > U --
                > > in which
                > > the Radio MB is taught.
                > >
                > > I think different areas of the US have different opportunities,
                > > needs and
                > > school schedules. For example, many of our scouts may not
                > be back
                > > from
                > > winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday.
                > > January is a
                > > difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the
                > > country,
                > > especially for travel to and from the MB class.
                > >
                > > Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger
                > kids on
                > > the air
                > > to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather that
                > we not mix
                > > scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids
                > on the
                > > air.
                > >
                > > My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class
                > > up to local
                > > folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a
                > "national
                > > Radio MB
                > > day" -- it's JOTA.
                > >
                > > Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a
                > patch
                > > program.
                > > Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is somewhat
                > > national and
                > > is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The requirements are
                > > very similar
                > > (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in
                > addition
                > > to JOTA,
                > > have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day. It's
                > called
                > > Guides On
                > > The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of
                > February. Radio
                > > Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need to be
                > > promoting a
                > > program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are often
                > left
                > > out of
                > > this high tech adventure.
                > >
                > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                > > Garland, TX
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: Gary Wilson
                > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
                > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                > >
                > >
                > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge
                > Day at
                > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single e-mail
                > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in
                > one day
                > > with
                > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                > will noew be
                > > starting a Tech course next week.
                > >
                > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                > year we'll
                > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                > >
                > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                > anyone
                > > could
                > > run such an event in their area.
                > >
                > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                > event for
                > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                > It's a
                > > good
                > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                > calendar
                > > and
                > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                > >
                > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                > > consideration.
                > >
                > > 73
                > >
                > > Gary, K2GW
                > > Radio MB Counselor
                > > CNJ Council
                > >
                >
              • Frank Krizan
                Allan, Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group? ... and again, great work. 73, Frank KR1ZAN Garland, TX ... From: Allan R. Batteiger
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                  Allan,
                   
                  Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group?
                   
                  ... and again, great work.
                   
                  73, Frank KR1ZAN
                  Garland, TX
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:51 AM
                  Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

                  Frank
                      I did not place an age limit on the scouts.   The announcement about
                  the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader list.  
                  The class had 11 people in it,  4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we had a
                  good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the class. 
                  More classes are currently being scheduled.  I have also had request for
                  General and Extra classes.   These are being looked into for possible
                  scheduling in the future.

                  Allan Batteiger
                  WB5QNG

                  Frank Krizan wrote:

                  > Hi Allan,
                  >
                  > Fantastic.  I like the idea of a two day course.  It's difficult to
                  > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and the
                  > 'fumes') distract them.  Something like a weekend course, maybe at a
                  > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                  > 'fumes', and voila -- learning.  I think there needs to be followup
                  > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                  > questions prompted by the course.

                  > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the course?  My
                  > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2 almost
                  > guarantees a very high pass rate.

                  > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.

                  > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                  > Garland, TX
                  >
                  >     ----- Original Message -----
                  >     *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                  >     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                  >     *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
                  >     *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                  >
                  >     Frank
                  >       Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of years I have
                  >     taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA ( RB
                  >     in the
                  >     morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air) and one of
                  >     the Councils Merit Universities.   After this last year ( 2005 ) I
                  >     had a
                  >     number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio.  Over the Christmas
                  >     Break
                  >     Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class,  we had 4
                  >     scouts and 2 other youths take the classes.  All but 2 of the scouts
                  >     passed on the first try.  We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
                  >     Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around Ham-Com,
                  >     Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this year.   The
                  >     intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT
                  >     class
                  >     with VE Test session immediately available.
                  >
                  >     Allan R. Batteiger
                  >     WB5QNG
                  >
                  >     Frank Krizan wrote:
                  >
                  >     > Hi Bill, et al,
                  >     >
                  >     > This is a good discussion.  I like your concept of
                  >     events/activities
                  >     > that culminate with JOTA.
                  >     >
                  >     > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by
                  >     seeking
                  >     > ARRL support for various summertime activities for scouting that
                  >     > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry level)
                  >     > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two week day
                  >     > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests, inexpensive
                  >     self
                  >     > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it -- $99
                  >     can be
                  >     > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the online ARRL
                  >     > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail (or at
                  >     camp),
                  >     > and our imaginations can dream up more.  This would be a list of
                  >     > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local councils,
                  >     > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates.  On the other hand,
                  >     > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or
                  >     > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain
                  >     operating
                  >     > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger club.  For
                  >     > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has its own
                  >     Field
                  >     > Day.  Operators are encouraged to try different bands at different
                  >     > times of the day to experience propagation differences and
                  >     scores are
                  >     > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit, etc.
                  >     It's
                  >     > personal improvement ... personal challenges.   And ... of
                  >     course ...
                  >     > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.
                  >     >
                  >     > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on
                  >     the air
                  >     > for JOTA.  JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year
                  >     to year
                  >     > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
                  >     >
                  >     > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc committee on
                  >     > scouting is doing?  Any postings of their current thinking?  Any
                  >     > readers contributing to their deliberation?
                  >     >
                  >     > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                  >     > Garland, TX
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >     ----- Original Message -----
                  >     >     *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
                  >     >     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                  >     <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                  >     >     *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
                  >     >     *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                  >     >
                  >     >     Dear Gary et al,
                  >     >
                  >     >     I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the
                  >     optimal
                  >     >     time for
                  >     >     a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local councils should
                  >     >     have some
                  >     >     scheduling flexibility.  That said, I think earning the badge
                  >     >     needs to be
                  >     >     elevated across all councils; specifically, councils should
                  >     >     encourage Radio
                  >     >     Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA activities.
                  >     >
                  >     >     In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could
                  >     >     culminate with
                  >     >     JOTA weekend.  These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge
                  >     classes
                  >     >     coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are invited to
                  >     >     Field Day
                  >     >     sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3) scouts go on
                  >     >     to earn
                  >     >     their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible code-free
                  >     >     HF license
                  >     >     future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly licensed
                  >     >     Scouts take
                  >     >     the helm during JOTA in October.  In other words, BSA and
                  >     ARRL would
                  >     >     dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio Active"
                  >     time.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc Committee on
                  >     >     Scouting
                  >     >     should be addressing.  Their findings and recommendations
                  >     are due this
                  >     >     coming July.
                  >     >
                  >     >     73,
                  >     >     Bill Morine, N2COP
                  >     >     JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
                  >     >     K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001
                  >     and 2005
                  >     >     National
                  >     >     Jamborees
                  >     >     Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
                  >     >     ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >     -----Original Message-----
                  >     >     From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                  >     [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                  >     >     Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
                  >     >     To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                  >     >     Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                  >     >
                  >     >     There are 3 messages in this issue.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Topics in this digest:
                  >     >
                  >     >           1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >                From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                  >     >           2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >                From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                  >     >           3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >                From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >
                  >     >     Message: 1      
                  >     >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
                  >     >        From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                  >     >     Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >
                  >     >     We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
                  >     >     Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
                  >     >     announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one
                  >     day with
                  >     >     4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will
                  >     noew be
                  >     >     starting a Tech course next week.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next
                  >     year we'll
                  >     >     aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                  >     >
                  >     >     With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio, anyone
                  >     >     could
                  >     >     run such an event in their area.
                  >     >
                  >     >     It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                  >     event for
                  >     >     the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                  >     It's a good
                  >     >     weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                  >     calendar and
                  >     >     complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                  >     >     consideration.
                  >     >
                  >     >     73
                  >     >
                  >     >     Gary, K2GW
                  >     >     Radio MB Counselor
                  >     >     CNJ Council
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >
                  >     >     Message: 2      
                  >     >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
                  >     >        From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                  >     >     Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >
                  >     >     In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA, annually in
                  >     >     October.
                  >     >
                  >     >     John
                  >     >     N7MFQ
                  >     >     ----- Original Message -----
                  >     >     From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                  >     >     To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                  >     >     Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
                  >     >     Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >     We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge Day at
                  >     >     Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
                  >     >     announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in one
                  >     day with
                  >     >     4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts will
                  >     noew be
                  >     >     starting a Tech course next week.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next
                  >     year we'll
                  >     >     aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                  >     >
                  >     >     With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                  >     anyone could
                  >     >     run such an event in their area.
                  >     >
                  >     >     It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                  >     event for
                  >     >     the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                  >     It's a good
                  >     >     weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                  >     calendar and
                  >     >     complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                  >     >     consideration.
                  >     >
                  >     >     73
                  >     >
                  >     >     Gary, K2GW
                  >     >     Radio MB Counselor
                  >     >     CNJ Council
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >   
                  >     ________________________________________________________________________
                  >     >
                  >     >     Message: 3      
                  >     >        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
                  >     >        From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                  >     >     Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >
                  >     >     Gary, et al,
                  >     >
                  >     >     I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project,
                  >     especially with the
                  >     >     success you've enjoyed.  As another poster mentioned, many
                  >     >     organizations
                  >     >     conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with JOTA.  In
                  >     >     Texas, we
                  >     >     have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp between
                  >     >     Christmas and
                  >     >     New Year, and several teach Radio MB.  We're conducting Radio
                  >     >     Badge classes
                  >     >     at some summer camps and at HamCom in June.  During March, the
                  >     >     Dallas area
                  >     >     has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in which the
                  >     >     Radio Merit
                  >     >     Badge is also taught.  During the summer months, our Council
                  >     >     conducts what
                  >     >     used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit Badge
                  >     U --
                  >     >     in which
                  >     >     the Radio MB is taught.
                  >     >
                  >     >     I think different areas of the US have different opportunities,
                  >     >     needs and
                  >     >     school schedules.  For example, many of our scouts may not
                  >     be back
                  >     >     from
                  >     >     winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first Saturday.
                  >     >     January is a
                  >     >     difficult month to forecast the weather in various parts of the
                  >     >     country,
                  >     >     especially for travel to and from the MB class.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger
                  >     kids on
                  >     >     the air
                  >     >     to talk with some other younger kids.  I would rather that
                  >     we not mix
                  >     >     scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids
                  >     on the
                  >     >     air.
                  >     >
                  >     >     My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB clinic or class
                  >     >     up to local
                  >     >     folks.  As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a
                  >     "national
                  >     >     Radio MB
                  >     >     day" -- it's JOTA.
                  >     >
                  >     >     Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do have a
                  >     patch
                  >     >     program.
                  >     >     Several councils have a Radio Patch.  One of them is somewhat
                  >     >     national and
                  >     >     is described on the ARRL Scouting pages.  The requirements are
                  >     >     very similar
                  >     >     (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB.  Girl Scouts, in
                  >     addition
                  >     >     to JOTA,
                  >     >     have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.  It's
                  >     called
                  >     >     Guides On
                  >     >     The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of
                  >     February.   Radio
                  >     >     Scouting should be for girls as well as guys.  We need to be
                  >     >     promoting a
                  >     >     program for GSUSA for Ham Radio.  Our young ladies are often
                  >     left
                  >     >     out of
                  >     >     this high tech adventure.
                  >     >
                  >     >     73, Frank KR1ZAN
                  >     >     Garland, TX
                  >     >
                  >     >       ----- Original Message -----
                  >     >       From: Gary Wilson
                  >     >       To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                  >     >       Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
                  >     >       Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                  >     >
                  >     >
                  >     >       We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit Badge
                  >     Day at
                  >     >       Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ.  With only a single e-mail
                  >     >       announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in
                  >     one day
                  >     >     with
                  >     >       4 leaders and 19 hams assisting.  Many of those Scouts
                  >     will noew be
                  >     >       starting a Tech course next week.
                  >     >
                  >     >       Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next
                  >     year we'll
                  >     >       aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                  >     >
                  >     >       With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                  >     anyone
                  >     >     could
                  >     >       run such an event in their area.
                  >     >
                  >     >       It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                  >     event for
                  >     >       the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                  >     It's a
                  >     >     good
                  >     >       weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                  >     calendar
                  >     >     and
                  >     >       complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                  >     >
                  >     >       Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                  >     >     consideration.
                  >     >
                  >     >       73
                  >     >
                  >     >       Gary, K2GW
                  >     >       Radio MB Counselor
                  >     >       CNJ Council
                  >     >
                  >

