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2002 Saskatchewan Bird List

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  • Harv Lane
    Howdy folks, It s been a long and interesting summer with entirely too much unusual weather. Right now it s cool and rainy in Saskatoon but there is a
    Message 1 of 16 , Aug 18, 2002
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      Howdy folks,
       
      It's been a long and interesting summer with entirely too much unusual weather.  Right now it's cool and rainy in Saskatoon but there is a suggestion that the weather will improve as the week progresses.  I've been holding off on sending out our list until we got something new but that hasn't happened this summer.  I'm hoping that a quick look at the list will jog someone's memory and we'll get some new birds for the list.  We are still standing at 289 species.  I can't believe we didn't get to 300 by the end of June.  There didn't seem to be any rarities seen in June.  I wonder now if we'll get enough of them in fall to get to 300 for the year.
       
      Obviously, Surrey is just too small an area for make this competition close.  Would it be closer if we tried to compete again England as a whole?  I think the areas involved would be much closer in size and I expect the competition would be a little more intense ... especially after May.  Perhaps Ken can tell us if that would work.
       
      For now, just take a quick look at the list and see if I'm missing anything you've seen this year.
       
      Cheers,
      Harv
       

      Saskatchewan 2002 Bird List

      1. Common Loon (Great Northern Diver)
      2. Pied-billed Grebe
      3. Red-necked Grebe
      4. Horned Grebe (Slavonian Grebe)
      5. Eared Grebe (Black-necked Grebe)
      6. Western Grebe
      7. Clark’s Grebe
      8. American White Pelican
      9. Double-crested Cormorant
      10. Great Blue Heron
      11. Great Egret
      12. Black-crowned Night-Heron
      13. American Bittern
      14. White-faced Ibis
      15. Tundra Swan
      16. Greater White-fronted Goose
      17. Snow Goose
      18. Ross’s Goose
      19. Canada Goose
      20. Wood Duck
      21. Eurasian Widgeon
      22. American Wigeon
      23. Gadwall
      24. Green-winged Teal
      25. Mallard
      26. American Black Duck
      27. Northern Pintail
      28. Garganey
      29. Blue-winged Teal
      30. Cinnamon Teal
      31. Northern Shoveler
      32. Canvasback
      33. Redhead
      34. Ring-necked Duck
      35. Greater Scaup
      36. Lesser Scaup
      37. White-winged Scoter
      38. Common Goldeneye (Goldeneye)
      39. Bufflehead
      40. Hooded Merganser
      41. Red-breasted Merganser
      42. Common Merganser (Goosander)
      43. Ruddy Duck
      44. Turkey Vulture
      45. Osprey
      46. Bald Eagle
      47. Northern Harrier
      48. Sharp-shinned Hawk
      49. Cooper’s Hawk
      50. Northern Goshawk
      51. Broad-winged Hawk
      52. Swainson’s Hawk
      53. Red-tailed Hawk
      54. Ferruginous Hawk
      55. Rough-legged Hawk (Rough-legged Buzzard)
      56. Golden Eagle
      57. American Kestrel
      58. Merlin
      59. Gyrfalcon
      60. Prairie Falcon
      61. Peregrine Falcon
      62. Spruce Grouse
      63. Willow Ptarmigan (Red Grouse)
      64. Ruffed Grouse
      65. Greater Sage-Grouse
