Fwd: Re: [Sartre] Re: Nietzsche and "Yes"
- Ok, then... consumerism is a bit of a misnomer.
"Consumer" actually means "buyer" or at least
"acquirer". Consuming that which is acquired, though
seems to be encouraged. That's one reason that products
have planned obsolescence built in.
Certainly consuming goods that have little other
function, such as tobacco, would not be the best
example of consumerism, because the goods are of
a limited utility by their very nature.
I suggest that, because consumer culture encourages
waste, patterns of consumption that produce waste
are the better examples of consumerism; if you throw
out your Pepsi because it has passed its freshness
date (remember when they tried to get us to do that?)
you'll buy more Pepsi. The point of "consuming" it is
neither to drink it nor save it, but simply to buy it.
Moreover, consumerism is exemplified not by a tendency to
use things up (although that helps) or to accumulate things
(which is an implied goal, but counterintuitively counter-
consumerism) but by the tendency to acquire things at a rate
that exceeds their normal utility attrition rate;
TO REPLACE WHAT WE WASTE (and to waste in order to replace).
"Give me convenience or give me death!"
-the Dead Kennedys
---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 23:28:48 -0400like to have stuff
>From: "Leon McQuaid" <leonpmcquaid@...>
>Subject: Re: [Sartre] Re: Nietzsche and "Yes"
>What are you trying to say here?
>>From: "Christopher Bobo" <cbobo@...>
>>Subject: Re: [Sartre] Re: Nietzsche and "Yes"
>>Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:06:05 -0800
>>We'll, I, for one, am glad that we got that straight. I
>>myself. I wonder what Sartre would say about that. Doyou think Sartre
>>had stuff, or did he consume his stuff, or at least someof his stuff? He
>>certainly liked to consume tobacco, coffee, and, I hear,wine and
>>amphetamines. Did that make him a consumer if not aconsumerist? Maybe he
>>was a consumer of some things, like bread, and aconsumerist of other
>>things, like books and mental stimulants, for he was avoracious reader
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Josh@...
>> To: Sartre@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:56 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: [Sartre] Re: Nietzsche and "Yes"
>> I must concur.
>> Consumerism is not about possessing.
>> It's about consuming.
>> ---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:39:46 -0000
>> >From: "loconito442 <loconito442@...>"
>> >Subject: [Sartre] Re: Nietzsche and "Yes"
>> >To: Sartre@yahoogroups.com
>> >Hi, I have a point to make on this subject. I think
>> when you
>> >say "yes" to consumerism you are saying "yes" to
>> consumerism, and not
>> >to having stuff.