                • Allan R. Batteiger
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                    Frank
                    Tony and I are cleaning up the PPT presentations a bit. We used
                    several videos from the net, "the ARRL Walter Cronkite", Jay Leno "txt
                    vs Morse", a Electrical safety video, Along with the NYT course
                    outline. We mostly followed the NYT instructor guide along with some
                    power points that we modified. I can upload all of this but it will
                    take over 100mb. The PPT are about 14mb.

                    Allan R. Batteiger
                    WB5QNG

                    Frank Krizan wrote:

                    > Allan,
                    >
                    > Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group?
                    >
                    > ... and again, great work.
                    >
                    > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                    > Garland, TX
                    >
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                    > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                    > *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:51 AM
                    > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                    >
                    > Frank
                    > I did not place an age limit on the scouts. The announcement
                    > about
                    > the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader
                    > list.
                    > The class had 11 people in it, 4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we
                    > had a
                    > good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the
                    > class.
                    > More classes are currently being scheduled. I have also had
                    > request for
                    > General and Extra classes. These are being looked into for possible
                    > scheduling in the future.
                    >
                    > Allan Batteiger
                    > WB5QNG
                    >
                    > Frank Krizan wrote:
                    >
                    > > Hi Allan,
                    > >
                    > > Fantastic. I like the idea of a two day course. It's difficult to
                    > > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and
                    > the
                    > > 'fumes') distract them. Something like a weekend course, maybe
                    > at a
                    > > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                    > > 'fumes', and voila -- learning. I think there needs to be followup
                    > > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                    > > questions prompted by the course.
                    > >
                    > > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the
                    > course? My
                    > > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2
                    > almost
                    > > guarantees a very high pass rate.
                    > >
                    > > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
                    > >
                    > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                    > > Garland, TX
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                    > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                    > > *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
                    > > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                    > >
                    > > Frank
                    > > Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of
                    > years I have
                    > > taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA
                    > ( RB
                    > > in the
                    > > morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air)
                    > and one of
                    > > the Councils Merit Universities. After this last year (
                    > 2005 ) I
                    > > had a
                    > > number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio. Over the
                    > Christmas
                    > > Break
                    > > Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class, we
                    > had 4
                    > > scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. All but 2 of
                    > the scouts
                    > > passed on the first try. We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
                    > > Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around
                    > Ham-Com,
                    > > Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this
                    > year. The
                    > > intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT
                    > > class
                    > > with VE Test session immediately available.
                    > >
                    > > Allan R. Batteiger
                    > > WB5QNG
                    > >
                    > > Frank Krizan wrote:
                    > >
                    > > > Hi Bill, et al,
                    > > >
                    > > > This is a good discussion. I like your concept of
                    > > events/activities
                    > > > that culminate with JOTA.
                    > > >
                    > > > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by
                    > > seeking
                    > > > ARRL support for various summertime activities for
                    > scouting that
                    > > > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry
                    > level)
                    > > > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two
                    > week day
                    > > > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests,
                    > inexpensive
                    > > self
                    > > > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it
                    > -- $99
                    > > can be
                    > > > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the
                    > online ARRL
                    > > > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail
                    > (or at
                    > > camp),
                    > > > and our imaginations can dream up more. This would be a
                    > list of
                    > > > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local
                    > councils,
                    > > > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates. On the other hand,
                    > > > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends -- or
                    > > > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain
                    > > operating
                    > > > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger
                    > club. For
                    > > > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has
                    > its own
                    > > Field
                    > > > Day. Operators are encouraged to try different bands at
                    > different
                    > > > times of the day to experience propagation differences and
                    > > scores are
                    > > > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit,
                    > etc.
                    > > It's
                    > > > personal improvement ... personal challenges. And ... of
                    > > course ...
                    > > > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and FOOD.
                    > > >
                    > > > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on
                    > > the air
                    > > > for JOTA. JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from year
                    > > to year
                    > > > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
                    > > >
                    > > > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc
                    > committee on
                    > > > scouting is doing? Any postings of their current
                    > thinking? Any
                    > > > readers contributing to their deliberation?
                    > > >
                    > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                    > > > Garland, TX
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
                    > > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                    > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
                    > > > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                    > > >
                    > > > Dear Gary et al,
                    > > >
                    > > > I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not be the
                    > > optimal
                    > > > time for
                    > > > a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local
                    > councils should
                    > > > have some
                    > > > scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning
                    > the badge
                    > > > needs to be
                    > > > elevated across all councils; specifically, councils
                    > should
                    > > > encourage Radio
                    > > > Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA
                    > activities.
                    > > >
                    > > > In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that could
                    > > > culminate with
                    > > > JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge
                    > > classes
                    > > > coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are
                    > invited to
                    > > > Field Day
                    > > > sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3)
                    > scouts go on
                    > > > to earn
                    > > > their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible
                    > code-free
                    > > > HF license
                    > > > future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly
                    > licensed
                    > > > Scouts take
                    > > > the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and
                    > > ARRL would
                    > > > dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio
                    > Active"
                    > > time.
                    > > >
                    > > > Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc
                    > Committee on
                    > > > Scouting
                    > > > should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations
                    > > are due this
                    > > > coming July.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73,
                    > > > Bill Morine, N2COP
                    > > > JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
                    > > > K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001
                    > > and 2005
                    > > > National
                    > > > Jamborees
                    > > > Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
                    > > > ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina
                    > Section
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > > From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > > [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                    > > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
                    > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                    > > >
                    > > > There are 3 messages in this issue.
                    > > >
                    > > > Topics in this digest:
                    > > >
                    > > > 1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                    > > > 2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                    > > > 3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > > > Message: 1
                    > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
                    > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                    > > > Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > >
                    > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                    > Badge Day at
                    > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                    > e-mail
                    > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                    > in one
                    > > day with
                    > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                    > will
                    > > noew be
                    > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                    > > >
                    > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                    > > year we'll
                    > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                    > > >
                    > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                    > Radio, anyone
                    > > > could
                    > > > run such an event in their area.
                    > > >
                    > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                    > > event for
                    > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                    > > It's a good
                    > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                    > > calendar and
                    > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                    > > >
                    > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                    > > > consideration.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73