      66. Sharp-tailed Grouse
      67. Gray Partridge (Grey Partridge)
      68. Ring-necked Pheasant (Pheasant)
      69. Sandhill Crane
      70. Whooping Crane
      71. Yellow Rail
      72. Virginia Rail
      73. Sora
      74. American Coot
      75. Black-necked Stilt
      76. American Avocet
      77. American Golden-Plover
      78. Black-bellied Plover (Grey Plover)
      79. Semipalmated Plover
      80. Killdeer
      81. Piping Plover
      82. Common Snipe
      83. Short-billed Dowitcher
      84. Long-billed Dowitcher
      85. Hudsonian Godwit
      86. Marbled Godwit
      87. Whimbrel
      88. Long-billed Curlew
      89. Upland Sandpiper
      90. Greater Yellowlegs
      91. Lesser Yellowlegs
      92. Solitary Sandpiper
      93. Spotted Sandpiper
      94. Willet
      95. Ruddy Turnstone
      96. Red Knot
      97. Sanderling
      98. Semipalmated Sandpiper
      99. Least Sandpiper
      100. White-rumped Sandpiper
      101. Baird’s Sandpiper
      102. Pectoral Sandpiper
      103. Dunlin
      104. Stilt Sandpiper
      105. Buff-breasted Sandpiper
      106. Wilson’s Phalarope
      107. Red-necked Phalarope
      108. Ring-billed Gull
      109. California Gull
      110. Glaucous Gull
      111. Iceland Gull
      112. Herring Gull
      113. Bonaparte’s Gull
      114. Franklin’s Gull
      115. Caspian Tern
      116. Common Tern
      117. Forster’s Tern
      118. Black Tern
      119. Rock Dove
      120. Eurasian Collared-Dove (Collared Dove)
      121. Mourning Dove
      122. Black-billed Cuckoo
      123. Great Horned Owl
      124. Snowy Owl
      125. Barred Owl
      126. Great Gray Owl
      127. Northern Hawk Owl
      128. Burrowing Owl
      129. Boreal Owl
      130. Northern Saw-whet Owl
      131. Long-eared Owl
      132. Short-eared Owl
      133. Common Nighthawk
      134. Chimney Swift
      135. Ruby-throated Hummingbird
      136. Rufous Hummingbird
      137. Belted Kingfisher
      138. Red-headed Woodpecker
      139. Red-bellied Woodpecker
      140. Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
      141. Red-naped Sapsucker
      142. Downy Woodpecker
      143. Hairy Woodpecker
      144. Three-toed Woodpecker
      145. Black-backed Woodpecker
      146. Northern Flicker
      147. Pileated Woodpecker
      148. Olive-sided Flycatcher
      149. Western Wood-Pewee
      150. Eastern Wood-Pewee
      151. Yellow-bellied Flycatcher
      152. Alder Flycatcher
      153. Willow Flycatcher
      154. Least Flycatcher
      155. Dusky Flycatcher
      156. Eastern Phoebe
      157. Say’s Phoebe
      158. Great Crested Flycatcher
      159. Western Kingbird
      160. Eastern Kingbird
      161. Horned Lark (Shore Lark)
      162. Purple Martin
      163. Tree Swallow
      164. Violet-green Swallow
      165. Northern Rough-winged Swallow
      166. Bank Swallow (Sand Martin)
      167. Cliff Swallow
      168. Barn Swallow
      169. American Pipit
      170. Sprague’s Pipit
      171. Golden-crowned Kinglet
      172. Ruby-crowned Kinglet
      173. Bohemian Waxwing
      174. Cedar Waxwing
      175. Rock Wren
      176. House Wren
      177. Sedge Wren
      178. Marsh Wren
      179. Gray Catbird
      180. Northern Mockingbird
      181. Sage Thrasher
      182. Brown Thrasher
      183. Eastern Bluebird
      184. Mountain Bluebird
      185. Townsend’s Solitaire
