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  • festusdirk@web.de
    gunner, is vermont already canadian? in my rather laughable truck days ( i made my truck license on one of these
    Message 1 of 8 , Nov 1, 2010
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      gunner, is vermont already canadian?

      in my rather laughable truck days ( i made my "truck license" on one of these http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_02t_tmil-a.htm
      before driving signal versions of the following 4x4
      http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_01-5t_gl-d.htm
      http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_05t_gl_man630_rs_hf_schrfutrp-001.htm
      http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_05t_tmil_mb_1017-a.htm
      http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_02t_gl_sprFuTrp_a-a.htm
      and until today a number of 2x4 civilian trucks in the same weight ranges, and if, only with small trailers)
      so i can´t talk about modern semis with gigantic torque. and i´m a northern german, most highway slopes a day´s drive around are rather harmless.
      but i learned: "same gear uphill and downhill" and the so called "motorbremse", shifting down downhill if the brakes start feeling too weak/hot...

      Grauwolf, there´s nothing wrong about driving automatic, at least modern ones. anything that helps a driver to be more focused on traffic is a good thing.
      most truck-related europeans i know never understood why us small vehicles have been using automatic for years, while truckers insisted on things like unsynchronized fuller gears...
      do you still get volvo´s with hood or is it the same cab-over design like in europe (we have very strict length laws).

      to get a sci-fi angle out of this: our medieval-core-cities are extremely cramped, so there are reasons for regulating vehicle sizes
      (the horse´s ass vs. space shuttle: http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.asp).
      in a space surrounding airlock/vehicle bay sizes would be a limiting factor too except for "spaceship frames" that will stay at zero g and never go dirtside.
      would future colonials (the core worlds ports should have large docking facilities) rather go for the "russian extreme cold climate approach" (vehicle engines running 24/7 to keep them from freezing outdoors) or limit the size of a vehicle class for "sheltering"? not only a climatic problems: e.g. vehicles put IN a airframe travel easier than slung below, specialised vehicles that look like run-of-the-mill don´t attract more incoming fire...



      festus


      Von: "david schnyer" <gunnera4@...>
      Gesendet: 01.11.2010 01:15:17
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      i don't know where that "never downshift on a downgrade" came from, even before i started over the road in the big ones i was driving a little puddlejumper bus on a local route across southern vermont and i clearly remember a sign at the top of woodford mountain that said, in french and english "camions petite vitess". bonne chance et bon voyages mon ami.























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    • david schnyer
      vermont canadian? no thanks, they wouldn t like our gun laws very much. we don t issue or require pistol permits here, and pistols may be carried, openly or
      Message 2 of 8 , Nov 1, 2010
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        vermont canadian? no thanks, they wouldn't like our gun laws very much. we don't issue or require pistol permits here, and pistols may be carried, openly or concealed, by anyone who does not have a criminal record, convicted felons are barred from possessing any firearm. the reason for the road sign in french is that we get french canadian truck drivers passing through from quebec, and while woodford mountain is not all hat big it is a long steep down hill and a driver not familar with it can get into trouble at the sharp curve about half way down, and there's nothing but a weak fence and a 50 metre sheer drop on the outside of the curve. i don't have a problem with it though, i've driven it for years with everything from a tractor trailer to a motorcycle in all kinds of weather.
        "gunner"

        --- On Mon, 11/1/10, festusdirk@... <festusdirk@...> wrote:

        From: festusdirk@... <festusdirk@...>
        Subject: Re: [Sci-Fi_Armor] OT - Space Truckin'
        To: Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 11:17 AM

         
        gunner, is vermont already canadian?

        in my rather laughable truck days ( i made my "truck license" on one of these http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_02t_tmil-a.htm
        before driving signal versions of the following 4x4
        http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_01-5t_gl-d.htm
        http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_05t_gl_man630_rs_hf_schrfutrp-001.htm
        http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_05t_tmil_mb_1017-a.htm
        http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/bw_lkw_02t_gl_sprFuTrp_a-a.htm
        and until today a number of 2x4 civilian trucks in the same weight ranges, and if, only with small trailers)
        so i can´t talk about modern semis with gigantic torque. and i´m a northern german, most highway slopes a day´s drive around are rather harmless.
        but i learned: "same gear uphill and downhill" and the so called "motorbremse", shifting down downhill if the brakes start feeling too weak/hot...