                    > > >
                    > > > Gary, K2GW
                    > > > Radio MB Counselor
                    > > > CNJ Council
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > > > Message: 2
                    > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
                    > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                    > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > >
                    > > > In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA,
                    > annually in
                    > > > October.
                    > > >
                    > > > John
                    > > > N7MFQ
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                    > > > To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
                    > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                    > Badge Day at
                    > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                    > e-mail
                    > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                    > in one
                    > > day with
                    > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                    > will
                    > > noew be
                    > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                    > > >
                    > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                    > > year we'll
                    > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                    > > >
                    > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                    > > anyone could
                    > > > run such an event in their area.
                    > > >
                    > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                    > > event for
                    > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                    > > It's a good
                    > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                    > > calendar and
                    > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                    > > >
                    > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                    > > > consideration.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73
                    > > >
                    > > > Gary, K2GW
                    > > > Radio MB Counselor
                    > > > CNJ Council
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > ________________________________________________________________________
                    > > >
                    > > > Message: 3
                    > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
                    > > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                    > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > >
                    > > > Gary, et al,
                    > > >
                    > > > I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project,
                    > > especially with the
                    > > > success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned, many
                    > > > organizations
                    > > > conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with
                    > JOTA. In
                    > > > Texas, we
                    > > > have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp
                    > between
                    > > > Christmas and
                    > > > New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're
                    > conducting Radio
                    > > > Badge classes
                    > > > at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During
                    > March, the
                    > > > Dallas area
                    > > > has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in
                    > which the
                    > > > Radio Merit
                    > > > Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our
                    > Council
                    > > > conducts what
                    > > > used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit
                    > Badge
                    > > U --
                    > > > in which
                    > > > the Radio MB is taught.
                    > > >
                    > > > I think different areas of the US have different
                    > opportunities,
                    > > > needs and
                    > > > school schedules. For example, many of our scouts may not
                    > > be back
                    > > > from
                    > > > winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first
                    > Saturday.
                    > > > January is a
                    > > > difficult month to forecast the weather in various
                    > parts of the
                    > > > country,
                    > > > especially for travel to and from the MB class.
                    > > >
                    > > > Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their younger
                    > > kids on
                    > > > the air
                    > > > to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather that
                    > > we not mix
                    > > > scouting activities with an easy going program to get kids
                    > > on the
                    > > > air.
                    > > >
                    > > > My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB
                    > clinic or class
                    > > > up to local
                    > > > folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a
                    > > "national
                    > > > Radio MB
                    > > > day" -- it's JOTA.
                    > > >
                    > > > Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do
                    > have a
                    > > patch
                    > > > program.
                    > > > Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is
                    > somewhat
                    > > > national and
                    > > > is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The
                    > requirements are
                    > > > very similar
                    > > > (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in
                    > > addition
                    > > > to JOTA,
                    > > > have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.
                    > It's
                    > > called
                    > > > Guides On
                    > > > The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of
                    > > February. Radio
                    > > > Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need
                    > to be
                    > > > promoting a
                    > > > program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are
                    > often
                    > > left
                    > > > out of
                    > > > this high tech adventure.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                    > > > Garland, TX
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: Gary Wilson
                    > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
                    > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                    > Badge
                    > > Day at
                    > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                    > e-mail
                    > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge in
                    > > one day
                    > > > with
                    > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                    > > will noew be
                    > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                    > > >
                    > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                    > > year we'll
                    > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                    > > >
                    > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                    > Radio,
                    > > anyone
                    > > > could
                    > > > run such an event in their area.
                    > > >
                    > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a
                    > national
                    > > event for
                    > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next
                    > year.
                    > > It's a
                    > > > good
                    > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                    > > calendar
                    > > > and
                    > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                    > > >
                    > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                    > > > consideration.
                    > > >
                    > > > 73
                    > > >
                    > > > Gary, K2GW
                    > > > Radio MB Counselor
                    > > > CNJ Council
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk
                    >
                    > Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them
                    > subscibe to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth
                    >
                    > Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
                    > http://www.ontargetbsa.org/
                    >
                    > Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
                    > http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml
                    >
                    > Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/
                    >
                    > ScoutRadio start page:
                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member
                    > email addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)
                    >
                    > Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                    > Unsubscribe: ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
                    > List owner: ScoutRadio-owner@yahoogroups.com
                    >
                    > SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > SPONSORED LINKS
                    > Date idea
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Date+idea&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=mCQpztFx1dCxCxZJgKqgvg>
                    > Ideas
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Ideas&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=sFDpcZH02g8_D_cunMHWvQ>
                    > Radio
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                    >
                    > Scouter
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Scouter&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=A3BwF8viSzYYm_WfU68EiA>
                    > Outdoors
                    > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Outdoors&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=tt2xr8fjVGG_qGcU2eL1fg>
                    >
                    >
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                    >
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                  • Gary Wilson
                    Hey Guys! When responding to message in this group (especially a Digest!) please take time to cut the previous message in your reply down to something
                    Message 9 of 12 , Jan 16, 2006
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                      Hey Guys!

                      When responding to message in this group (especially a Digest!) please
                      take time to cut the previous message in your reply down to something
                      meaningful and relavent or delete it entirely.

                      Some the previous replies in this thread had a half dozen previous
                      messages attached! If folks want to go back, they can always go to
                      the website and read the thrtead there.

                      Thanks,

                      Gary, K2GW
                    • J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
                      Alan, Have you gotten time to upload either the long or short form of this PPT yet? I would like both if possible. 73! YIS, Gordon Beattie, W2TTT 201.314.6964
                      Message 10 of 12 , Feb 18, 2006
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                        Alan,

                        Have you gotten time to upload either the long or short form of this PPT yet?

                        I would like both if possible.

                        73!

                        YIS,

                        Gordon Beattie, W2TTT

                        201.314.6964

                         

                         


                        From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Allan R. Batteiger
                        Sent: Saturday, 14 January, 2006 22:59
                        To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

                         

                        Frank
                           Tony and I are cleaning up the PPT presentations a bit.   We used
                        several videos from the net, "the ARRL Walter Cronkite",  Jay Leno "txt
                        vs Morse", a Electrical safety video,  Along with the NYT course
                        outline.   We mostly followed the NYT instructor guide along with some
                        power points that we modified.  I can upload all of this but it will
                        take over 100mb.   The PPT are about 14mb.

                        Allan R. Batteiger
                        WB5QNG

                        Frank Krizan wrote:

                        > Allan,

                        > Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group?

                        > ... and again, great work.