      186. Veery
      187. Gray-cheeked Thrush
      188. Swainson’s Thrush
      189. Hermit Thrush
      190. American Robin
      191. Varied Thrush
      192. Black-capped Chickadee
      193. Boreal Chickadee
      194. Red-breasted Nuthatch
      195. White-breasted Nuthatch
      196. Brown Creeper
      197. Loggerhead Shrike
      198. Northern Shrike (Great Grey Shrike)
      199. Gray Jay
      200. Blue Jay
      201. Black-billed Magpie
      202. American Crow
      203. Common Raven (Raven)
      204. European Starling (Starling)
      205. Yellow-throated Vireo
      206. Blue-headed Vireo
      207. Warbling Vireo
      208. Philadelphia Vireo
      209. Red-eyed Vireo
      210. Tennessee Warbler
      211. Orange-crowned Warbler
      212. Nashville Warbler
      213. Yellow Warbler
      214. Black-throated Blue Warbler
      215. Chestnut-sided Warbler
      216. Magnolia Warbler
      217. Cape May Warbler
      218. Yellow-rumped Warbler
      219. Black-throated Green Warbler
      220. Blackburnian Warbler
      221. Pine Warbler
      222. Palm Warbler
      223. Bay-breasted Warbler
      224. Blackpoll Warbler
      225. Black-and-White Warbler
      226. American Redstart
      227. Ovenbird
      228. Northern Waterthrush
      229. Connecticut Warbler
      230. Mourning Warbler
      231. MacGillivray’s Warbler
      232. Common Yellowthroat
      233. Wilson’s Warbler
      234. Canada Warbler
      235. Yellow-breasted Chat
      236. Western Tanager
      237. Eastern Towhee
      238. Spotted Towhee
      239. American Tree Sparrow
      240. Chipping Sparrow
      241. Clay-coloured Sparrow
      242. Brewer’s Sparrow
      243. Versper Sparrow
      244. Lark Sparrow
      245. Lark Bunting
      246. Savannah Sparrow
      247. Nelson’s Sharp-tailed Sparrow
      248. Le Conte’s Sparrow
      249. Baird’s Sparrow
      250. Grasshopper Sparrow
      251. Fox Sparrow
      252. Song Sparrow
      253. Lincoln’s Sparrow
      254. Swamp Sparrow
      255. White-crowned Sparrow
      256. White-throated Sparrow
      257. Harris’ Sparrow
      258. Dark-eyed Junco
      259. McCown’s Longspur
      260. Lapland Longspur (Lapland Bunting)
      261. Smith’s Longspur
      262. Chestnut-collared Longspur
      263. Snow Bunting
      264. Rose-breasted Grosbeak
      265. Black-headed Grosbeak
      266. Lazuli Bunting
      267. Indigo Bunting
      268. Bobolink
      269. Red-winged Blackbird
      270. Western Meadowlark
      271. Yellow-headed Blackbird
      272. Rusty Blackbird
      273. Brewer’s Blackbird
      274. Common Grackle
      275. Brown-headed Cowbird
      276. Baltimore Oriole
      277. Bullock’s Oriole
      278. Orchard Oriole
      279. Pine Grosbeak
      280. Purple Finch
      281. House Finch
      282. Red Crossbill (Common Crossbill)
      283. White-winged Crossbill (Two-barred Crossbill)
      284. Common Redpoll
      285. Hoary Redpoll
      286. Pine Siskin
      287. American Goldfinch
      288. Evening Grosbeak
      289. House Sparrow
    • Brenda Schmidt
      The Winter Wren (along grid from Denare Beach to Sturgeon-Weir) can be added. Brenda Schmidt Creighton, SK
      Message 2 of 16 , Aug 18, 2002
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        The Winter Wren (along grid from Denare Beach to Sturgeon-Weir) can be
        added.

