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Re: [Sartre] Sartre vs. Pascal

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  • Marc Girod
    ... qph Pascal is not recognized as an existentialist and I believe that qph he cannot even be seen as a precursor to existentialism. He surely died too
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 2, 2002
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      >>>>> "qph" == quasi philosopher <quasiphilosopher@...> writes:

      qph> Pascal is not recognized as an existentialist and I believe that
      qph> he cannot even be seen as a precursor to existentialism.

      He surely died too early to have the slighest chance to be an
      existentialist.
      Now, denying a possible relationship is an other issue, although such
      a relationship can be drawn as well to his arch-rival, Descartes.

      qph> As a Jansenist (Jansenism was a strict Catholic movement/sect)
      qph> Pascal believed strongly in predestination.

      In fact, _so_ strongly as to make you free, since there couldn't be
      any connection between one's behaviour and one's salvation.

      Besides, there is a religious existentialism -- if not Kiekergaard, at
      least Gabriel Marcel.

      qph> So while his famous "wager" can be seen as existentialist in type
      qph> it really isn't.

      The wager is a troublesome issue: Pascal never published it, and
      probably knew about the inherent contradiction in it: if it were true,
      God would be tricked.

      And of course, it is not mathematically rigorous, based on rates of
      infinite values before Leibnitz's proper work on infinitesimals or
      Newton's on limits.

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    • Marc Girod
      ... MGi if not Kiekergaard, at least Gabriel Marcel. ^ Kierkegaard Existentialism is the radical rejection of Plato s postulate that ideas exist in an
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 3, 2002
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        >>>>> "MGi" == Marc Girod <girod@...> writes:

        MGi> if not Kiekergaard, at least Gabriel Marcel.
        ^
        Kierkegaard

        Existentialism is the radical rejection of Plato's postulate that
        ideas "exist" in an abstract sense, and thus "preexist" anything else.

        For Pascal, God is surely not an "idea", at least not _an_ idea.

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