                        > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                        > Garland , TX

                        >
                        >     ----- Original Message -----
                        >     *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                        >     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com >
                        >     *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:51 AM
                        >     *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                        >
                        >     Frank
                        >         I did not place an age limit on the scouts.   The announcement
                        >     about
                        >     the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader
                        >     list. 
                        >     The class had 11 people in it,  4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we
                        >     had a
                        >     good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the
                        >     class.
                        >     More classes are currently being scheduled.  I have also had
                        >     request for
                        >     General and Extra classes.   These are being looked into for possible
                        >     scheduling in the future.
                        >
                        >     Allan Batteiger
                        >     WB5QNG
                        >
                        >     Frank Krizan wrote:
                        >
                        >     > Hi Allan,
                        >     >
                        >     > Fantastic.  I like the idea of a two day course.  It's difficult to
                        >     > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and
                        >     the
                        >     > 'fumes') distract them.  Something like a weekend course, maybe
                        >     at a
                        >     > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                        >     > 'fumes', and voila -- learning.  I think there needs to be followup
                        >     > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                        >     > questions prompted by the course.
                        >     >
                        >     > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the
                        >     course?  My
                        >     > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2
                        >     almost
                        >     > guarantees a very high pass rate.
                        >     >
                        >     > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
                        >     >
                        >     > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                        >     > Garland , TX
                        >     >
                        >    

                        >     ----- Original Message -----

                        >    
                        >     *From:* Allan R. Batteiger
                        <mailto:arb@...>

                        >    
                        >     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

                        >     <mailto: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com >
                        >    
                        >     *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM

                        >    
                        >     *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

                        >     >
                        >    
                        >     Frank

                        >    
                        >       Just to add to the discussion, for the
                        last couple of

                        >     years I have
                        >    
                        >     taught Radio
                        MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA

                        >     ( RB
                        >    
                        >     in the

                        >    
                        >     morning, then take the scouts out and get them on
                        the air)

                        >     and one of
                        >    
                        >     the Councils Merit Universities.   After
                        this last year (

                        >     2005 ) I
                        >    
                        >     had a

                        >    
                        >     number of scouts interested in Amateur
                        Radio.  Over the

                        >     Christmas
                        >    
                        >     Break

                        >    
                        >     Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech
                        Class,  we

                        >     had 4
                        >    
                        >     scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. 
                        All but 2 of

                        >     the scouts
                        >    
                        >     passed on the first try.  We had a 70% pass
                        rate of the class.

                        >    
                        >     Currently we are planning to schedule further
                        classes around

                        >     Ham-Com,
                        >    
                        >     Council
                        Merit Badge Universities , and JOTA again this

                        >     year.   The
                        >    
                        >     intention is to make
                        w:st="on">Radio MB widely available and provide a NCT

                        >    
                        >     class

                        >    
                        >     with VE Test session immediately available.

                        >     >
                        >    
                        >     Allan R. Batteiger

                        >    
                        >     WB5QNG

                        >     >
                        >    
                        >     Frank Krizan wrote:

                        >     >
                        >    
                        >     > Hi Bill, et al,

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     > This is a good discussion.  I like your
                        concept of

                        >    
                        >     events/activities

                        >    
                        >     > that culminate with JOTA.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     > I would offer an alternative/modification of
                        your proposal by

                        >    
                        >     seeking

                        >    
                        >     > ARRL support for various summertime
                        activities for

                        >     scouting that
                        >    
                        >     > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or
                        other entry

                        >     level)
                        >    
                        >     > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or
                        a week or two

                        >     week day
                        >    
                        >     > camp program), operating
                        events/challenges/contests,

                        >     inexpensive
                        >    
                        >     self

                        >    
                        >     > study courses for scouts via the internet
                        (let's face it

                        >     -- $99
                        >    
                        >     can be

                        >    
                        >     > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to
                        take the

                        >     online ARRL
                        >    
                        >     > Tech course), kit building, radio operation
                        on the trail

                        >     (or at
                        >    
                        >     camp),

                        >    
                        >     > and our imaginations can dream up more. 
                        This would be a

                        >     list of
                        >    
                        >     > activities/events that are "pick and
                        choose" for local

                        >     councils,
                        >    
                        >     > clubs, individuals -- not specific
                        dates.  On the other hand,

                        >    
                        >     > operating events might be scheduled for
                        certain weekends -- or

                        >    
                        >     > scouting units might be encouraged to
                        participate in certain

                        >    
                        >     operating

                        >    
                        >     > events/contests as an entity, not just part
                        of a bigger

                        >     club.  For
                        >    
                        >     > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX
                        (K5BSA) has

                        >     its own
                        >    
                        >     Field

                        >    
                        >     > Day.  Operators are encouraged to try
                        different bands at

                        >     different
                        >    
                        >     > times of the day to experience propagation
                        differences and

                        >    
                        >     scores are

                        >    
                        >     > for personal improvement, not trying to beat
                        another unit,

                        >     etc.
                        >    
                        >     It's

                        >    
                        >     > personal improvement ... personal
                        challenges.   And ... of

                        >    
                        >     course ...

                        >    
                        >     > lots of other activities for non-operating
                        times ... and FOOD.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     > I certainly like the idea of getting newly
                        licensed scouts on

                        >    
                        >     the air

                        >    
                        >     > for JOTA.  JOTA could also become a
                        reunion of sorts from year

                        >     >     to year
                        >    
                        >     > for scouts who take part in summertime
                        activities.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the
                        ARRL ad hoc

                        >     committee on
                        >    
                        >     > scouting is doing?  Any postings of
                        their current

                        >     thinking?  Any
                        >    
                        >     > readers contributing to their deliberation?

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     > 73, Frank KR1ZAN

                        >    
                        >     > Garland ,
                        TX

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     ----- Original
                        Message -----

                        >    
                        >     >     *From:* N2COP
                        <mailto:n2cop@...>

                        >    
                        >     >     *To:*
                        w:st="on">ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

                        >    
                        >     <mailto: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com >

                        >    
                        >     >     *Sent:* Thursday,
                        January 12, 2006 11:34 AM

                        >    
                        >     >     *Subject:* RE:
                        [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Dear Gary et al,

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     I agree to a degree
                        with Frank that January may not be the

                        >    
                        >     optimal

                        >    
                        >     >     time for

                        >    
                        >     >     a National Radio
                        Merit Badge Day, and that local

                        >     councils should
                        >    
                        >     >     have some

                        >    
                        >     >     scheduling
                        flexibility.  That said, I think earning

                        >     the badge
                        >    
                        >     >     needs to be

                        >    
                        >     >     elevated across all
                        councils; specifically, councils

                        >     should
                        >    
                        >     >     encourage Radio

                        >    
                        >     >     Merit Badge classes
                        be held concurrently with JOTA

                        >     activities.
                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     In addition, I'd like
                        to see a 4 event calendar that could

                        >    
                        >     >     culminate with

                        >    
                        >     >     JOTA weekend. 
                        These events would be: 1) Radio Merit Badge

                        >    
                        >     classes

                        >    
                        >     >     coinciding with Kids
                        Day in early June, 2) Scouts are

                        >     invited to
                        >    
                        >     >     Field Day

                        >    
                        >     >     sites in late June
                        for designated "Scout Hours", 3)

                        >     scouts go on
                        >    
                        >     >     to earn

                        >    
                        >     >     their Tech license
                        (or perhaps General in the possible

                        >     code-free
                        >    
                        >     >     HF license

                        >    
                        >     >     future) in
                        July/August during summer break, 4) newly

                        >     licensed
                        >    
                        >     >     Scouts take

                        >    
                        >     >     the helm during JOTA
                        in October.  In other words, BSA and

                        >    
                        >     ARRL would

                        >    
                        >     >     dedicate June 1 to
                        Third Week in October as a "Radio

                        >     Active"
                        >    
                        >     time.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Gary 's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc

                        >     Committee on
                        >    
                        >     >     Scouting

                        >    
                        >     >     should be
                        addressing.  Their findings and recommendations

                        >    
                        >     are due this

                        >    
                        >     >     coming July.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     73,

                        >    
                        >     >     Bill Morine, N2COP

                        >    
                        >     >     JOTA Chairman, Cape
                        Fear Council #425, 1994 - present

                        >    
                        >     >     K2BSA Staff Member
                        and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001

                        >    
                        >     and 2005

                        >    
                        >     >     National

                        >    
                        >     >     Jamborees

                        >    
                        >     >     Member - ARRL
                        National Public Relations Committee

                        >    
                        >     >     ARRL Public
                        Information Coordinator - North Carolina

                        >     Section
                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     -----Original
                        Message-----

                        >    
                        >     >     From:
                        w:st="on">ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

                        >    
                        >     [mailto: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com ]

                        >    
                        >     >     Sent: Thursday,
                        January 12, 2006 11:24 AM

                        >    
                        >     >     To:
                        w:st="on">ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

                        >    
                        >     >     Subject: [ScoutRadio]
                        Digest Number 669

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     There are 3 messages
                        in this issue.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Topics in this
                        digest:

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >           1. Boy Scout
                        Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >               
                        From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>

                        >    
                        >     >           2. Re: Boy
                        Scout Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >               
                        From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>

                        >    
                        >     >           3. Re: Boy
                        Scout Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >               
                        From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >

                        >     >    
                        >     Message: 1     

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>

                        >    
                        >     >     Subject: Boy Scout
                        Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     We just completed our
                        second annual Boy Scout Merit

                        >     Badge Day at
                        >    
                        >     >     Sarnoff Library in
                        w:st="on"> Princeton NJ .  With only a single

                        >     e-mail
                        >    
                        >     >     announcement, we had
                        29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge

                        >     in one
                        >    
                        >     day with

                        >    
                        >     >     4 leaders and 19 hams
                        assisting.  Many of those Scouts

                        >     will
                        >    
                        >     noew be

                        >    
                        >     >     starting a Tech
                        course next week.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Last year with lots
                        of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next

                        >    
                        >     year we'll

                        >     >    
                        >     aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     With all of the
                        PowerPoint materials here in Scout

                        >     Radio, anyone
                        >    
                        >     >     could

                        >    
                        >     >     run such an event in
                        their area.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     It dawned on me that
                        perhaps this could become a national

                        >    
                        >     event for

                        >    
                        >     >     the first Saturday
                        after New Years in January next year.