        Brenda Schmidt
        Creighton, SK
      • Kenneth Noble
        Dear Harv Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds that Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a whole, or a competition with the whole English
        Message 3 of 16 , Aug 18, 2002
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          Dear Harv
          Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds that
          Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a whole,
          or a competition with the whole English birding scene
          (where some twitchers reckon to see 300+ personally
          per year--which is pretty frantic when you consider
          that my UK list is still only around the 275 mark
          after some 30 years of birding!).
          Another possibility would be to regard this year's
          total as 'par' (for the golfers among you) and see
          whether we can break par in 2003?
          I'll post this to Surreybirders, too, and see if I get
          any suggestions.
          Hope you all have some good fall rarities.
          Ken

          --- Harv Lane <hdlane@...> wrote: > Howdy folks,
          >
          > It's been a long and interesting summer with
          > entirely too much unusual weather. Right now it's
          > cool and rainy in Saskatoon but there is a
          > suggestion that the weather will improve as the week
          > progresses. I've been holding off on sending out
          > our list until we got something new but that hasn't
          > happened this summer. I'm hoping that a quick look
          > at the list will jog someone's memory and we'll get
          > some new birds for the list. We are still standing
          > at 289 species. I can't believe we didn't get to
          > 300 by the end of June. There didn't seem to be any
          > rarities seen in June. I wonder now if we'll get
          > enough of them in fall to get to 300 for the year.
          >
          > Obviously, Surrey is just too small an area for make
          > this competition close. Would it be closer if we
          > tried to compete again England as a whole? I think
          > the areas involved would be much closer in size and
          > I expect the competition would be a little more
          > intense ... especially after May. Perhaps Ken can
          > tell us if that would work.
          >
          > For now, just take a quick look at the list and see
          > if I'm missing anything you've seen this year.
          >
          > Cheers,
          > Harv
          >
          > Saskatchewan 2002 Bird List
          >
          > 1.. Common Loon (Great Northern Diver)
          > 2.. Pied-billed Grebe
          > 3.. Red-necked Grebe
          > 4.. Horned Grebe (Slavonian Grebe)
          > 5.. Eared Grebe (Black-necked Grebe)
          > 6.. Western Grebe
          > 7.. Clark's Grebe
          > 8.. American White Pelican
          > 9.. Double-crested Cormorant
          > 10.. Great Blue Heron
          > 11.. Great Egret
          > 12.. Black-crowned Night-Heron
          > 13.. American Bittern
          > 14.. White-faced Ibis
          > 15.. Tundra Swan
          > 16.. Greater White-fronted Goose
          > 17.. Snow Goose
          > 18.. Ross's Goose
          > 19.. Canada Goose
          > 20.. Wood Duck
          > 21.. Eurasian Widgeon
          > 22.. American Wigeon
          > 23.. Gadwall
          > 24.. Green-winged Teal
          > 25.. Mallard
          > 26.. American Black Duck
          > 27.. Northern Pintail
          > 28.. Garganey
          > 29.. Blue-winged Teal
          > 30.. Cinnamon Teal
          > 31.. Northern Shoveler
          > 32.. Canvasback
          > 33.. Redhead
          > 34.. Ring-necked Duck
          > 35.. Greater Scaup
          > 36.. Lesser Scaup
          > 37.. White-winged Scoter
          > 38.. Common Goldeneye (Goldeneye)
          > 39.. Bufflehead
          > 40.. Hooded Merganser
          > 41.. Red-breasted Merganser
          > 42.. Common Merganser (Goosander)
          > 43.. Ruddy Duck
          > 44.. Turkey Vulture
          > 45.. Osprey
          > 46.. Bald Eagle
          > 47.. Northern Harrier
          > 48.. Sharp-shinned Hawk
          > 49.. Cooper's Hawk