        Grauwolf, there´s nothing wrong about driving automatic, at least modern ones. anything that helps a driver to be more focused on traffic is a good thing.
        most truck-related europeans i know never understood why us small vehicles have been using automatic for years, while truckers insisted on things like unsynchronized fuller gears...
        do you still get volvo´s with hood or is it the same cab-over design like in europe (we have very strict length laws).

        to get a sci-fi angle out of this: our medieval-core-cities are extremely cramped, so there are reasons for regulating vehicle sizes
        (the horse´s ass vs. space shuttle: http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.asp).
        in a space surrounding airlock/vehicle bay sizes would be a limiting factor too except for "spaceship frames" that will stay at zero g and never go dirtside.
        would future colonials (the core worlds ports should have large docking facilities) rather go for the "russian extreme cold climate approach" (vehicle engines running 24/7 to keep them from freezing outdoors) or limit the size of a vehicle class for "sheltering"? not only a climatic problems: e.g. vehicles put IN a airframe travel easier than slung below, specialised vehicles that look like run-of-the-mill don´t attract more incoming fire...

        festus

        Von: "david schnyer" <gunnera4@...>
        Gesendet: 01.11.2010 01:15:17
        An: Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com
        Betreff: Re: [Sci-Fi_Armor] OT - Space Truckin'
        i don't know where that "never downshift on a downgrade" came from, even before i started over the road in the big ones i was driving a little puddlejumper bus on a local route across southern vermont and i clearly remember a sign at the top of woodford mountain that said, in french and english "camions petite vitess". bonne chance et bon voyages mon ami.

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      • Grauwolf
        Greetings Gunner, Festus and All, Made it back home for a couple of days. Missed the hot Boodong, but plenty of leftovers!!! First off, I mis-spoke. My
        Message 3 of 8 , Nov 27, 2010
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          Greetings Gunner, Festus and All,

          Made it back home for a couple of days. Missed the hot Boodong, but plenty of leftovers!!!

          First off, I mis-spoke. My "Sviedy" (I named her for one of Odin's Valkyries. = "noise"? "vibration"?) Is a Volvo through and through. I was told she ran a Cummins with Volvo whatnots, but she's a purebred. That tends to create some problems with the parts department, but nothing of note as of yet. And, yeah Gunner, all of W/S's trucks are governed at 65/68. It sucks, but its better than getting stuck driving through California. Trucker speed limit there is ~ 55 ~ !!! and don't even think about trying to fudge that up to 58. Those folks are hungry for Green and just looking to bust a Rich Fat Cat Trucker.

          Festus, for a while the States had length laws too that saw a lot of Over Cabs on the road. Since they dropped that you can be hard pressed to find any hereabouts other than a few old rare workhorses. I've a couple of drivers who really liked their tighter turning radius. I never liked the idea of having to tilt the whole cab ~ With All Your Gear In It! ~ just to check the oil and whatnot. LOL

          Funny you should mention Sci-Fi Trucker stories. The last time I hit the used bookstore I stumbled over a series (???) of books called ~ SPACE TRUCKERS ~. I think that they were done by Jim Mortimore, but I'm not positive. They looked just a bit ~ TOO ~ canned for me to pick up at the time, but I think I'll give them a go if they are still there next time. What the heck. I've certainly read worse!!! LOL

          There was also a flick done some little while back called ~ SPACE TRUCKERS ~. Very Low Budget, but still not as bad as some. Certainly some good chuckles!

          Wiki - Space Truckers
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Truckers

          After hauling truckloads back and forth across these western states ranging from flower, to sugar, and BEER. (HEAVY buggers all!) To furniture, empty beer kegs, CHEX cereal, and even 9,000 lbs of Plastic Clothes Hangers! (LOL) I could not help but wonder just what kind of loads old Han and Chewy might have gotten stuck with risking their necks for on an Off Day. ??? You figure somebody somewhere is ALWAYS going to need ~~ something ~~ hauled half way across the galaxy. I doubt that they all would be something to build a rep as a class ‘A' hotshot smuggling starship jockey on. What do You All think??? Can ya think of some loads that probably WOULDN'T be on their top ten list of references??? LOL






          Keep It FUN!
          Dan G

          Those who refuse to learn from History -
          -- will always screw over those of us who do!!!