                        >    
                        >     It's a good

                        >    
                        >     >     weekend for an indoor
                        event in the typical Scout Troops

                        >    
                        >     calendar and

                        >    
                        >     >     complements their
                        exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Comments appreciated
                        here before I submit it to ARRL for

                        >    
                        >     >     consideration.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     73

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Gary, K2GW

                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Radio MB Counselor

                        >    
                        >     >     CNJ Council

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Message:
                        2     

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>

                        >    
                        >     >     Subject: Re: Boy
                        Scout Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     In this area, we try
                        to do the same thing for JOTA,

                        >     annually in
                        >    
                        >     >     October.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     John

                        >    
                        >     >     N7MFQ

                        >    
                        >     >     ----- Original
                        Message -----

                        >    
                        >     >     From: "Gary
                        Wilson" <k2gw@...>

                        >    
                        >     >     To: <
                        w:st="on">ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com >

                        >    
                        >     >     Sent: Wednesday,
                        January 11, 2006 2:32 PM

                        >    
                        >     >     Subject: [ScoutRadio]
                        Boy Scout Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     We just completed our
                        second annual Boy Scout Merit

                        >     Badge Day at
                        >    
                        >     >     Sarnoff Library in
                        w:st="on"> Princeton NJ .  With only a single

                        >     e-mail
                        >    
                        >     >     announcement, we had
                        29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge

                        >     in one
                        >    
                        >     day with

                        >    
                        >     >     4 leaders and 19 hams
                        assisting.  Many of those Scouts

                        >     will
                        >    
                        >     noew be

                        >    
                        >     >     starting a Tech
                        course next week.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Last year with lots
                        of publicity we had 63 Scouts.  Next

                        >    
                        >     year we'll

                        >    
                        >     >     aim for the middle by
                        doing two e-mails.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     With all of the
                        PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,

                        >    
                        >     anyone could

                        >    
                        >     >     run such an event in
                        their area.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     It dawned on me that
                        perhaps this could become a national

                        >    
                        >     event for

                        >    
                        >     >     the first Saturday after
                        New Years in January next year.

                        >    
                        >     It's a good

                        >    
                        >     >     weekend for an indoor
                        event in the typical Scout Troops

                        >    
                        >     calendar and

                        >    
                        >     >     complements their
                        exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Comments appreciated
                        here before I submit it to ARRL for

                        >    
                        >     >     consideration.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     73

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Gary, K2GW

                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Radio MB Counselor

                        >    
                        >     >     CNJ Council

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >     >    
                        >

                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >  

                        >    
                        >   

                        >     ________________________________________________________________________
                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Message:
                        3     

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600

                        >    
                        >     >       
                        From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>

                        >    
                        >     >     Subject: Re: Boy
                        Scout Merit Badge Day

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Gary , et al,

                        >     >    
                        >

                        >    
                        >     >     I can appreciate your
                        enthusiasm for this project,

                        >    
                        >     especially with the

                        >    
                        >     >     success you've
                        enjoyed.  As another poster mentioned, many

                        >    
                        >     >     organizations

                        >    
                        >     >     conduct Radio Merit
                        Badge classes in conjunction with

                        >     JOTA.  In
                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Texas , we

                        >    
                        >     >     have a number of
                        scout camps that conduct Winter Camp

                        >     between
                        >    
                        >     >     Christmas and

                        >    
                        >     >     New Year, and several
                        teach Radio MB .  We're

                        >     conducting Radio
                        >    
                        >     >     Badge classes

                        >    
                        >     >     at some summer camps
                        and at HamCom in June.  During

                        >     March, the
                        >    
                        >     >    
                        w:st="on">Dallas area

                        >    
                        >     >     has a number of
                        "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in

                        >     which the
                        >    
                        >     >     Radio Merit

                        >    
                        >     >     Badge is also
                        taught.  During the summer months, our

                        >     Council
                        >    
                        >     >     conducts what

                        >    
                        >     >     used to be called
                        Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit

                        >     Badge
                        >    
                        >     U --

                        >    
                        >     >     in which

                        >    
                        >     >     the Radio MB is
                        taught.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     I think different
                        areas of the US have different

                        >     opportunities,
                        >    
                        >     >     needs and

                        >    
                        >     >     school
                        schedules.  For example, many of our scouts may not

                        >    
                        >     be back

                        >    
                        >     >     from

                        >    
                        >     >     winter camp,
                        Christmas vacations, etc. for the first

                        >     Saturday.
                        >    
                        >     >     January is a

                        >    
                        >     >     difficult month to
                        forecast the weather in various

                        >     parts of the
                        >    
                        >     >     country,

                        >    
                        >     >     especially for travel
                        to and from the MB class.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     Kid's Day is a great
                        day for families to get their younger

                        >    
                        >     kids on

                        >    
                        >     >     the air

                        >    
                        >     >     to talk with some
                        other younger kids.  I would rather that

                        >    
                        >     we not mix

                        >    
                        >     >     scouting activities
                        with an easy going program to get kids

                        >    
                        >     on the

                        >    
                        >     >     air.

                        >    
                        >     >

                        >    
                        >     >     My suggestion is to
                        leave the date of a Radio MB

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                      • Allan R. Batteiger
                        Gordon I have not forgotten, Tony and I are redoing the slides a bit. I should have then ready for upload shortly, since I have a class to teach starting
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                          Gordon
                          I have not forgotten, Tony and I are redoing the slides a bit. I
                          should have then ready for upload shortly, since I have a class to teach
                          starting next weekend!
                          I am also going to put the files on a www site so they are generally
                          available.