          > 50.. Northern Goshawk
          > 51.. Broad-winged Hawk
          > 52.. Swainson's Hawk
          > 53.. Red-tailed Hawk
          > 54.. Ferruginous Hawk
          > 55.. Rough-legged Hawk (Rough-legged Buzzard)
          > 56.. Golden Eagle
          > 57.. American Kestrel
          > 58.. Merlin
          > 59.. Gyrfalcon
          > 60.. Prairie Falcon
          > 61.. Peregrine Falcon
          > 62.. Spruce Grouse
          > 63.. Willow Ptarmigan (Red Grouse)
          > 64.. Ruffed Grouse
          > 65.. Greater Sage-Grouse
          > 66.. Sharp-tailed Grouse
          > 67.. Gray Partridge (Grey Partridge)
          > 68.. Ring-necked Pheasant (Pheasant)
          > 69.. Sandhill Crane
          > 70.. Whooping Crane
          > 71.. Yellow Rail
          > 72.. Virginia Rail
          > 73.. Sora
          > 74.. American Coot
          > 75.. Black-necked Stilt
          > 76.. American Avocet
          > 77.. American Golden-Plover
          > 78.. Black-bellied Plover (Grey Plover)
          > 79.. Semipalmated Plover
          > 80.. Killdeer
          > 81.. Piping Plover
          > 82.. Common Snipe
          > 83.. Short-billed Dowitcher
          > 84.. Long-billed Dowitcher
          > 85.. Hudsonian Godwit
          > 86.. Marbled Godwit
          > 87.. Whimbrel
          > 88.. Long-billed Curlew
          > 89.. Upland Sandpiper
          > 90.. Greater Yellowlegs
          > 91.. Lesser Yellowlegs
          > 92.. Solitary Sandpiper
          > 93.. Spotted Sandpiper
          > 94.. Willet
          > 95.. Ruddy Turnstone
          > 96.. Red Knot
          > 97.. Sanderling
          > 98.. Semipalmated Sandpiper
          > 99.. Least Sandpiper
          > 100.. White-rumped Sandpiper
          > 101.. Baird's Sandpiper
          > 102.. Pectoral Sandpiper
          > 103.. Dunlin
          > 104.. Stilt Sandpiper
          > 105.. Buff-breasted Sandpiper
          > 106.. Wilson's Phalarope
          > 107.. Red-necked Phalarope
          > 108.. Ring-billed Gull
          > 109.. California Gull
          > 110.. Glaucous Gull
          > 111.. Iceland Gull
          > 112.. Herring Gull
          > 113.. Bonaparte's Gull
          > 114.. Franklin's Gull
          > 115.. Caspian Tern
          > 116.. Common Tern
          > 117.. Forster's Tern
          > 118.. Black Tern
          > 119.. Rock Dove
          > 120.. Eurasian Collared-Dove (Collared Dove)
          > 121.. Mourning Dove
          > 122.. Black-billed Cuckoo
          > 123.. Great Horned Owl
          > 124.. Snowy Owl
          > 125.. Barred Owl
          > 126.. Great Gray Owl
          > 127.. Northern Hawk Owl
          > 128.. Burrowing Owl
          > 129.. Boreal Owl
          > 130.. Northern Saw-whet Owl
          > 131.. Long-eared Owl
          > 132.. Short-eared Owl
          > 133.. Common Nighthawk
          > 134.. Chimney Swift
          > 135.. Ruby-throated Hummingbird
          > 136.. Rufous Hummingbird
          > 137.. Belted Kingfisher
          > 138.. Red-headed Woodpecker
          > 139.. Red-bellied Woodpecker
          > 140.. Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
          > 141.. Red-naped Sapsucker
          > 142.. Downy Woodpecker
          > 143.. Hairy Woodpecker
          > 144.. Three-toed Woodpecker
          > 145.. Black-backed Woodpecker
          > 146.. Northern Flicker
          > 147.. Pileated Woodpecker
          > 148.. Olive-sided Flycatcher
          > 149.. Western Wood-Pewee
          > 150.. Eastern Wood-Pewee
          > 151.. Yellow-bellied Flycatcher
          > 152.. Alder Flycatcher
          > 153.. Willow Flycatcher
          > 154.. Least Flycatcher
          > 155.. Dusky Flycatcher
          > 156.. Eastern Phoebe
          > 157.. Say's Phoebe
          > 158.. Great Crested Flycatcher
          > 159.. Western Kingbird
          > 160.. Eastern Kingbird
          > 161.. Horned Lark (Shore Lark)
          > 162.. Purple Martin
          > 163.. Tree Swallow
          > 164.. Violet-green Swallow
          > 165.. Northern Rough-winged Swallow
          > 166.. Bank Swallow (Sand Martin)
          > 167.. Cliff Swallow
          > 168.. Barn Swallow
          > 169.. American Pipit
          > 170.. Sprague's Pipit
          > 171.. Golden-crowned Kinglet
