Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Re: RE:Battle of Dunbar
- Ericka Morgan wrote:
>Bob,I did a Google search on Robert Abernathy and found an article by Rhonda
> I should say Robert Abernathy was in the Battle of Dunbar and/or the Battle of Worcester, according to a book in the genealogy collection of the Library of Virginia, titled Descendants of Robert Abernathy. I understand that there is not a list, and do not mean to make an absolute claim, but I suppose we have to base our info on something.
Mcclure on Genealogy.com at www.genealogy.com/askr011702.html which I
have sent to Ericka privately and will not post on this list for
Basically there is no direct evidence that he fought at Dunbar or
Worcester and she had only secondary sources that he was in Virginia in
Rhonda Mcclure has written other articles on the Scottish Prisoners.
- Unfortunately, no McHoe, or anything close appears in the book. Many
entries concerning the ship JOHN AND SARAH though.
The only Abernathy (Abernethy) noted is:
Daughter of William Abernethy
deceased, in Old Manse of Foveran. Petty thief. Banished
at Aberdeen. Transported on
BETSY, master James Ramsay.
Landed Port of James River
Upper District 29 April 1772"
Thus is the typical entry in the book. The James River is in
Virginia, and the "Upper District" could be no further inland than
the Fall Line at Richmond.
Directory of Scots Banished to the American Plantations 1650-1775
by David Dobson
Geneological Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1983
ISBN 0-8063-1035-9, LCCN 83-81052
Sorry no more information. My guy isn't in it either.
--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, Ericka Morgan
>Abernathy while you are at it? If anyone could every circulate such
> Wow, where'd you find that book? Could you look for Robert
a list, it would be wonderful. I know that Robert Abernathy was
inthe Battle of Dunbar and the Battle of Worcester, and that he came
over in or around 1652. He was an indentured servant for several
years and then began a long history of farming in Brunswick County,
Virginia. If you see an Abernathy (or Abernethy) on the list, please
let me know!-Ericka Morgan
> Dave Fisher <stonehorse148@y...> wrote:
> There is no known ship list for the UNITY, at least on this side of
> the pond. The Saugus Iron works may have some information, or
> leads. I am not at home in VA now, but I have a book listing
> Scottish prisoners, and includes prisoners transported in JOHN &
> SARAH. I'll check it out when I get back.
> Dave (of George Gray)
> --- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Highman"
> <medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > Thank you for joining the list. My ancestor was Daniel Cone. We
> don't know
> > if his name was changed, he may have been the Daniel McHoe on the
> John and
> > Sara (I believe, the ship of prisoners from the Battle of
> Worcester). Our
> > family history is that he was taken in the Battle of Dunbar. We
> found a
> > reference that he was born in Edinburgh, but I think that was
> assumed from
> > his death certificate (Haddam CT). I appreciate what you have
> added about
> > the history of the men fighting at Dunbar. I had not heard that
> Gen Leslie
> > raised the troops from the lowlands. Do you have any more gems?
> Is there a
> > passenger manifest for the Unity?
> > Jan (Cone) Highman
> > >>>
> > >I too am a direct relative of George Gray on my mother's side
> > >(grandmother Myrtle Gray (decd.) of Georgetown, MA). I realize
> > >the early affairs of G.G. are a bit hazy (gray!?). While poking
> > >about for information, I came up on the comprehensive Cederman
> > >geneology ( http://www.cederman.com/genealogy/ ) with notations
> > >(the?) Gray family. Within it I note that a Lord Patrick Gray
> > >born in the Dundee/Perthshire area in 1538. His son, William isof
> > >noted as being in the area as Sheriff of Forfar and then Burgess
> > >Dundee 1589-1590. No dates of birth or death in given.William's
> > >son was Andrew, who also died in the area (at Pitscandly, nearwould
> > >Forfar), no date given. Andrew had one son, GEORGE. No other
> > >information is noted for George, and there are no other George
> > >listed in any near period. If you allow a standard of 25 years
> > >between generations beginning with Lord Patrick G., George G.
> > >have been born in the first quarter of the 1600s, and in his mid-progeny,
> > >at the time of the Battle of Dunbar. That George left no
> > >and is not listed as dying in Scotland. Maybe sent off in the(far
> > >UNITY? Who knows?
> > >
> > >The Grays have been claimed as a sept of the Southerland clan
> > >northeast Scotland), but the history of the Battle of Dunbar isPerthshire
> > >the highland clans did not participate, and that General Lesley
> > >raised his Covenenter Army in the lowlands - Dundee and
> > >being quite close to the north across the River Tay.insurance company American family home owner insurance
> > >
> > >So, it is not unreasonable to speculate that Cederman's George G.
> > >could have been the one in the right place at the right time.
> > >there is a paper-trail somewhere in the Forfar/Pitscandly area.
> > >
> > >Dave Fisher
> > >
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