          SCI-FI ARMOR
          --- Because the Multiverse is NOT a friendly place.
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        • festusdirk@web.de
          ... tribbles?
          Message 4 of 8 , Nov 27, 2010
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            > Can ya think of some loads that probably WOULDN'T be on their top ten list of references???

            tribbles?
          • Grauwolf
            Greetings Festus and All, ... LOL Yeah, Tribbles could be FUN but at least you can quadruple your profits by the end of the run! I think that much the same can
            Message 5 of 8 , Nov 28, 2010
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              Greetings Festus and All,

              > tribbles? <

              LOL Yeah, Tribbles could be FUN but at least you can quadruple your profits by the end of the run! I think that much the same can be said for those cute little Mogwai who's not so cute offshoots are about as much fun as a hold full of Furbies. I think I would take a run hauling a load of Crites before I gave any of those a go. Especially those demonically devised Furbies! Evil. Just plain EVIL!

              I did some hunting about and was able to compile a bit of a list of some of the Millennium Falcons not so well known cargo runs. It was a tough go since the Falcon's logs aren't known for their exactitude. But you would be amazed at what you can learn hanging out in fringe world Space Trucker watering holes!

              For example there was the run for the Ring-A-Ding Pan-Galactic Circus & Traveling Spaceways Road Show transporting "Imperious" the galaxies largest and oldest living trained Bantha. Ring-A-Ding claimed he was even older than the Emperor himself! ~ Unfortunately, Imperious finally succumbed to his advanced years halfway through the flight (some claim he spotted a sprat (=space rat for you landlubbers.) and his old heart just couldn't take the excitement.) Ring-A-Ding flat out refused to pay the full freight on a dead Bantha. ~ Never one to give in easily when there are profits at stake, Han held a Bantha Bar-B-Que right there in the tarmac and nearly recovered the difference in lost transport charges. ~ Nearly. Unfortunately, the fines levied by the local Food & Health authorities for selling Off Planet food stuffs without a permit decimated every micro-credit taken in.

              Not so profitable too was the run to Frig-Chirp III with a load of fermented Modok mollusc milk cheese. Already know and relished by most Pan-Dimensional coinsures for its overly aromatic qualities, the Ferengi purchasing agent neglected to inform Han that his purchase price of the cheese did not include the transport stasis chambers in the bargain. Nor that Modok cheese begins to turn rancid within hours of its removal from same thus exponentially increasing its aromatic qualities by the minute. ("Why don't people ever tell me these things?!?!") Fortunately, the avian-sauropods of Frig-Chirp III relish the cheese for that very reason. Not as a consumable, but to smear over their sparsely feathered bodies as a display of wealth and sexual potency. ~ Though still a profitable venture, unfortunately most of the profits were consumed by the much need purchases of vast quantities industrial strength super-duper extra heavy duty Fabreeze air freshener. To this day the Falcon still retains a slight hint of `something not quite right' when the ventilation system heating unit is running at max output.

              Always a softy at heart (especially if there happens to a good looking female hominoid student teacher involved) there was also the fifth grade student outing to the ruins of Tee-Dinkum XVI. Again not always the best informed (most likely Han was paying more attention to the teacher than to what she was actually saying.) Han volunteered the Falcon to shuttle the class to the popular archeological site. A bit closer attention on his part might have saved him and poor Chewy days of tracking down lost Kowakian monkey-lizard students.

              Then there was Han's attempt at getting a jump on his competition by supplying Ra-Blat II with the latest and much in-demand hot ticket kiddy toy for their Gift-A-Gift Day annual celebrations. Again, a little closer attention to details might have saved a bit of his and Chewy's sanity. The reason the Suzy Woopsy dolls were in such high demand was the design flaw that required them to always be transported at sub-light speeds. The power surge of a jump engine activation tends to overly stimulate the droid-doll's circuits resulting in a hold full of badly space sick little dolls all crying and wailing for their mommies. Not very many Ra-Blat kiddies wanted to deal with space sick dolls no matter how badly they were in demand. ~ Additionally, the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Droids is still hounding Solo for his supposed inhumane treatment of the little mecha.

              Finally, there was his attempt at trying to smuggle several hundred crates of Fizzy-Super-Wizz-Bang soda pop (the noisiest drink in the galaxy) to the Monastery of Perpetual Silence on Hush-Aby I. ~ Needless to say, he was not welcomed with open arms.

              I am more than certain that there are a number of other cargo runs that Han and Chewy would just as soon be forgotten, and I will relate them as I uncover them. You sure do got to admit though, even The Greats can have their . . . . Off Days!!!


              Keep It FUN!
              Dan G

              Those who refuse to learn from History -
              -- will always screw over those of us who do!!!

              SCI-FI ARMOR
              --- Because the Multiverse is NOT a friendly place.
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sci-Fi_Armor/
              "Never Give Up! -- Never Surrender!"
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