Re: [SanghaOnline] Re: mindfulness of breathing
- Dear Venerable Pesala,
thank you for the links preferable for discussion and your comment.
There are obviously points we agree and some we are not (probably yet).
For the latter I will deliberate your advise and possibly come back on the forums you mentioned such as the
http://forum.sirimangalo.org/phpBB3/index.php or Abhidhamma Vipassana http://www.abhidhamma.org/forums/
I got some good ideas benefitial for further communication with my friends and like to thank you again for the care.
with Metta Dieter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bhikkhu Pesala
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: [SanghaOnline] Re: mindfulness of breathing
--- In SanghaOnline@yahoogroups.com, Dieter MÃ¶ller <moellerdieter@...>
D: I remember that the list does not favor discussions
BP: The format of this list, and its lack of support for Unicode Pali
makes any discussion difficult, apart from the policy of the list. I prefer the
format of other forums such as the Sangha Forum
or Abhidhamma Vipassana http://www.abhidhamma.org/forums/
D: Would you agree with me that the Mahasi meditation method means in
principle shifting the focus of attention from the nostrils to the abdomen
(whose rising and falling is in line with in- and out breathing)?
BP: Mindfulness of the four elements is an entirely different method of
body mindfulness. There is no need to start with mindfulness of
respiration, then shift the attention to the abdomen. One starts
immediately with paying attention to the air element at the abdomen.
D: Mindfulness of breathing- in its most simple form- is the pre-condition
for the practise of Sati in respect to the 4 great references, isn't it?
It might be, but it is not a necessary pre-condition. One can establish
mindfulness of the body using any of the 14 methods of body
contemplation in the Satipatthana Sutta. Just because anapana comes
first does not mean it is must be used by all. The Buddha was teaching
many monks at the same time, some of whom were practising the
cemetery contemplations, or other methods of body mindfulness such as
the analysis of the four elements.
Easy and difficult are relative terms. What is easy for one may be difficult
for another. The advice is that one should select a meditation method to
suit one's temperament. I think that many may not progress as quickly as
they might due to lack of the right method or lack of the right instructions
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