Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] New 'Sambo' Version Stirs Old Criticism
- I think that the story is fine, but the only way the inevitable problems
could be avoided is by changing the name "Sambo." The meaning of a word is found
in its referents, and culturally, the amount of negative baggage associated
with the term far outweighs the positive. Who is the market for this product?
The idea that such a children's book would be purchased by large numbers of
black people to read to their children is almost inconceivable. This woman
probably means well, but she might as well create a book for little girls
titled "Suzy, the sweet little cunt", figuring to "re-claim" that particular
four-letter-word. Why not merely change the name to "The Adventure of Ali" or
some such neutral name. Same story, minus the offensive connotation. All the
positive benifits, none of the negative.
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- Curious Yellow
Again, this is a difficult one! :) At school,
even recently (2000 ... Wheeling Jesuit
University) ... I just could not sit still for
the Faulkner: "Nigger this and nigger that ..."�
I'd always leave the class until the discussion
or reading was over.� I felt backwards in doing
this ... yet ...
Like the Johnny Cochran "I would be remiss .."
speech I'm not personally bothered by people
saying, "Nigger," or "Sambo," or whatever they
choose to say ... but there is usually something
that gets under my ... well ... SKIN :) when
these words appear in literature.�
Why?� Is it when these words are used to tear
something up?� Is it when these words are used to
show how things were or are in a particular place
or time?� Is it when these words are casually
passed on to our children?
To me ... any word is available as a tool.� I
believe when General W. Clark publicly and on
camera used the word "... ****," this was OK.
If you use the Microsoft on line dictionary, and
type in "jap," or I assume any other pejorative,
you get an admonition ... not a definition.� I
LIKE that ... ???� I do.� But ... I don't
understand my own varied reactions: Here it is OK
here it is not.
I don't know if this is an archaic� reaction or
not ... but something in me just sometimes balks
at that point.� AND I'm not consistent with it
either.� I mean, sometimes, even written, it is
fine with me to see and yes, use whatever words
... but then ... sure it is in the context but
I'm not sure about the science ... there are
times and words which just give an unwelcome
jolt.� Your use of the word "cunt" for example,
is very strong.� Yes, yes ... as an example of
what not to do ... but the very appearance of
this word makes me uncomfortable.
To use "Sambo" now ... I don't know ... it might
actually be OK.� What did you think if you saw Al
Sharpton on Saturday night live ... parodying
stereotyped skits of yore?� I was uncomfortable
... yet ... I'm not uncomfortable when I actually
see that old stuff: "Uh ... Yas SIR, Mr. Erwin,
SIR!"� It was stupid then it is stupid now ....
How about when a Hare Krsna bigot (Oxymoron)
approached me at New Vrindabana� and hissed,
"Jiva ... do you want to know what they say about
you around here?� Do you want to know what they
"What?" I responded.
"Jiva?" he returned.� "They say ... �jiva ...
he's just another nigger."
I felt and stated that that person had the
Maybe then people should just go ahead and
publish whatever they want and sink or swim by
and with it.
In the military, and growing up, it was clear
that "nigger" was / is a word to immediately go
to blows over.
Ah ... I feel another story brewing.� Got to
write got to write got to write ... :)
I would not call a work of mine ... Sambo, or
Rastus, but you know what?� If I saw such a work
... I'd be (more contradiction ... curious
jivajiva (President Club Services)
I think that the story is fine, but the only way
the inevitable problems
could be avoided is by changing the name
"Sambo."�� The meaning of a word is found
in its referents, and culturally, the amount of
negative baggage associated
with the term far outweighs the positive.�� Who
is the market for this product?
� The idea that such a children's book would be
purchased by large numbers of
black people to read to their children is almost
inconceivable.��� This woman
probably means well, but she might as well create
a book for little girls
titled "Suzy, the sweet little cunt", figuring to
"re-claim" that particular
four-letter-word.�� Why not merely change the
name to "The Adventure of Ali" or
some such neutral name.�� Same story, minus the
offensive connotation.�� All the
positive benifits, none of the negative.
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