                          Allan R. Batteiger
                          WB5QNG

                          J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote:
                          >
                          > Alan,
                          >
                          > Have you gotten time to upload either the long or short form of this
                          > PPT yet?
                          >
                          > I would like both if possible.
                          >
                          > 73!
                          >
                          > YIS,
                          >
                          > Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
                          >
                          > 201.314.6964
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          >
                          > *From:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                          > *On Behalf Of *Allan R. Batteiger
                          > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 January, 2006 22:59
                          > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Frank
                          > Tony and I are cleaning up the PPT presentations a bit. We used
                          > several videos from the net, "the ARRL Walter Cronkite", Jay Leno "txt
                          > vs Morse", a Electrical safety video, Along with the NYT course
                          > outline. We mostly followed the NYT instructor guide along with some
                          > power points that we modified. I can upload all of this but it will
                          > take over 100mb. The PPT are about 14mb.
                          >
                          > Allan R. Batteiger
                          > WB5QNG
                          >
                          > Frank Krizan wrote:
                          >
                          > > Allan,
                          > >
                          > > Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group?
                          > >
                          > > ... and again, great work.
                          > >
                          > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                          > > Garland, TX
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                          > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                          > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:51 AM
                          > > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                          > >
                          > > Frank
                          > > I did not place an age limit on the scouts. The announcement
                          > > about
                          > > the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader
                          > > list.
                          > > The class had 11 people in it, 4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we
                          > > had a
                          > > good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the
                          > > class.
                          > > More classes are currently being scheduled. I have also had
                          > > request for
                          > > General and Extra classes. These are being looked into for possible
                          > > scheduling in the future.
                          > >
                          > > Allan Batteiger
                          > > WB5QNG
                          > >
                          > > Frank Krizan wrote:
                          > >
                          > > > Hi Allan,
                          > > >
                          > > > Fantastic. I like the idea of a two day course. It's difficult to
                          > > > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and
                          > > the
                          > > > 'fumes') distract them. Something like a weekend course, maybe
                          > > at a
                          > > > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                          > > > 'fumes', and voila -- learning. I think there needs to be followup
                          > > > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                          > > > questions prompted by the course.
                          > > >
                          > > > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the
                          > > course? My
                          > > > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2
                          > > almost
                          > > > guarantees a very high pass rate.
                          > > >
                          > > > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
                          > > >
                          > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                          > > > Garland, TX
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                          > > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
                          > > > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                          > > >
                          > > > Frank
                          > > > Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of
                          > > years I have
                          > > > taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA
                          > > ( RB
                          > > > in the
                          > > > morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air)
                          > > and one of
                          > > > the Councils Merit Universities. After this last year (
                          > > 2005 ) I
                          > > > had a
                          > > > number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio. Over the
                          > > Christmas
                          > > > Break
                          > > > Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class, we
                          > > had 4
                          > > > scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. All but 2 of
                          > > the scouts
                          > > > passed on the first try. We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
                          > > > Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around
                          > > Ham-Com,
                          > > > Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this
                          > > year. The
                          > > > intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide
                          > a NCT
                          > > > class
                          > > > with VE Test session immediately available.
                          > > >
                          > > > Allan R. Batteiger
                          > > > WB5QNG
                          > > >
                          > > > Frank Krizan wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > > Hi Bill, et al,
                          > > > >
                          > > > > This is a good discussion. I like your concept of
                          > > > events/activities
                          > > > > that culminate with JOTA.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by
                          > > > seeking
                          > > > > ARRL support for various summertime activities for
                          > > scouting that
                          > > > > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry
                          > > level)
                          > > > > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two
                          > > week day
                          > > > > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests,
                          > > inexpensive
                          > > > self
                          > > > > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it
                          > > -- $99
                          > > > can be
                          > > > > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the
                          > > online ARRL
                          > > > > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail
                          > > (or at
                          > > > camp),
                          > > > > and our imaginations can dream up more. This would be a
                          > > list of
                          > > > > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local
                          > > councils,
                          > > > > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates. On the other hand,
                          > > > > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends
                          > -- or
                          > > > > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain
                          > > > operating
                          > > > > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger
                          > > club. For
                          > > > > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has
                          > > its own
                          > > > Field
                          > > > > Day. Operators are encouraged to try different bands at
                          > > different
                          > > > > times of the day to experience propagation differences and
                          > > > scores are
                          > > > > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit,
                          > > etc.
                          > > > It's
                          > > > > personal improvement ... personal challenges. And ... of
                          > > > course ...
                          > > > > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and
                          > FOOD.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on
                          > > > the air
                          > > > > for JOTA. JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from
                          > year
                          > > > to year
                          > > > > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc
                          > > committee on
                          > > > > scouting is doing? Any postings of their current
                          > > thinking? Any
                          > > > > readers contributing to their deliberation?
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                          > > > > Garland, TX
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
                          > > > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
                          > > > > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Dear Gary et al,
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not
                          > be the
                          > > > optimal
                          > > > > time for
                          > > > > a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local
                          > > councils should
                          > > > > have some
                          > > > > scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning
                          > > the badge
                          > > > > needs to be
                          > > > > elevated across all councils; specifically, councils
                          > > should
                          > > > > encourage Radio
                          > > > > Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA
                          > > activities.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that
                          > could
                          > > > > culminate with
                          > > > > JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit
                          > Badge
                          > > > classes
                          > > > > coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are
                          > > invited to
                          > > > > Field Day
                          > > > > sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3)
                          > > scouts go on
                          > > > > to earn
                          > > > > their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible
                          > > code-free
                          > > > > HF license
                          > > > > future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly
                          > > licensed
                          > > > > Scouts take
                          > > > > the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and
                          > > > ARRL would
                          > > > > dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio
                          > > Active"
                          > > > time.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc
                          > > Committee on
                          > > > > Scouting
                          > > > > should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations
                          > > > are due this
                          > > > > coming July.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73,
                          > > > > Bill Morine, N2COP
                          > > > > JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
                          > > > > K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001
                          > > > and 2005
                          > > > > National
                          > > > > Jamborees
                          > > > > Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
                          > > > > ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina
                          > > Section
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > -----Original Message-----
                          > > > > From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                          > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
                          > > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                          > > > >
                          > > > > There are 3 messages in this issue.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Topics in this digest:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                          > > > > 2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                          > > > > 3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > > From: "Frank Krizan"
                          > <frank.krizan@...>
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Message: 1
                          > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
                          > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                          > > > > Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > >
                          > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                          > > Badge Day at
                          > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                          > > e-mail
                          > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                          > > in one
                          > > > day with
                          > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                          > > will
                          > > > noew be
                          > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                          > > > year we'll
                          > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                          > > Radio, anyone
                          > > > > could
                          > > > > run such an event in their area.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                          > > > event for
                          > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                          > > > It's a good
                          > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                          > > > calendar and
                          > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                          > > > > consideration.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Gary, K2GW
                          > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                          > > > > CNJ Council
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Message: 2
                          > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
                          > > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                          > > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > >
                          > > > > In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA,
                          > > annually in
                          > > > > October.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > John
                          > > > > N7MFQ
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                          > > > > To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
                          > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                          > > Badge Day at
                          > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                          > > e-mail
                          > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                          > > in one
                          > > > day with
                          > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                          > > will
                          > > > noew be
                          > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                          > > > year we'll
                          > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                          > > > anyone could
                          > > > > run such an event in their area.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                          > > > event for
                          > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                          > > > It's a good
                          > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                          > > > calendar and
                          > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                          > > > > consideration.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Gary, K2GW
                          > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                          > > > > CNJ Council
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > ________________________________________________________________________
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Message: 3
                          > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
                          > > > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                          > > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Gary, et al,
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project,
                          > > > especially with the
                          > > > > success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned,
                          > many
                          > > > > organizations
                          > > > > conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with
                          > > JOTA. In
                          > > > > Texas, we
                          > > > > have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp
                          > > between
                          > > > > Christmas and
                          > > > > New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're
                          > > conducting Radio
                          > > > > Badge classes
                          > > > > at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During
                          > > March, the
                          > > > > Dallas area
                          > > > > has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in
                          > > which the
                          > > > > Radio Merit
                          > > > > Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our
                          > > Council
                          > > > > conducts what
                          > > > > used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit
                          > > Badge
                          > > > U --
                          > > > > in which
                          > > > > the Radio MB is taught.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I think different areas of the US have different
                          > > opportunities,
                          > > > > needs and
                          > > > > school schedules. For example, many of our scouts
                          > may not
                          > > > be back
                          > > > > from
                          > > > > winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first
                          > > Saturday.
                          > > > > January is a
                          > > > > difficult month to forecast the weather in various
                          > > parts of the
                          > > > > country,
                          > > > > especially for travel to and from the MB class.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their
                          > younger
                          > > > kids on
                          > > > > the air
                          > > > > to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather
                          > that
                          > > > we not mix
                          > > > > scouting activities with an easy going program to get
                          > kids
                          > > > on the
                          > > > > air.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB
                          > > clinic or class
                          > > > > up to local
                          > > > > folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a
                          > > > "national
                          > > > > Radio MB
                          > > > > day" -- it's JOTA.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do
                          > > have a
                          > > > patch
                          > > > > program.
                          > > > > Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is
                          > > somewhat
                          > > > > national and
                          > > > > is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The
                          > > requirements are
                          > > > > very similar
                          > > > > (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in
                          > > > addition
                          > > > > to JOTA,
                          > > > > have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.
                          > > It's
                          > > > called
                          > > > > Guides On
                          > > > > The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of
                          > > > February. Radio
                          > > > > Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need
                          > > to be
                          > > > > promoting a
                          > > > > program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are
                          > > often
                          > > > left
                          > > > > out of
                          > > > > this high tech adventure.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                          > > > > Garland, TX
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: Gary Wilson
                          > > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
                          > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                          > > Badge
                          > > > Day at
                          > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                          > > e-mail
                          > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit
                          > Badge in
                          > > > one day
                          > > > > with
                          > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                          > > > will noew be
                          > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.
                          > Next
                          > > > year we'll
                          > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                          > > Radio,
                          > > > anyone
                          > > > > could
                          > > > > run such an event in their area.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a
                          > > national
                          > > > event for
                          > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next
                          > > year.
                          > > > It's a
                          > > > > good
                          > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                          > > > calendar
                          > > > > and
                          > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to
                          > ARRL for
                          > > > > consideration.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 73
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Gary, K2GW
                          > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                          > > > > CNJ Council
                          > > > >
                          >
                        • Allan R. Batteiger
                          Gordon I have uploaded my latest version of the files to ftp://scouts:$cout$@69.201.182.47/chris/jp_arrl/ . They are in openoffice format. I do not have
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                            Gordon
                            I have uploaded my latest version of the files to
                            ftp://scouts:$cout$@69.201.182.47/chris/jp_arrl/ . They are in
                            openoffice format. I do not have a current copy of MS Office to test
                            the MS PPT export function. www.openoffice.org is free. Let me know
                            if you have any problems.

