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## Re: [SabreSailboat] halyard length

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• Hmmm. Air draft is 55 , minus 4 of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15 to run aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home. Bill B
Message 1 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013

Hmmm. Air draft is 55', minus 4' of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15' to run aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home.
Bill B

On Mar 22, 2013 1:17 PM, "ssfein" <ssfein@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including distance to the cockpit
winch
thanks
ss

• I found a calculator at sailboatowners.com that worked pretty well. I confirmed against actual boat dimensions and added 5 for good measure (I am much better
Message 2 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013

I found a calculator at sailboatowners.com that worked pretty well.  I confirmed against actual boat dimensions and added 5' for good measure (I am much better at shortening rope than streching it).  For a MkI 30 I used 110' to get to the cockpit.

John
Imagine
#64

On Mar 22, 2013 1:56 PM, "Bill Blalock" <mookiesurfs@...> wrote:

Hmmm. Air draft is 55', minus 4' of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15' to run aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home.
Bill B

On Mar 22, 2013 1:17 PM, "ssfein" <ssfein@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including distance to the cockpit
winch
thanks
ss

• Mine s at home in the garage. I can measure it for you tomorrow. Len Bertaux Walkabout S38 MKII
Message 3 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
Mine's at home in the garage. I can measure it for you tomorrow.

Len Bertaux

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "ssfein" <ssfein@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including distance to the cockpit
> winch
> thanks
> ss
>
• John You must have upgraded to the tall rig. Len Bertaux
Message 4 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
John

You must have upgraded to the tall rig.

Len Bertaux

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, John Kelleher <johnmkelleher@...> wrote:
>
> I found a calculator at sailboatowners.com that worked pretty well. I
> confirmed against actual boat dimensions and added 5' for good measure (I
> am much better at shortening rope than streching it). For a MkI 30 I used
> 110' to get to the cockpit.
>
> John
> Imagine
> #64
> On Mar 22, 2013 1:56 PM, "Bill Blalock" <mookiesurfs@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hmmm. Air draft is 55', minus 4' of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15' to run
> > aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home.
> > Bill B
> > On Mar 22, 2013 1:17 PM, "ssfein" <ssfein@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including
> >> distance to the cockpit
> >> winch
> >> thanks
> >> ss
> >>
> >>
> >
>
• Was there really a tall rig for the 38-I? I didn t see anything about that in the manual, although it gives detailed specs for both the full keel and
Message 5 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
Was there really a "tall rig" for the 38-I? I didn't see anything about that in the manual, although it gives detailed specs for both the full keel and centerboard versions.

I am getting ready to replace all the running rigging on my 38-I this spring, so I would be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL if you would publish your findings. Otherwise I'll guess I'll be dragging the old lines to West Marine!

Mike
S/V TREASURE
• Mike My poor attempt at a joke regarding the S34.....I ll measure my main halyard, which is led to the cockpit, and the jib/spin halyards which are cleated at
Message 6 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
Mike

My poor attempt at a joke regarding the S34.....I'll measure my main halyard, which is led to the cockpit, and the jib/spin halyards which are cleated at the base of the mast. I believe I bought 115' jib halyards (V-100) but will double check.

Len

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "mhrutstein" <mhrutstein@...> wrote:
>
> Was there really a "tall rig" for the 38-I? I didn't see anything about that in the manual, although it gives detailed specs for both the full keel and centerboard versions.
>
> I am getting ready to replace all the running rigging on my 38-I this spring, so I would be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL if you would publish your findings. Otherwise I'll guess I'll be dragging the old lines to West Marine!
>
> Mike
> S/V TREASURE
>
• That calculator at Sailboatowners.com is VERY sketchy. I would not recommend using it. I tried it out on my mainsheet a while back, and found that it
Message 7 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
That calculator at Sailboatowners.com is VERY sketchy. I would not recommend using it. I tried it out on my mainsheet a while back, and found that it recommended an 80' length of 1/2" line for my 34-I. The actual line I used was 50' of 3/8. Huge difference! I don't think it is even good as a rough idea, let alone something to buy off of. I think it uses some sort of calculation algorithm, without much (if any) boat specific data.

Oh, but SBO in general? -- GREAT folks! Just don't use the calculator.

