>1. All thoughts are right (righteous, not correct) 2. Being right validates
>one's being (their existence) 3. In the pursuit of being humans are evidence
>4. Developing the self-awareness to recognize the above results in far more
>choices/opportunities that previously thought to exist.
>1. Thoughts about rape? Gunning down your fellow students? Napthalming
>children? Righteous? You're kidding me.
>They are...rightous has nothing to do with morals. They are simply
>assertions. I stated right up front that righteous does not mean correct (or
>moral). It simply means what we think is right (and when we admit we are
>wrong we were right to assert that we are wrong)
>Perhaps Americans spell 'Righteous' differently to us Britons? In the
>dictionary it gives 'righteous' as: "Characterized by or proceeding from
>accepted standards of morality or justice." I suggest that if you used your
>*existentialist righteousness* as a defence in an American or European
>court you would rapidly find yourself staring at four walls, leaving you
>many years to study the real ramifications of the acceptability of your
>interpretation of *existentialist righteousness,* as it is viewed (and
>usually rejected,) by the rest of the population
Catweasel, your point is right on the money. Many existential terms,
and contexts, are not listed in a common dictionary. (in fact there
are existential dictionaries, slang dictionaries, etc, that list
special words or definitions not in common usage).
But even so, my dictionary says it means: characterized by
uprightness which is the context I'm referring to. It also lists:
justifiable (also the context we're discussing).
Existentially, selfish and selfless are synonyms because all actions
are asserted (because they are righteous in the regard that we assert
them to be so...). I may give you a birthday card but I did it
because I chose to...I'm satisfying a desire I had (the reason
doesn't matter, I'm simply fullfulling a desire...*my*, selfish,
You're example about what would happen in court just goes as evidence
for my point...that you, and I, seek evidence to make our points.
And, obviously I hope, a court's ruling doesn't change what might be
reality...only a specific context of human reality -> rules of law.
>2. Who decides what 'being right is?' Politicians? Priests? :-)
>I'm not talking about moral-right...I'm talking about existential-right.
>There's no issue of moral right and wrong here.
>You may have to think about what I'm saying...if you stay stuck in morality
>vs. philosophy we can't go far.
>I first thought of what you're saying about fifty years ago. There is no
>such thing as *existentialist right.*
And folks thought of it about 5000 years before you...buddhists (as
far as I know...).
>Perhaps if you go and live alone on
>some desert island you will be able to do as you please. If however you
>choose to live in a community then you must respect the rights of the
>majority as expressed through the constitution.
I absolutely do not have to do that all. I must not respect anyone's
rights and there's certainly no law that says I can't express that
I choose to respect the law because I choose to live in an
environment where I have the most freedom and safety...but I
certainly do not have to. If I wish to break the law, that's what I
choose. (and of course I'm also choosing the possibility of jail, so
I don't...it's the basis of morality...survival skills.)
>"In the pursuit of being humans are evidence gathering machines."
>Can you hear the clank of their mechanical legs as they file into the
>classroom to study being humans?
I'm sorry you missed that I was using a metaphor.
>Humans care about evidence because the nature of existance is assertion and
>if you're going to make an assertion you beleive you better have evidence.
>As such, humans gather evidence constantly in the pursuit of existance.
>The nature of existence has nothing at all to do with assertion. Existence
>simply means a presence rather than an absence.
How does something be a presence without an asserting themselves to
be a presence!. They are synonomous.
"In the best relationships sex is the booby prize."
"I'm gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I
get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!"