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  • pbfein
    There is a big difference between the old Volvo MDs and the early 2000 series. Do plenty of research in this area.
    Message 1 of 17 , Feb 19, 2013
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      There is a big difference between the old Volvo MDs and the early 2000 series. Do plenty of research in this area.

      --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, Peter Tollini <pete@...> wrote:
      >
      > My familiarity with Volvo diesels is minimal. I know that Maine lobster
      > boat builders love them and that owners of older Sabres can't kill them.
      > Also that parts are expensive.
      > I really don't see the need for a turbo on a sailboat. I know they make
      > diesels more efficient and cleaner, but it's one more piece of complexity
      > (spinning at 80K RPM) to go wrong.
      > Pete
      >
      >
      > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:46 PM, navip11 <navip11@...> wrote:
      >
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Pete,
      > >
      > > I always appreciate your posts.
      > > I especially enjoyed your most recent comparison of a s30 to a spirited
      > > horse... Right on.
      > > I took a ride down to our current boat today to check on her, even in the
      > > snow and wrapped, i was proud of her beauty. And mind you she is senior to
      > > most in the yard...
      > >
      > > I wasnt aware of the deck concerns on the tartans and i will keep that in
      > > mind.
      > >
      > > Also of importance the 372 we are considering has a 2003 volvo turbo. I
      > > know nothing about volvo, any thoughts?
      > >
      > > I do think overall if we pull the trigger on anything it will be the best
      > > equipped in the best shape, regardless of pedigree.
      > > Cheers
      > >
      > > Aj
      > >
      > > --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, Peter Tollini wrote:
      > > >
      > > > The Tartan sails differently than the Sabre. If you want to knock off big
      > > > mile days with little fuss or effort, the S&S heritage works. If you like
      > > > a sparkling feel the Sabre is a better choice. I've covered the same trip
      > > > in a T37 and an S36. Both enjoyable, but the Tartan was like pointing a
      > > > Greyhound bus down the interstate and letting it roll. The Sabre was
      > > > definitely faster and more fun, but you had to work for it.
      > > > One caveat - when we were looking at Tartans and Sabres, a Tartan with a
      > > > dry deck core was a rare find. Interior layouts are a matter of choice.
      > > > Pete
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM, navip11 wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > **
      > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Disclaimer: I do not wish to start any kind of boat wars with this
      > > thread
      > > > > rather I am seeking objective information :)
      > > > >
      > > > > All things being equal (boat condition), we are contemplating moving up
      > > > > from our S30. Currently our short list consists of the 362 (of
      > > course), the
      > > > > 38-2 and the Tartan 37-2. As of right now, within out budget, there is
      > > only
      > > > > one 362 in our region. There is one 38-2 and 3 Tartans.
      > > > >
      > > > > We are not racers, rather cruisers looking for a quality boat that has
      > > > > some legs but are looking for comfortable accommodations below. As a
      > > few
      > > > > times a year we try to head out for 10 day trips.
      > > > >
      > > > > The 37-2 layout (as comes through on yachtworld) seems favorable down
      > > > > below to the 38-2. Is this correct? The modern layout with the
      > > enclosed aft
      > > > > head/shower on the 362 seems amazing as does her sailing ability.
      > > > >
      > > > > Come one, come all opinions on the matter.
      > > > >
      > > > > AJ
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
    • navip11
      I just wanted to thank everyone for their insights, much appreciated!
      Message 2 of 17 , Feb 20, 2013
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        I just wanted to thank everyone for their insights, much appreciated!

        --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "navip11" <navip11@...> wrote:
        >
        > Disclaimer: I do not wish to start any kind of boat wars with this thread rather I am seeking objective information :)
        >
        > All things being equal (boat condition), we are contemplating moving up from our S30. Currently our short list consists of the 362 (of course), the 38-2 and the Tartan 37-2. As of right now, within out budget, there is only one 362 in our region. There is one 38-2 and 3 Tartans.
        >
        > We are not racers, rather cruisers looking for a quality boat that has some legs but are looking for comfortable accommodations below. As a few times a year we try to head out for 10 day trips.
        >
        > The 37-2 layout (as comes through on yachtworld) seems favorable down below to the 38-2. Is this correct? The modern layout with the enclosed aft head/shower on the 362 seems amazing as does her sailing ability.
        >
        > Come one, come all opinions on the matter.
        >
        > AJ
        >
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