Harry
Analysis
'79 S34-I #063
Mill Creek, Annapolis

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, John Kelleher <johnmkelleher@...> wrote:
>
> I found a calculator at sailboatowners.com that worked pretty well. I
> confirmed against actual boat dimensions and added 5' for good measure (I
> am much better at shortening rope than streching it). For a MkI 30 I used
> 110' to get to the cockpit.
>
> John
> Imagine
> #64
> On Mar 22, 2013 1:56 PM, "Bill Blalock" <mookiesurfs@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hmmm. Air draft is 55', minus 4' of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15' to run
> > aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home.
> > Bill B
> > On Mar 22, 2013 1:17 PM, "ssfein" <ssfein@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including
> >> distance to the cockpit
> >> winch
> >> thanks
> >> ss
> >>
> >>
> >
>
• Huh, seems that SBO has even better customer support than I thought! When I found that error, I sent them an email (that s how I was able to quote the info
Message 8 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
Huh, seems that SBO has even better customer support than I thought! When I found that error, I sent them an email (that's how I was able to quote the info below). They said "we'll work on that." Well, I just went to look, and found:
* They say "we can't quote mainsheets, please call"
* Their halyard number was spot on.

OK, I'll admit. The calculator is pretty good. I still suggest caution...

Harry

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "sailor11767" <sailor11767@...> wrote:
>
> That calculator at Sailboatowners.com is VERY sketchy. I would not recommend using it. I tried it out on my mainsheet a while back, and found that it recommended an 80' length of 1/2" line for my 34-I. The actual line I used was 50' of 3/8. Huge difference! I don't think it is even good as a rough idea, let alone something to buy off of. I think it uses some sort of calculation algorithm, without much (if any) boat specific data.
>
> Oh, but SBO in general? -- GREAT folks! Just don't use the calculator.
>
> Harry
> Analysis
> '79 S34-I #063
> Mill Creek, Annapolis
>
> --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, John Kelleher <johnmkelleher@> wrote:
> >
> > I found a calculator at sailboatowners.com that worked pretty well. I
> > confirmed against actual boat dimensions and added 5' for good measure (I
> > am much better at shortening rope than streching it). For a MkI 30 I used
> > 110' to get to the cockpit.
> >
> > John
> > Imagine
> > #64
> > On Mar 22, 2013 1:56 PM, "Bill Blalock" <mookiesurfs@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm. Air draft is 55', minus 4' of freeboard, x 2, plus maybe 15' to run
> > > aft. Ish. I might have better numbers at home.
> > > Bill B
> > > On Mar 22, 2013 1:17 PM, "ssfein" <ssfein@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone know the length of the main halyard for a 38-1 including
> > >> distance to the cockpit
> > >> winch
> > >> thanks
> > >> ss
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
• I guess I haven been here long enough to get the inside Sabre jokes! Mike
Message 9 of 14 , Mar 22, 2013
I guess I haven' been here long enough to get the inside Sabre jokes!

Mike
• Suggest you get a quote for your halyards from Rigging Only...good service & prices! Steve Wind Rush II S38-I
Message 10 of 14 , Mar 23, 2013
Suggest you get a quote for your halyards from Rigging Only...good service & prices!

Steve
Wind Rush II
S38-I

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "mhrutstein" <mhrutstein@...> wrote:
>
> Was there really a "tall rig" for the 38-I? I didn't see anything about that in the manual, although it gives detailed specs for both the full keel and centerboard versions.
>
> I am getting ready to replace all the running rigging on my 38-I this spring, so I would be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL if you would publish your findings. Otherwise I'll guess I'll be dragging the old lines to West Marine!
>
> Mike
> S/V TREASURE
>
• The reason for my question is that I have been having trouble with bagging on the lower part of the luff of the main. My sailmaker has DX it as a stretchy
Message 11 of 14 , Mar 23, 2013
The reason for my question is that I have been having trouble with bagging on the lower part of the luff of the main.
My sailmaker has DX it as a stretchy halyard. So I am looking to replace it with Stay Set x or given that there has been negative comment on Stay Set maybe go to VPC or Samsons XLS
SS
• My manual has 127 for the 38mkII spinaker halyard led aft. I have XLS halyards now, It s too stretchy. I am going to splice in amsteel blue. I would suggest
Message 12 of 14 , Mar 23, 2013
My manual has 127' for the 38mkII spinaker halyard led aft.

I have XLS halyards now, It's too stretchy. I am going to splice in amsteel blue.
I would suggest XLS Extra T or MLX.

Defender's sale is on now.

Joe

--- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, Steven Fein <ssfein@...> wrote:
>
> The reason for my question is that I have been having trouble with bagging on the lower part of the luff of the main.
> My sailmaker has DX it as a stretchy halyard. So I am looking to replace it with Stay Set x or given that there has been negative comment on Stay Set maybe go to VPC or Samsons XLS
> SS
>
• Just measured the halyards: main halyard led to the cabin top winch is 115 , the jib halyards are not led to the cockpit and they are 106 . Len Bertaux
Message 13 of 14 , Mar 24, 2013
Just measured the halyards: main halyard led to the cabin top winch is 115', the jib halyards are not led to the cockpit and they are 106'.

Len Bertaux