          > 172.. Ruby-crowned Kinglet
          > 173.. Bohemian Waxwing
          > 174.. Cedar Waxwing
          > 175.. Rock Wren
          > 176.. House Wren
          > 177.. Sedge Wren
          > 178.. Marsh Wren
          > 179.. Gray Catbird
          > 180.. Northern Mockingbird
          > 181.. Sage Thrasher
          > 182.. Brown Thrasher
          > 183.. Eastern Bluebird
          > 184.. Mountain Bluebird
          > 185.. Townsend's Solitaire
          > 186.. Veery
          > 187.. Gray-cheeked Thrush
          > 188.. Swainson's Thrush
          > 189.. Hermit Thrush
          > 190.. American Robin
          > 191.. Varied Thrush
          > 192.. Black-capped Chickadee
          > 193.. Boreal Chickadee
          > 194.. Red-breasted Nuthatch
          > 195.. White-breasted Nuthatch
          > 196.. Brown Creeper
          > 197.. Loggerhead Shrike
          > 198.. Northern Shrike (Great Grey Shrike)
          > 199.. Gray Jay
          > 200.. Blue Jay
          > 201.. Black-billed Magpie
          > 202.. American Crow
          > 203.. Common Raven (Raven)
          > 204.. European Starling (Starling)
          > 205.. Yellow-throated Vireo
          > 206.. Blue-headed Vireo
          > 207.. Warbling Vireo
          > 208.. Philadelphia Vireo
          > 209.. Red-eyed Vireo
          > 210.. Tennessee Warbler
          > 211.. Orange-crowned Warbler
          > 212.. Nashville Warbler
          > 213.. Yellow Warbler
          > 214.. Black-throated Blue Warbler
          > 215.. Chestnut-sided Warbler
          > 216.. Magnolia Warbler
          > 217.. Cape May Warbler
          > 218.. Yellow-rumped Warbler
          > 219.. Black-throated Green Warbler
          > 220.. Blackburnian Warbler
          > 221.. Pine Warbler
          > 222.. Palm Warbler
          > 223.. Bay-breasted Warbler
          > 224.. Blackpoll Warbler
          > 225.. Black-and-White Warbler
          > 226.. American Redstart
          > 227.. Ovenbird
          > 228.. Northern Waterthrush
          > 229.. Connecticut Warbler
          > 230.. Mourning Warbler
          > 231.. MacGillivray's Warbler
          > 232.. Common Yellowthroat
          > 233.. Wilson's Warbler
          > 234.. Canada Warbler
          > 235.. Yellow-breasted Chat
          > 236.. Western Tanager
          > 237.. Eastern Towhee
          > 238.. Spotted Towhee
          > 239.. American Tree Sparrow
          > 240.. Chipping Sparrow
          > 241.. Clay-coloured Sparrow
          > 242.. Brewer's Sparrow
          > 243.. Versper Sparrow
          > 244.. Lark Sparrow
          > 245.. Lark Bunting
          > 246.. Savannah Sparrow
          > 247.. Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow
          > 248.. Le Conte's Sparrow
          > 249.. Baird's Sparrow
          > 250.. Grasshopper Sparrow
          > 251.. Fox Sparrow
          > 252.. Song Sparrow
          > 253.. Lincoln's Sparrow
          > 254.. Swamp Sparrow
          > 255.. White-crowned Sparrow
          > 256.. White-throated Sparrow
          > 257.. Harris' Sparrow
          > 258.. Dark-eyed Junco
          > 259.. McCown's Longspur
          > 260.. Lapland Longspur (Lapland Bunting)
          > 261.. Smith's Longspur
          > 262.. Chestnut-collared Longspur
          > 263.. Snow Bunting
          > 264.. Rose-breasted Grosbeak
          > 265.. Black-headed Grosbeak
          > 266.. Lazuli Bunting
          > 267.. Indigo Bunting
          > 268.. Bobolink
          > 269.. Red-winged Blackbird
          > 270.. Western Meadowlark
          > 271.. Yellow-headed Blackbird
          > 272.. Rusty Blackbird
          > 273.. Brewer's Blackbird
          > 274.. Common Grackle
          > 275.. Brown-headed Cowbird
          > 276.. Baltimore Oriole
          > 277.. Bullock's Oriole
          > 278.. Orchard Oriole
          > 279.. Pine Grosbeak
          > 280.. Purple Finch
          > 281.. House Finch
          > 282.. Red Crossbill (Common Crossbill)
          > 283.. White-winged Crossbill (Two-barred
          > Crossbill)
          > 284.. Common Redpoll
          > 285.. Hoary Redpoll
          > 286.. Pine Siskin
          > 287.. American Goldfinch
          > 288.. Evening Grosbeak
          > 289.. House Sparrow
          >
          >

