Pat wrote: ->
“...what do the people here think about a third section for over 23/26 year olds (Venturer/Senior Scouts, Rovers, 'older Rovers')?”
And; Errol wrote: ->
“...PERSONALLY, I think that everyone should 'keep their hands off' Rovering and allow it to (be) what B.-P. intended.”
That is exactly why we started the Rover Scouts Association.
In the old days... there was the TRAINING phase, where the young man (and now woman) learned the art and science of Rovering. From that point, they progressed to the SERVICE phase. There was no upper age limit... and if the older Rover never had the opportunity, he was allowed to go thru the training phase. Wouldn’t it be great if mainstream Scouting saw the genius in B.-P.’s original Rovering scheme and went back to the future?
Since this is such an important issue, I have shared it with cross-lists to get the word out.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of oldwolfgilwell
As far as I can tell, this is being pushed by ISGF as this will increase
their numbers and thus their income. I was recently involve3d with the Dutch
age group that has replaced those over 23; PlusSCOUTS they are called here,
and the object is to limit youth Scouting to 23 years-old and 'force' the
rest to become PlusScouts/whatever they are being called; Guilds, Scout
PERSONALLY, I think that everyone should 'keep their hands off' Rovering and
allow it mto what B.-P. intended.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Vic Branch Rover Council Chairman
There is a big push from WOSM at the moment to get the NSOs thinking
about the way they manage the program for their over 14 year olds. One
of these things is the push to reinvigorate and reinstate the Rover
program in many countries. Next year I (and two mates from New South
Wales) will be participating in an International Rover Workshop in the
Maldives sponsored by the Asia Pacific Region. This will be our major
chance to give a positive image of Rovering and help shape its rebirth
in the Region. Australia has been dedicated to the program consistently
since it was first envisaged, with many of our events and some Crews
being over 75 years old.
The current movement is suggesting an upper age limit of 23 or 25, to
reflect the end of that stage of a Rovers life. Given that this is an
identified need for Rovering for some people over this age, what do the
people here think about a third section for over 23/26 year olds
(Venturer/Senior Scouts, Rovers, 'older Rovers')? This was proposed by
one of the Taiwan participants at the 2001 forum.
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 06:35:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: David L Alexander <manwithblackhat@...>
>Subject: WOSM Report on Rovering
>>The attached are from a 2001 forum conducted for the World Scout Bureau in Geneva. Of particular
>interest is the filename "forum5report_e.pdf." It may provide some insight for the future of
>Rovering, and provide a springboeard for any future actions by the RSA.
>David L Alexander
>OA '69, Eagle '71, RS '05
>RSL, Bay Ridge Rover Crew, RSA