                            Allan R. Batteiger
                            WB5QNG

                            J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote:
                            >
                            > Alan,
                            >
                            > Have you gotten time to upload either the long or short form of this
                            > PPT yet?
                            >
                            > I would like both if possible.
                            >
                            > 73!
                            >
                            > YIS,
                            >
                            > Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
                            >
                            > 201.314.6964
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            >
                            > *From:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                            > *On Behalf Of *Allan R. Batteiger
                            > *Sent:* Saturday, 14 January, 2006 22:59
                            > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Frank
                            > Tony and I are cleaning up the PPT presentations a bit. We used
                            > several videos from the net, "the ARRL Walter Cronkite", Jay Leno "txt
                            > vs Morse", a Electrical safety video, Along with the NYT course
                            > outline. We mostly followed the NYT instructor guide along with some
                            > power points that we modified. I can upload all of this but it will
                            > take over 100mb. The PPT are about 14mb.
                            >
                            > Allan R. Batteiger
                            > WB5QNG
                            >
                            > Frank Krizan wrote:
                            >
                            > > Allan,
                            > >
                            > > Do you have a syllabus/outline that you could share with the Group?
                            > >
                            > > ... and again, great work.
                            > >
                            > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                            > > Garland, TX
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                            > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                            > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:51 AM
                            > > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                            > >
                            > > Frank
                            > > I did not place an age limit on the scouts. The announcement
                            > > about
                            > > the class was sent over the Boyscout GreatPlainsBSA email leader
                            > > list.
                            > > The class had 11 people in it, 4 were scouts, 6 were under 25, we
                            > > had a
                            > > good mix of scouts, ladies, Homeland Security, and FD attend the
                            > > class.
                            > > More classes are currently being scheduled. I have also had
                            > > request for
                            > > General and Extra classes. These are being looked into for possible
                            > > scheduling in the future.
                            > >
                            > > Allan Batteiger
                            > > WB5QNG
                            > >
                            > > Frank Krizan wrote:
                            > >
                            > > > Hi Allan,
                            > > >
                            > > > Fantastic. I like the idea of a two day course. It's difficult to
                            > > > keep youth interested over a multi-week course, plus school (and
                            > > the
                            > > > 'fumes') distract them. Something like a weekend course, maybe
                            > > at a
                            > > > camp with A/C facilities, keeps them together, no TV, computers,
                            > > > 'fumes', and voila -- learning. I think there needs to be followup
                            > > > for sometime after the course to fill in the blanks and answer
                            > > > questions prompted by the course.
                            > > >
                            > > > Did you limit the age of the scouts who could attend the
                            > > course? My
                            > > > experience has shown that using a high adventure age of 13-1/2
                            > > almost
                            > > > guarantees a very high pass rate.
                            > > >
                            > > > We need to hear of more successes such as yours on this group.
                            > > >
                            > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                            > > > Garland, TX
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > *From:* Allan R. Batteiger <mailto:arb@...>
                            > > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2006 8:37 PM
                            > > > *Subject:* Re: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                            > > >
                            > > > Frank
                            > > > Just to add to the discussion, for the last couple of
                            > > years I have
                            > > > taught Radio MB just before JOTA or in conjunction with JOTA
                            > > ( RB
                            > > > in the
                            > > > morning, then take the scouts out and get them on the air)
                            > > and one of
                            > > > the Councils Merit Universities. After this last year (
                            > > 2005 ) I
                            > > > had a
                            > > > number of scouts interested in Amateur Radio. Over the
                            > > Christmas
                            > > > Break
                            > > > Tony (W5ADC) and I conducted a 2 day No Code Tech Class, we
                            > > had 4
                            > > > scouts and 2 other youths take the classes. All but 2 of
                            > > the scouts
                            > > > passed on the first try. We had a 70% pass rate of the class.
                            > > > Currently we are planning to schedule further classes around
                            > > Ham-Com,
                            > > > Council Merit Badge Universities, and JOTA again this
                            > > year. The
                            > > > intention is to make Radio MB widely available and provide
                            > a NCT
                            > > > class
                            > > > with VE Test session immediately available.
                            > > >
                            > > > Allan R. Batteiger
                            > > > WB5QNG
                            > > >
                            > > > Frank Krizan wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > > Hi Bill, et al,
                            > > > >
                            > > > > This is a good discussion. I like your concept of
                            > > > events/activities
                            > > > > that culminate with JOTA.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I would offer an alternative/modification of your proposal by
                            > > > seeking
                            > > > > ARRL support for various summertime activities for
                            > > scouting that
                            > > > > include the Radio Merit Badge, Technician (or other entry
                            > > level)
                            > > > > licensing courses (perhaps at summer camp or a week or two
                            > > week day
                            > > > > camp program), operating events/challenges/contests,
                            > > inexpensive
                            > > > self
                            > > > > study courses for scouts via the internet (let's face it
                            > > -- $99
                            > > > can be
                            > > > > a big chunk of change for a scout in order to take the
                            > > online ARRL
                            > > > > Tech course), kit building, radio operation on the trail
                            > > (or at
                            > > > camp),
                            > > > > and our imaginations can dream up more. This would be a
                            > > list of
                            > > > > activities/events that are "pick and choose" for local
                            > > councils,
                            > > > > clubs, individuals -- not specific dates. On the other hand,
                            > > > > operating events might be scheduled for certain weekends
                            > -- or
                            > > > > scouting units might be encouraged to participate in certain
                            > > > operating
                            > > > > events/contests as an entity, not just part of a bigger
                            > > club. For
                            > > > > example, Venturing Crew 73 of Richardson, TX (K5BSA) has
                            > > its own
                            > > > Field
                            > > > > Day. Operators are encouraged to try different bands at
                            > > different
                            > > > > times of the day to experience propagation differences and
                            > > > scores are
                            > > > > for personal improvement, not trying to beat another unit,
                            > > etc.
                            > > > It's
                            > > > > personal improvement ... personal challenges. And ... of
                            > > > course ...
                            > > > > lots of other activities for non-operating times ... and
                            > FOOD.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I certainly like the idea of getting newly licensed scouts on
                            > > > the air
                            > > > > for JOTA. JOTA could also become a reunion of sorts from
                            > year
                            > > > to year
                            > > > > for scouts who take part in summertime activities.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > *** I'll ask again -- anyone know what the ARRL ad hoc
                            > > committee on
                            > > > > scouting is doing? Any postings of their current
                            > > thinking? Any
                            > > > > readers contributing to their deliberation?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                            > > > > Garland, TX
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > *From:* N2COP <mailto:n2cop@...>
                            > > > > *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:34 AM
                            > > > > *Subject:* RE: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Dear Gary et al,
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I agree to a degree with Frank that January may not
                            > be the
                            > > > optimal
                            > > > > time for
                            > > > > a National Radio Merit Badge Day, and that local
                            > > councils should
                            > > > > have some
                            > > > > scheduling flexibility. That said, I think earning
                            > > the badge
                            > > > > needs to be
                            > > > > elevated across all councils; specifically, councils
                            > > should
                            > > > > encourage Radio
                            > > > > Merit Badge classes be held concurrently with JOTA
                            > > activities.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > In addition, I'd like to see a 4 event calendar that
                            > could
                            > > > > culminate with
                            > > > > JOTA weekend. These events would be: 1) Radio Merit
                            > Badge
                            > > > classes
                            > > > > coinciding with Kids Day in early June, 2) Scouts are
                            > > invited to
                            > > > > Field Day
                            > > > > sites in late June for designated "Scout Hours", 3)
                            > > scouts go on
                            > > > > to earn
                            > > > > their Tech license (or perhaps General in the possible
                            > > code-free
                            > > > > HF license
                            > > > > future) in July/August during summer break, 4) newly
                            > > licensed
                            > > > > Scouts take
                            > > > > the helm during JOTA in October. In other words, BSA and
                            > > > ARRL would
                            > > > > dedicate June 1 to Third Week in October as a "Radio
                            > > Active"
                            > > > time.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Gary's suggestions are part of what ARRL's Ad Hoc
                            > > Committee on
                            > > > > Scouting
                            > > > > should be addressing. Their findings and recommendations
                            > > > are due this
                            > > > > coming July.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73,
                            > > > > Bill Morine, N2COP
                            > > > > JOTA Chairman, Cape Fear Council #425, 1994 - present
                            > > > > K2BSA Staff Member and Radio Merit Badge Instructor, 2001
                            > > > and 2005
                            > > > > National
                            > > > > Jamborees
                            > > > > Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
                            > > > > ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina
                            > > Section
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > -----Original Message-----
                            > > > > From: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > [mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com]
                            > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:24 AM
                            > > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Digest Number 669
                            > > > >
                            > > > > There are 3 messages in this issue.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Topics in this digest:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 1. Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                            > > > > 2. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                            > > > > 3. Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > > From: "Frank Krizan"
                            > <frank.krizan@...>
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Message: 1