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        • micknsharon
          Ken and Harv, one way to even things up a bit would be to compete against mainland England, excluding off shore islands where a lot of rarities get seen and
          Message 4 of 16 , Aug 19, 2002
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            Ken and Harv, one way to even things up a bit would be to compete
            against mainland England, excluding off shore islands where a lot of
            rarities get seen and not count pelagic sightings. Sorry to exclude
            Wales and Scotland but I think that would give the British team a
            huge advantage. The only problem would be co-ordinating things on
            Ken's side unless he is in regular contact with all the county
            recorders. Saskatchewan's biggest disadvantage would be the number of
            players on each side.

            Incidentally Harv on your list you could add the name Hen Harrier in
            brackets next to Northern Harrier.

            Cheers
            Mick
            Saskatoon

            --- In Saskbirds@y..., Kenneth Noble <kennethnoble@y...> wrote:
            > Dear Harv
            > Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds that
            > Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a whole,
            > or a competition with the whole English birding scene
            > (where some twitchers reckon to see 300+ personally
            > per year--which is pretty frantic
          • Harv Lane
            Hi Mick & Ken, This is sort of the idea that I had. I just wasn t sure how to define the area. Do you think that this area would provide a list in the range
            Message 5 of 16 , Aug 19, 2002
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              Hi Mick & Ken,

              This is sort of the idea that I had. I just wasn't sure how to define the
              area. Do you think that this area would provide a list in the range of 300
              or so species, Ken?

              Cheers,
              Harv

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "micknsharon" <micknsharon@...>
              To: <Saskbirds@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
              Subject: [Saskbirds] Re: 2002 Saskatchewan Bird List


              >
              > Ken and Harv, one way to even things up a bit would be to compete
              > against mainland England, excluding off shore islands where a lot of
              > rarities get seen and not count pelagic sightings. Sorry to exclude
              > Wales and Scotland but I think that would give the British team a
              > huge advantage. The only problem would be co-ordinating things on
              > Ken's side unless he is in regular contact with all the county
              > recorders. Saskatchewan's biggest disadvantage would be the number of
              > players on each side.
              >
              > Incidentally Harv on your list you could add the name Hen Harrier in
              > brackets next to Northern Harrier.
              >
              > Cheers
              > Mick
              > Saskatoon
              >
              > --- In Saskbirds@y..., Kenneth Noble <kennethnoble@y...> wrote:
              > > Dear Harv
              > > Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds that
              > > Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a whole,
              > > or a competition with the whole English birding scene
              > > (where some twitchers reckon to see 300+ personally
              > > per year--which is pretty frantic
              >
              >
              >
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            • Kenneth Noble
              Dear Mick and Harv, You are challenging me here! a) I m not at all sure how many species are seen annually in England (as opposed to the UK)-- in fact, I ve
              Message 6 of 16 , Aug 19, 2002
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                Dear Mick and Harv,
                You are challenging me here! a) I'm not at all sure
                how many species are seen annually in England (as
                opposed to the UK)-- in fact, I've never heard of
                anyone keeping a separate English list, though I
                personally keep a Scottish list!
                b) I'm not in touch with enough people on the English
                birding scene to be able to provide a realistic list.

                I'll forward your messages to Surreybirders and see
                what they suggest, if anything!!

                (The UK list stands at c560 species, with several
                additions this year alone. I believe that the best
                year-list is around the 365 mark [i.e. one per day!].
                From memory--always fallible--the top listers in the
                county of Kent [our coastal neighbours] have seen
                around about that figure for their life-time Kent
                lists. I suppose one possibility would be for
                Saskbirders to challenge Kosnet Yahoogroup to a year
                listing challenge--though I'd be sorry to lose the
                contact between Surreybirders and Saskbirders.)

                Any more ideas out there?
                Ken
                cc surreybirders


                --- Harv Lane <hdlane@...> wrote: > Hi Mick & Ken,
                >
                > This is sort of the idea that I had. I just wasn't
                > sure how to define the
                > area. Do you think that this area would provide a
                > list in the range of 300
                > or so species, Ken?
                >
                > Cheers,
                > Harv
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "micknsharon" <micknsharon@...>
                > To: <Saskbirds@yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
                > Subject: [Saskbirds] Re: 2002 Saskatchewan Bird List
                >
                >
                > >
                > > Ken and Harv, one way to even things up a bit
                > would be to compete
                > > against mainland England, excluding off shore
                > islands where a lot of
                > > rarities get seen and not count pelagic sightings.
                > Sorry to exclude
                > > Wales and Scotland but I think that would give the
                > British team a
                > > huge advantage. The only problem would be
                > co-ordinating things on
                > > Ken's side unless he is in regular contact with
                > all the county
                > > recorders. Saskatchewan's biggest disadvantage
                > would be the number of
                > > players on each side.
                > >
                > > Incidentally Harv on your list you could add the
                > name Hen Harrier in
                > > brackets next to Northern Harrier.
                > >
                > > Cheers
                > > Mick
                > > Saskatoon
                > >
                > > --- In Saskbirds@y..., Kenneth Noble
                > <kennethnoble@y...> wrote:
                > > > Dear Harv
                > > > Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds
                > that
                > > > Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a
                > whole,
                > > > or a competition with the whole English birding
                > scene
                > > > (where some twitchers reckon to see 300+
                > personally
                > > > per year--which is pretty frantic
                > >
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              • micknsharon
                Ken, Harv and any other interested parties, there are several counties in England where individual bird watchers have ticked over 300 birds this year already,
                Message 7 of 16 , Aug 19, 2002
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                  Ken, Harv and any other interested parties, there are several
                  counties in England where individual bird watchers have ticked over
                  300 birds this year already, 365 in Yorkshire is at the top.
                  Surfbirds.com has a section especially for listers and if you look at

                  http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/surfbirds/display.cgi?
                  list=list10&lowVal=0&highVal=49

                  You will see the top individuals and thier numbers for the year. If a
                  bunch of these decided to add their records to Surrey's competition
                  list Sk would be in for a good hiding. Unless of course we can get
                  more people watching in Sk and passing on the info, for example from
                  wardens in National or Provincial parks. Whatever route we take lets
                  not lose the link between Surrey and Saskatchewan.....at least that
                  way there will be some people in Britain who have heard of
                  Saskatchewan!!!

                  Cheers
                  Mick

                  --- In Saskbirds@y..., Kenneth Noble <kennethnoble@y...> wrote:
                  > Dear Mick and Harv,
                  > You are challenging me here! a) I'm not at all sure
                  > how many species are seen annually in England (as
                  > opposed to the UK)-- in fact, I've never heard of
                  > anyone keeping a separate English list, though I
                  > personally keep a Scottish list!
                  > b) I'm not in touch with enough people on the English
                  > birding scene to be able to provide a realistic list.
                  >
                  > I'll forward your messages to Surreybirders and see
                  > what they suggest, if anything!!
                  >
                  > (The UK list stands at c560 species, with several
                  > additions this year alone. I believe that the best
                  > year-list is around the 365 mark [i.e. one per day!].
                  > From memory--always fallible--the top listers in the
                  > county of Kent [our coastal neighbours] have seen
                  > around about that figure for their life-time Kent
                  > lists. I suppose one possibility would be for
                  > Saskbirders to challenge Kosnet Yahoogroup to a year
                  > listing challenge--though I'd be sorry to lose the
                  > contact between Surreybirders and Saskbirders.)
                  >
                  > Any more ideas out there?
                  > Ken
                  > cc surreybirders
                  >
                  >
                  > --- Harv Lane <hdlane@s...> wrote: > Hi Mick & Ken,
                  > >
                  > > This is sort of the idea that I had. I just wasn't
                  > > sure how to define the area.
                  Do you think that this area would provide a
                  > > list in the range of 300
                  > > or so species, Ken?
                  > >
                  > > Cheers,
                  > > Harv
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: "micknsharon" <micknsharon@s...>
                  > > To: <Saskbirds@y...>
                  > > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:09 PM
                  > > Subject: [Saskbirds] Re: 2002 Saskatchewan Bird List
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > >
                  > > > Ken and Harv, one way to even things up a bit
                  > > would be to compete
                  > > > against mainland England, excluding off shore
                  > > islands where a lot of
                  > > > rarities get seen and not count pelagic sightings.
                  > > Sorry to exclude
                  > > > Wales and Scotland but I think that would give the
                  > > British team a
                  > > > huge advantage. The only problem would be
                  > > co-ordinating things on
                  > > > Ken's side unless he is in regular contact with
                  > > all the county
                  > > > recorders. Saskatchewan's biggest disadvantage
                  > > would be the number of
                  > > > players on each side.
                  > > >
                  > > > Incidentally Harv on your list you could add the
                  > > name Hen Harrier in
                  > > > brackets next to Northern Harrier.
                  > > >
                  > > > Cheers
                  > > > Mick
                  > > > Saskatoon
                  > > >
                  > > > --- In Saskbirds@y..., Kenneth Noble
                  > > <kennethnoble@y...> wrote:
                  > > > > Dear Harv
                  > > > > Interesting suggestion! But do you mean birds
                  > > that
                  > > > > Surreybirders see in England (or the UK?) as a
                  > > whole,
                  > > > > or a competition with the whole English birding
                  > > scene
                  > > > > (where some twitchers reckon to see 300+
                  > > personally
                  > > > > per year--which is pretty frantic
                  > > >
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