                            > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:32:37 -0000
                            > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                            > > > > Subject: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > >
                            > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                            > > Badge Day at
                            > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                            > > e-mail
                            > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                            > > in one
                            > > > day with
                            > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                            > > will
                            > > > noew be
                            > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                            > > > year we'll
                            > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                            > > Radio, anyone
                            > > > > could
                            > > > > run such an event in their area.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                            > > > event for
                            > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                            > > > It's a good
                            > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                            > > > calendar and
                            > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                            > > > > consideration.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Gary, K2GW
                            > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                            > > > > CNJ Council
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Message: 2
                            > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:56:51 -0700
                            > > > > From: "John Brewer" <n7mfq@...>
                            > > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > >
                            > > > > In this area, we try to do the same thing for JOTA,
                            > > annually in
                            > > > > October.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > John
                            > > > > N7MFQ
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: "Gary Wilson" <k2gw@...>
                            > > > > To: <ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:32 PM
                            > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                            > > Badge Day at
                            > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                            > > e-mail
                            > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit Badge
                            > > in one
                            > > > day with
                            > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                            > > will
                            > > > noew be
                            > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts. Next
                            > > > year we'll
                            > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout Radio,
                            > > > anyone could
                            > > > > run such an event in their area.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a national
                            > > > event for
                            > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next year.
                            > > > It's a good
                            > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                            > > > calendar and
                            > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to ARRL for
                            > > > > consideration.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Gary, K2GW
                            > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                            > > > > CNJ Council
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > ________________________________________________________________________
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Message: 3
                            > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:04:17 -0600
                            > > > > From: "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
                            > > > > Subject: Re: Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Gary, et al,
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I can appreciate your enthusiasm for this project,
                            > > > especially with the
                            > > > > success you've enjoyed. As another poster mentioned,
                            > many
                            > > > > organizations
                            > > > > conduct Radio Merit Badge classes in conjunction with
                            > > JOTA. In
                            > > > > Texas, we
                            > > > > have a number of scout camps that conduct Winter Camp
                            > > between
                            > > > > Christmas and
                            > > > > New Year, and several teach Radio MB. We're
                            > > conducting Radio
                            > > > > Badge classes
                            > > > > at some summer camps and at HamCom in June. During
                            > > March, the
                            > > > > Dallas area
                            > > > > has a number of "Merit Badge Colleges/Universities" in
                            > > which the
                            > > > > Radio Merit
                            > > > > Badge is also taught. During the summer months, our
                            > > Council
                            > > > > conducts what
                            > > > > used to be called Merit Badge Camp -- now called Merit
                            > > Badge
                            > > > U --
                            > > > > in which
                            > > > > the Radio MB is taught.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I think different areas of the US have different
                            > > opportunities,
                            > > > > needs and
                            > > > > school schedules. For example, many of our scouts
                            > may not
                            > > > be back
                            > > > > from
                            > > > > winter camp, Christmas vacations, etc. for the first
                            > > Saturday.
                            > > > > January is a
                            > > > > difficult month to forecast the weather in various
                            > > parts of the
                            > > > > country,
                            > > > > especially for travel to and from the MB class.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Kid's Day is a great day for families to get their
                            > younger
                            > > > kids on
                            > > > > the air
                            > > > > to talk with some other younger kids. I would rather
                            > that
                            > > > we not mix
                            > > > > scouting activities with an easy going program to get
                            > kids
                            > > > on the
                            > > > > air.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > My suggestion is to leave the date of a Radio MB
                            > > clinic or class
                            > > > > up to local
                            > > > > folks. As suggested earlier, we somewhat already have a
                            > > > "national
                            > > > > Radio MB
                            > > > > day" -- it's JOTA.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Girl Scouting doesn't have merit badges, but, they do
                            > > have a
                            > > > patch
                            > > > > program.
                            > > > > Several councils have a Radio Patch. One of them is
                            > > somewhat
                            > > > > national and
                            > > > > is described on the ARRL Scouting pages. The
                            > > requirements are
                            > > > > very similar
                            > > > > (if not identical) to the BSA Radio MB. Girl Scouts, in
                            > > > addition
                            > > > > to JOTA,
                            > > > > have a weekend of their own adjacent to Thinking Day.
                            > > It's
                            > > > called
                            > > > > Guides On
                            > > > > The Air (GOTA) and is held the third full weekend of
                            > > > February. Radio
                            > > > > Scouting should be for girls as well as guys. We need
                            > > to be
                            > > > > promoting a
                            > > > > program for GSUSA for Ham Radio. Our young ladies are
                            > > often
                            > > > left
                            > > > > out of
                            > > > > this high tech adventure.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
                            > > > > Garland, TX
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: Gary Wilson
                            > > > > To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:32 PM
                            > > > > Subject: [ScoutRadio] Boy Scout Merit Badge Day
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > We just completed our second annual Boy Scout Merit
                            > > Badge
                            > > > Day at
                            > > > > Sarnoff Library in Princeton NJ. With only a single
                            > > e-mail
                            > > > > announcement, we had 29 Scouts earn Radio Merit
                            > Badge in
                            > > > one day
                            > > > > with
                            > > > > 4 leaders and 19 hams assisting. Many of those Scouts
                            > > > will noew be
                            > > > > starting a Tech course next week.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Last year with lots of publicity we had 63 Scouts.
                            > Next
                            > > > year we'll
                            > > > > aim for the middle by doing two e-mails.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > With all of the PowerPoint materials here in Scout
                            > > Radio,
                            > > > anyone
                            > > > > could
                            > > > > run such an event in their area.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > It dawned on me that perhaps this could become a
                            > > national
                            > > > event for
                            > > > > the first Saturday after New Years in January next
                            > > year.
                            > > > It's a
                            > > > > good
                            > > > > weekend for an indoor event in the typical Scout Troops
                            > > > calendar
                            > > > > and
                            > > > > complements their exisitng Kid's Day on Sunday.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Comments appreciated here before I submit it to
                            > ARRL for
                            > > > > consideration.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 73
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Gary, K2GW
                            > > > > Radio MB Counselor
                            > > > > CNJ Council
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
                            > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk
                            > >
                            > > Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them
                            > > subscibe to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth
                            > >
                            > > Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
                            > > http://www.ontargetbsa.org/
                            > >
                            > > Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
                            > > http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml
                            > >
                            > > Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/
                            > >
                            > > ScoutRadio start page:
                            > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio (Email archives - member
                            > > email addresses - change your subscription details, etc.)
                            > >
                            > > Post message: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
                            > > Unsubscribe: ScoutRadio-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
                            > > List owner: ScoutRadio-owner@yahoogroups.com
                            > >
                            > > SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
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                            > >
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                            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Date+idea&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=mCQpztFx1dCxCxZJgKqgvg>>
                            > > Ideas
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                            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Ideas&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=sFDpcZH02g8_D_cunMHWvQ>>
                            > > Radio
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                            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Radio&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=rXaAUpc4EgpHkbW-U4ExDQ
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                            > Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
                            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk
                            >
                            > Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them
                            > subscibe to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth
                            >
                            > Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
                            > http://www.ontargetbsa.org/
                            >
                            > Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
                            > http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml
                            >
                            > Visit the Adventure Radio Society: http://www.natworld.com/ars/
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                            > Scouter
                            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Scouter&w1=Date+idea&w2=Ideas&w3=Radio&w4=Scouter&w5=Outdoors&c=5&s=64&.sig=A3BwF8viSzYYm_WfU68EiA>
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